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Though the rules change was immediately associated with the Broncos' home all-blues and the legendary/infamous "Smurf Turf," Boise wasn't the only program affected. Teams with all-green uniforms would have been unable to wear them anywhere but Boise, ironically*; though Oregon might have been the most prominent example, officials at Marshall were publicly unhappy about losing their "pea pod" big-game alternates.

I am glad they nixed the uniform rule, and kept the ejection rule.

A Pigskin version that would camouflage with the yard-lines perhaps?

I hate hoop jerseys.

I'm glad they nixed it too. I don't care what color Boise's field or uniforms are. They go out there, and they play damn good football year after year. I know a bunch of people don't care for the field, but some people will ***** about anything. If that's what they want to do, and it's within the rules, I don't have any issues with it.

(03-07-2013 03:36 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I'm glad they nixed it too. I don't care what color Boise's field or uniforms are. They go out there, and they play damn good football year after year. I know a bunch of people don't care for the field, but some people will ***** about anything. If that's what they want to do, and it's within the rules, I don't have any issues with it.

I don't even understand how it could be a controversy. It boggles the mind to believe that it was any real advantage that their pants and jerseys are the same color as the field. Were we really worried they were using camouflage as a tactic?

The ejection rule is going to be a disaster. It all sounds great on paper, but it's damn hard to consistently enforce in execution. There will be one week when a valuable kid from, say, Vanderbilt gets tossed for a close-call hard hit on an Alabama receiver and then an Alabama kid doesn't even draw a flag for a similar hit later in the game, and the internet will implode.

Intent is so subjective. People already flip out about dubious personal foul penalties in the NFL that impact games; ejections are going to cause mass chaos. But good, because screw the NCAA. It's time for it to die.

If you think that there is no camoflage effect, that they don't blend in and become harder to see, I find it hard to believe that you've ever seen them in all blue on the blue turf.

Hell, I like Boise State, but that uni on that field *is* more difficult to pick up if you're not used to it. Probably if you are for that matter.

It is harder to see, and who knows how long it takes you to refocus after your initial WTF reaction?

Even so, I chalk it up to home field advantage.

If there is no camoflauge effect, then let pitchers wear white gloves and sleeves and paint the outfield fence white.

(03-07-2013 05:27 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If you think that there is no camoflage effect, that they don't blend in and become harder to see, I find it hard to believe that you've ever seen them in all blue on the blue turf.

Hell, I like Boise State, but that uni on that field *is* more difficult to pick up if you're not used to it. Probably if you are for that matter.

(03-07-2013 05:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  It is harder to see, and who knows how long it takes you to refocus after your initial WTF reaction?

Even so, I chalk it up to home field advantage.

+1, The Boise situation was specifically designed to blend in with the field. I think it is mostly mental playing on a blue field.

Taking away green uniforms from all the teams that have green school colors is just stupid though.

(03-07-2013 04:56 PM)freeblazer Wrote:  

(03-07-2013 03:36 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I'm glad they nixed it too. I don't care what color Boise's field or uniforms are. They go out there, and they play damn good football year after year. I know a bunch of people don't care for the field, but some people will ***** about anything. If that's what they want to do, and it's within the rules, I don't have any issues with it.

I don't even understand how it could be a controversy. It boggles the mind to believe that it was any real advantage that their pants and jerseys are the same color as the field. Were we really worried they were using camouflage as a tactic?

The ejection rule is going to be a disaster. It all sounds great on paper, but it's damn hard to consistently enforce in execution. There will be one week when a valuable kid from, say, Vanderbilt gets tossed for a close-call hard hit on an Alabama receiver and then an Alabama kid doesn't even draw a flag for a similar hit later in the game, and the internet will implode.

Intent is so subjective. People already flip out about dubious personal foul penalties in the NFL that impact games; ejections are going to cause mass chaos. But good, because screw the NCAA. It's time for it to die.

You have a point and something like this scenario will likely happen in a game, but I still think if applied fairly it will reduce targeting in the college game.

(03-07-2013 06:23 PM)uab278 Wrote:  

(03-07-2013 05:27 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If you think that there is no camoflage effect, that they don't blend in and become harder to see, I find it hard to believe that you've ever seen them in all blue on the blue turf.

