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Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Creighton in 2013, others in 2014
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/b...0rZSxkf8IM

Creighton and St. Louis to join in 2014. No VCU. The Big East could possibly put its offices in NYC.

EDIT: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ng-sources

New story from Brett McMurphy confirming Butler, Xavier, Creighton as new additions for 2013.
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RE: Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
That's close to the line up I predicted a while back. I thought #14 would be a toss up between Dayton & Richmond. I thought Richmond might get in based on geography & academics and considering Dayton is so close to Xavier. That will be a good rivalry for the new league though.
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RE: Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
That'll be a strong league. Happy to see the basketball teams getting out before the **** hits the fan next season.
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(03-13-2013 11:05 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  That'll be a strong league. Happy to see the basketball teams getting out before the **** hits the fan next season.

I would have thought you'd prefer they leave the same time UL does. It would make for a better hoops schedule next year for your cards.
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RE: Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
It looks like all the Xavier fans who were wishing doom and gloom upon Dayton can stuff a sock in it while the VCU spammers may finally get lost.
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Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
I guess St. Louis gets to be an outpost in the A-10 for a year.
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RE: Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
(03-13-2013 11:19 AM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 11:05 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  That'll be a strong league. Happy to see the basketball teams getting out before the **** hits the fan next season.

I would have thought you'd prefer they leave the same time UL does. It would make for a better hoops schedule next year for your cards.

Actually, I kinda feel what he's saying here. I personally would love for everyone to have left with us. However, that didn't look likely and once it appeared they were gone I started rooting for them hardcore. With exception to UC, UConn and USF, that conference does not deserve the Big East name, MSG or anything those schools have earned. I think its ridiculous that they're even asking for a split of the exit fee money. To me, they deserve to have their entrance fees waived and that's it.

I don't wish ill will on those schools but I surely am rooting for the C7 to come out on top. Of course it doesn't hurt that they come out in droves to bash UofL every chance they get. Especially when we were the school fighting for their inclusion...I'm lookin' at you Memphis...
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(03-13-2013 11:40 AM)Lolly Popp Wrote:  It looks like all the Xavier fans who were wishing doom and gloom upon Dayton can stuff a sock in it while the VCU spammers may finally get lost.

Just curious.... who do you actually root for? I know it's not "football."
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I think that those are great moves and the Big East is and will be a great Eastern/Midwest basketball league. I wish them well.
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the Metro needs to add VCU now...... get to a solid 5-6 bid league
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(03-13-2013 12:22 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  the Metro needs to add VCU now...... get to a solid 5-6 bid league

I agree. Wichita would go nicely with Tulsa coming in too.
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I like the moves + pretty easy to jump to 14 with 2 eastern additions. VCU or Richmond, no need for both + X. THey would have to change the profile if they brought in a public school but one 1 or 2 out of 14 isn't a big deal. If you want to get complicated, bring in uconn if they can't get into the acc and try to sell the big 12 on football only invites to uconn and byu with espn's help assuming the big 12 is stuck at 10. I could even see byu in the new big east someday but they would need to jump to 16 with byu + 3 eastern school's. A more sensible move would bring in umass and vcu with umass sticking with the mac. Of course, the most likely outcome is they stick at 12 for awhile but VCU brings a big market and good hoops.
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(03-13-2013 12:28 PM)bluesox Wrote:  I like the moves + pretty easy to jump to 14 with 2 eastern additions. VCU or Richmond, no need for both + X. THey would have to change the profile if they brought in a public school but one 1 or 2 out of 14 isn't a big deal. If you want to get complicated, bring in uconn if they can't get into the acc and try to sell the big 12 on football only invites to uconn and byu with espn's help assuming the big 12 is stuck at 10. I could even see byu in the new big east someday but they would need to jump to 16 with byu + 3 eastern school's. A more sensible move would bring in umass and vcu with umass sticking with the mac. Of course, the most likely outcome is they stick at 12 for awhile but VCU brings a big market and good hoops.

Richmond isn't exactly a big market
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(03-13-2013 12:25 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 12:22 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  the Metro needs to add VCU now...... get to a solid 5-6 bid league

I agree. Wichita would go nicely with Tulsa coming in too.

THIS. I'm at the point that I think having 2 non-FB members would be a great path fwd. We're out of options to build a better football conference (sans Tulsa & USM). We'd be very wise to be the best possible basketball conference.
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RE: Big East to add Butler, Xavier, Dayton in 2013, others in 2014
It seems like a good league. I wonder how it will continue to keep its name in the spotlight from April to November, as there is the off season, and college football dominates Fall TV.
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(03-13-2013 12:25 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(03-13-2013 12:22 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  the Metro needs to add VCU now...... get to a solid 5-6 bid league

I agree. Wichita would go nicely with Tulsa coming in too.

Yep I agree completely. The league needs to be a power conference in something, and since it's not going to be football lets go for basketball. With the MVC and A10 being gutted I could see those 2 being much more interested in this idea than they would have been even a few months ago.
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When we renegotiate our tv contract in 2020, it may then be lucrative enough that we can pick off bball schools from the new BE as well.
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(03-13-2013 12:49 PM)Texas2Step Wrote:  It seems like a good league. I wonder how it will continue to keep its name in the spotlight from April to November, as there is the off season, and college football dominates Fall TV.

We were chit on all fall during FB season, so not being mentioned is an upgrade for us.
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(03-13-2013 01:02 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  We were chit on all fall during FB season, so not being mentioned is an upgrade for us.

Wait wait wait... Dayton is joining next year with Xavier???

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For a few years the new BIG EAST will be very good. After a while, however, the next generation will come to see it as largely irrelevant. Unless St. Johns does what it hasn't been able to do in 20 years (get relevant again), the Garden won't be all that "alive" in March.
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