(03-10-2013 06:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (03-10-2013 06:04 PM)Tallgrass Wrote: (03-10-2013 04:10 PM)CougarRed Wrote: Like fine mud, Tallgrass gets denser with age. Or perhaps it's intentional. Perhaps he purposefully omits facts and confuses issues as an attempt to troll.
In any event, we'll all have a good laugh when Tulsa joins the A12.
1. This year is still governed by the old BE TV contract. No one knows the details of the new TV contract. Therefore, no conclusions can be drawn about the new TV contract based on this year's selections.
2. ESPN has not finished making their A12 TV selections for 2013. For example, they have not made any ESPNU selections. The rest of the selections will be made after the NFL schedule comes out in April, but before August.
3. Last year, 16 Big East games were televised on Saturday. 6 were on ABC. 6 were on ESPNU. Only 4 on ESPN/ESPN2. The majority of our ESPN/ESPN2 appearances last year were on Thursday, Friday and Sunday. Not Saturdays.
4. In other words, the selections this year so far are not materially different than last year. So to conclude that Navy is concerned about this year's TV selections is silly. I'm sure they are focused on what the future deal looks like in addition to other issues.
5. Navy has not been quoted in the press about anything since the new ESPN deal and name change have been announced. This is the second post where Tallgrass makes assumptions and draws conclusions based on a December article about Navy. I guess his first post about that article did not draw enough reaction.
Everybody knows there is a chance Navy backs out of its Big East commitment. Ironically, adding Tulsa (another private school to go with SMU & Tulane) might just be the medicine to keep Navy aboard.
Everyone thought WAC-16 invite was just hunky dory when received....so your analogy that everything is going to be hunky dory if Tulsa gets a Nbe/A12 invite does not counter my view and, therefore, I am wrong; in fact, I consider it wasted time and energy and wasted and very expensive exit and entry fees, about $8.5M total and a measly Nbe/A12 will take years and years to recover.
Regarding the 16 Saturday telecasts of BE in 2012, how many BE 2012 telecasts were on week nites and Sundays? Just curious...
Were any of those 16 Saturday telecasts on the opponent's home field and therefore under their tv contract and not BE contract?
Tulsa had 9 regular season games telecast on Saturday. Nicholls State and UAB were not telecast. Neither am I counting the ESPN Arkansas vs Tulsa computuer Saturday telecast (which, by the way, was quite clear and I enjoyed watching very much). So little pizz ant Tulsa under the CUSA contract had 9 Saturday games whereas big bad BIg East had 16? THat sucks big time for BE. Looks like that will be repeated in 2013; TU should have lots of tv Saturday telecasts in 2013.
I think that once again Aresco is hiding the details of the ESPN contract. He did it before. Boise left to go back to MWC some time before Nbe/A12 announced tv dollars in tv contract.
You are comparing 16 nationally televised Big East ames to 9 "televised" Tulsa games. Televised where it the key here. The 16 games that the Big East had televised were national appearances on ESPN, ESPN-2, or ABC. Every one of those outlets is in 98 million homes or more.
Tulsa had one appearance that would rival that. They played a championship game on ESPN-2. All the Tulsa regular season appearances under the CUSA media deal were relegated to CBS-Sports (45 million homes) or even smaller regionals like FSN or CSS. The fact is, the 45 million home CBS-Sports network is the largest reach any CUSA carrier has. Other than the championship game, no CUSA game will be carried on any larger network than CBS-Sports. So when you compare Tulsa exposure with the exposure involved with the Big East contract, you are not comparing apples to apples.
And yes, I wouldnt be surprised if Aresco is not being totally open about contract details because they are dissappointing. That has in fact been the pattern.
I had DirecTV in Washington DC and now ATT cable here in Miami, Florida. I have watched every Tulsa game being telecast for a number of years. Anyone like me who wants to watch the B12 or CUSA has that opportunity. In DC, if I went cable, I couldn't watch either B12 or CUSA. So I ordered DirecTV and watch every college football game known to mankind. Those that don't have sports access mention by you above, my guess is that they would not watch college football anyway. For example, have you seen a tv rating with 90M audience? The tv ratings were published by Daily Oklahoman 2 years after B12 was formed and the tv ratings of Houston, RIce, TCU, and SMU were about 15% of Texas, TAMU, and Oklahoma. The key is to have a tv network accessible to those who want to watch that particular team and can then access it. Current tv ratings posted on this board by the TT fan indicate that Nbe won't be an audience of 90M. By being on tv, it enables that particular school to hold their own in recruiting wars.
Tulsa has an excellent situation with CUSA with tv, bowls, recruiting, and close enough opponents for fans to drive to. Nbe/A12 brings nothing to Tulsa that Tulsa doesn't have already. Nbe, at best, is a lateral transfer.
Eventually, UConn and Cincy will be gone when B1G expands and now Navy is having second thoughts, and TU will have paid $6M in exit fees and $2.5M in entry fees to essentially come back to where they are today. All this is a wasted time, effort, and money for nothing new gained.
Every post on this post by every poster is speculation. If we had the facts, none of us would be on this board. But, given developments since the TImes Square Banners, it is time to regoup and rethink what is the best situation for NonAQ teams. Basically, BCS has handed over old BE's provisional BCS status to all NonAQ teams and conferences to share. Basically, BCS gave up nothing new. ANd, in the meantime, they continue to expand their BCS playoff and monies and shut the NonAQs out.
It appears I made everyone very angry with the Liberty Bowl/UCF post. But everyone forgets the mentality of what BCS really is--it is not willing to allow NonAQ to participate fully as is the situation with the Olympic posts.
The Nbe is not the key to opening the doors to a more level playing field. What will be required in a united effort by all NonAQ teams and conferences playing upon the sympathies and support of the general public. The NonAQ world does not have the equivalent of the BCS tightly controlled and powerful organization.
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ESPN Nbe/A12 2013 FB Telecasts: 2 Wed; 8 Thurs; 10 Fri; 0 Sat