Hell, I like Boise State, but that uni on that field *is* more difficult to pick up if you're not used to it. Probably if you are for that matter.

(03-07-2013 05:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  It is harder to see, and who knows how long it takes you to refocus after your initial WTF reaction?

Even so, I chalk it up to home field advantage.

+1, The Boise situation was specifically designed to blend in with the field. I think it is mostly mental playing on a blue field.

Taking away green uniforms from all the teams that have green school colors is just stupid though.

How is green on green any different than blue on blue? You can't have it both ways.

And I have played all green teams on grass before, and I never once had an issue with any player blending in anywhere. These guys aren't looking down at an angle like we see on TV. I'm pretty certain nobody is going to lose the 300 pound monster standing 2 feet away because he blends in with the field.

(03-07-2013 05:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  It is harder to see, and who knows how long it takes you to refocus after your initial WTF reaction?

Even so, I chalk it up to home field advantage.

I've played at Boise before and trust other than being a little odd, the blue turf does nothing as far as camouflage or anything like that. How it looks on TV is completely different to how it looks on the field. Honestly after the 1st 5 minutes on the field you don’t even notice the color anymore.

This is easy. Football is played on grass. The rule should be that if a team decides to use artificial turf, the field color has to match the hue of an available approved turf grass. (Which can be measured with a spectrometer).

Besides any actual or non-existent camouflage this will prevent teams from one upping each other in a hey look at me battle with hideous fields.

(03-08-2013 09:49 AM)legalblazer Wrote:  This is easy. Football is played on grass. The rule should be that if a team decides to use artificial turf, the field color has to match the hue of an available approved turf grass. (Which can be measured with a spectrometer).

Besides any actual or non-existent camouflage this will prevent teams from one upping each other in a hey look at me battle with hideous fields.

Well that isn't a rule. And until it is, who cares? Yes, the blue field is weird. Yes, the blue on blue looks weird on tv. No, the blue on blue does not disguise players on the field from one another. Yes, the blue field has helped give Boise a national identity.

I find it so amusing that so many fans care about the color of a field so much. I couldn't care less if they played on pink turf, as long as the turf itself adhered to all regulations currently in place. If opposing players get psyched out because of this, they are not mentally tough. The field is the same as any other, minus the weird color. The game of football is still played the same way on this weird colored field.

(03-07-2013 06:12 PM)legalblazer Wrote:  If there is no camoflauge effect, then let pitchers wear white gloves and sleeves and paint the outfield fence white.

They certainly are more difficult to see in all blue on a blue field.

Why not green balls? Why not blue balls? (many already have those, HA!)

(03-08-2013 09:40 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(03-07-2013 05:53 PM)Smaug Wrote:  It is harder to see, and who knows how long it takes you to refocus after your initial WTF reaction?

Even so, I chalk it up to home field advantage.

I've played at Boise before and trust other than being a little odd, the blue turf does nothing as far as camouflage or anything like that. How it looks on TV is completely different to how it looks on the field. Honestly after the 1st 5 minutes on the field you don’t even notice the color anymore.

We have a poster with experience. I defer to GreenHornet.

Camera angles from above, as used on TV, may present a different impression of "blue on blue" that the player, looking at other players from eye-level, will not perceive. On the field view is the player against the background of stands, other players, etc. (unless the player is lying prone on the turf). Look at other people you encounter on level ground and seeing what the background is in each case will give you an answer.

If UAB should decide to use artificial turf in its OCS, I would still like to see a gold field marked off in white shaded green lines and numbers. Or alternating 5 yd segments of green and gold with gold end zones (across the "gold line")..

Teams should be able to wear what they want. It's all silly.

(03-08-2013 12:41 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Camera angles from above, as used on TV, may present a different impression of "blue on blue" that the player, looking at other players from eye-level, will not perceive. On the field view is the player against the background of stands, other players, etc. (unless the player is lying prone on the turf). Look at other people you encounter on level ground and seeing what the background is in each case will give you an answer.

If UAB should decide to use artificial turf in its OCS, I would still like to see a gold field marked off in white shaded green lines and numbers. Or alternating 5 yd segments of green and gold with gold end zones (across the "gold line")..

Yes, then it will look like we are playing on a field of piss.