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RE: So where do we go from here?
Northwestern fired Carmody today and Collins is the front runner. Don't see Campbell in the mix over a Big Ten job (even a bad one).
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RE: So where do we go from here?
(03-16-2013 11:04 AM)Camel2004 Wrote:  Northwestern fired Carmody today and Collins is the front runner. Don't see Campbell in the mix over a Big Ten job (even a bad one).

Do we know who else is in the running besides Collins?
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(03-16-2013 11:54 AM)toley2345 Wrote:  
(03-16-2013 11:04 AM)Camel2004 Wrote:  Northwestern fired Carmody today and Collins is the front runner. Don't see Campbell in the mix over a Big Ten job (even a bad one).

Do we know who else is in the running besides Collins?

Collins is no more in the running here than Bob Knight.
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RE: So where do we go from here?
Seth Greenberg? You have got to be kidding me.

We want the guy who passed up both of the Curry brothers??? Really.

I would take Robbie back tomorrow. You have got to be kidding me.

Anybody who is that stupid and can't see that talent has no business coaching or recruiting.

If we hire that guy someone can have my season tickets.
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RE: So where do we go from here?
(03-17-2013 07:04 PM)camelfan Wrote:  Seth Greenberg? You have got to be kidding me.

We want the guy who passed up both of the Curry brothers??? Really.

I would take Robbie back tomorrow. You have got to be kidding me.

Anybody who is that stupid and can't see that talent has no business coaching or recruiting.

If we hire that guy someone can have my season tickets.

I think they were referring to Brad Greenberg from Radford University. But if it was Seth Greenberg then you should probably check yourself and your reasoning. People miss on recruits all the time that's part of the game of recruiting. Something you can't deny is that Seth Greenberg is a 2 time ACC Coach of the Year. If you want to turn in your tickets in that situation then I'm sure we could fill them because if we had him we would sell seats.
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(03-17-2013 07:04 PM)camelfan Wrote:  Seth Greenberg? You have got to be kidding me.

We want the guy who passed up both of the Curry brothers??? Really.

I would take Robbie back tomorrow. You have got to be kidding me.

Anybody who is that stupid and can't see that talent has no business coaching or recruiting.

If we hire that guy someone can have my season tickets.

The Curry brothers is your reasoning? Greenberg isn't the only one who passed them up. Sure, he missed on those two, but every coach at every school has missed on talent. How does an Isaiah Canaan end up at Murray State? How does Mike Muscala end up at Bucknell? You can go on and on with those kind of misses. Seth Curry ended up at Liberty? You don't think Laing could've had a shot if Liberty did? He didn't sign a Curry kid either.

Laing was 113-182 as a head coach at Campbell, with a pathetic record in February/March. If ten years of that wasn't enough, I don't know what to tell you. He has a .380 winning percentage. He had ONE winning season in ten years. And you would take that over a proven winner?

Greenberg on the other hand has a 378-283 record as a head coach at three different schools. He had a winning record at South Florida and Virginia Tech. At USF he had one losing record, his first year. Stan Heath has had a winning record only two out of the six years he has been the head guy since Greenberg left. He has the best winning percentage of all time at USF. That's not an easy job, by the way.

At Virginia Tech he had only two losing seasons. That's another very difficult job.

So, who do you think is a better realistic candidate than Greenberg? He apparently has made it clear that he very much wants to coach again and is willing to go to the mid-major level. I'll gladly take a guy who has 22 years of head coaching experience at three different schools, with a lifetime winning record. It's a resume that's better than anything else to hit the Creek in basketball. Coach K isn't walking through that door.
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RE: So where do we go from here?
(03-18-2013 08:24 AM)CamelCrazie Wrote:  
(03-17-2013 07:04 PM)camelfan Wrote:  Seth Greenberg? You have got to be kidding me.

We want the guy who passed up both of the Curry brothers??? Really.

I would take Robbie back tomorrow. You have got to be kidding me.

Anybody who is that stupid and can't see that talent has no business coaching or recruiting.

If we hire that guy someone can have my season tickets.

I think they were referring to Brad Greenberg from Radford University. But if it was Seth Greenberg then you should probably check yourself and your reasoning. People miss on recruits all the time that's part of the game of recruiting. Something you can't deny is that Seth Greenberg is a 2 time ACC Coach of the Year. If you want to turn in your tickets in that situation then I'm sure we could fill them because if we had him we would sell seats.

No, I'm referring to Seth Greenberg. He's rumored to be in the mix at Longwood and wants to coach again. I think Campbell would be crazy not to try if he does want to coach again.
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RE: So where do we go from here?
Seth Greenberg, Chris Collins, and the like are all pipe dreams.

The individual who is the next head coach at CU is a #2 assistant at a mid-level BCS program (not named Duke, Carolina or NC State) or another like position (i.e. #1 assistant at a successful mid-major). If they go with a someone who has head coaching experience, it will be someone from a mid-major level that has been fired or let go.

I have a feeling, however, it will be someone who will win the press conference. The question will be can he win games. Not throwing a knock on Minter, but that is his status right now. If Minter can win games, its truly a great hire. If he doesn't, the buzz from having a former NFL guy as head coach wears off very quickly. Same thing with a basketball hire.
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(03-18-2013 09:56 AM)Statman101 Wrote:  Seth Greenberg, Chris Collins, and the like are all pipe dreams.

The individual who is the next head coach at CU is a #2 assistant at a mid-level BCS program (not named Duke, Carolina or NC State) or another like position (i.e. #1 assistant at a successful mid-major). If they go with a someone who has head coaching experience, it will be someone from a mid-major level that has been fired or let go.

I have a feeling, however, it will be someone who will win the press conference. The question will be can he win games. Not throwing a knock on Minter, but that is his status right now. If Minter can win games, its truly a great hire. If he doesn't, the buzz from having a former NFL guy as head coach wears off very quickly. Same thing with a basketball hire.

And I rest my case...

http://hoopdirt.com/blog/7ee849cb/daily-dirt-3-18-13/

http://www.vmikeydets.com/ViewArticle.db...EASON=2012
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RE: So where do we go from here?
Good find, Statman!

It certainly sounds like Allison has experience in recruiting to fit the specific mold of a University (playing at Liberty, recruiting at VMI).

Throw him in the mix with any other assistants applying from successful private mid-majors and make a decision.
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