BCBronco
All American
Posts: 4,627
Joined: Jan 2007
Reputation: 58
I Root For: WMU
Location: Michigan
|
Gun Ownership
Was pondering the idea of taking a gun safety class and then buying a handgun, you know, for safety in these turbulent times. Then I started thinking about access and storage.
I imagine it doesn't do me much good as a deterrent if its stored in a looked cabinet and a bad guy breaks into the house. I figured keeping it under the bed or in the night stand is risky. I suppose I could holster it while watching TV, plus that offers me the added convenience of shooting at the TV when WMU flails away in a nationally televised game. But, that seems stupid and paranoid to boot.
Seriously, how to you gun owners manage your gun if it truly is going to protect you and your family?
|
|
03-07-2013 08:49 AM |
|
DesertBronco
Banned
Posts: 34,173
Joined: Feb 2007
I Root For: 9 wins ASAP!!
Location: TenBuckTwo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Serious stuff, think it through. When I lived alone I felt differently. Now lock and key, handguns aren't loaded, the ones with clips are apart. I have my early warning system in place, alarm and dog.
More domestic accidents than thwarted break ins. Serious.
|
|
03-07-2013 09:12 AM |
|
Hiller4Hyz09
Bronco Addict
Posts: 13,363
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 174
I Root For: WMU
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-07-2013 09:12 AM)DesertBronco Wrote: Serious stuff, think it through. When I lived alone I felt differently. Now lock and key, handguns aren't loaded, the ones with clips are apart. I have my early warning system in place, alarm and dog.
More domestic accidents than thwarted break ins. Serious.
My uncle was murdered while hunting. Obviously he was holding a gun.
I know as a nation we don't trust in God as our currency spuriously claims. But it's probably safer than owning a gun in this crapshoot world. Agree with DB on those odds.
|
|
03-07-2013 11:43 AM |
|
Tommyboy
1st String
Posts: 2,231
Joined: Jan 2005
Reputation: 22
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
More children die in pools than by guns in the home.
There are many large gun safes out there and smaller hand gun safes designed for quick access. Meijer.com is having a sale on Gunvault safes which have four digit keypads or biometrics (fingerprint), both designed for quick access. Sold separately is a cable to secure it to something that will be difficult to move like a bed frame. Also available are designs that can be secured in dresser drawers and under a desk.
A simple and cheap trigger lock would be effective too, keep the bullets somewhere high and out of reach of children.
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2013 11:51 AM by Tommyboy.)
|
|
03-07-2013 11:44 AM |
|
Hiller4Hyz09
Bronco Addict
Posts: 13,363
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 174
I Root For: WMU
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
I'm not lucky with fire (almost burned down Milwood once). Fire-arms though?
|
|
03-07-2013 11:54 AM |
|
DesertBronco
Banned
Posts: 34,173
Joined: Feb 2007
I Root For: 9 wins ASAP!!
Location: TenBuckTwo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
People act like if you're holding a gun that you can't get shot. I don't grasp that logic. I taught at a school that had armed security guards, we had a kid get murdered, those guards were there to call the ambulance only. Big misnomer. Teachers with guns huh?
|
|
03-07-2013 12:23 PM |
|
broncofan1
All American
Posts: 4,339
Joined: Jan 2009
Reputation: 54
I Root For: Broncos
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-07-2013 12:23 PM)DesertBronco Wrote: People act like if you're holding a gun that you can't get shot.
Ummm...what the hell are you talking about?
|
|
03-07-2013 01:32 PM |
|
broncofan1
All American
Posts: 4,339
Joined: Jan 2009
Reputation: 54
I Root For: Broncos
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Get a handgun safe with fingerprint+code entry. I saw plenty for sale at Gander Mountain around Christmas time. The safe will have a place for the gun and another slot for any clips, so you don't have to store a loaded firearm.
Use common sense, don't get drawn into a 'gun control' debate. If you know what you are doing, and you're in control, things will be fine.
|
|
03-07-2013 01:34 PM |
|
okgc
Heisman
Posts: 7,493
Joined: Jul 2007
Reputation: 38
I Root For: WMU
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-07-2013 08:49 AM)BCBronco Wrote: Was pondering the idea of taking a gun safety class and then buying a handgun, you know, for safety in these turbulent times. Then I started thinking about access and storage.
I imagine it doesn't do me much good as a deterrent if its stored in a looked cabinet and a bad guy breaks into the house. I figured keeping it under the bed or in the night stand is risky. I suppose I could holster it while watching TV, plus that offers me the added convenience of shooting at the TV when WMU flails away in a nationally televised game. But, that seems stupid and paranoid to boot.
Seriously, how to you gun owners manage your gun if it truly is going to protect you and your family?
IMO a gun safety class is money well spent even if you don't ever buy a gun. Knowledge always is helpful.
Do you live near Battle Creek? I have heard good things about Freedom Firearms there and I understand they have their own range. If you buy a gun make time to shoot it.
fyi - Some police officers believe the best personal protection gun for a home is a pump style shotgun.
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2013 04:58 PM by okgc.)
|
|
03-07-2013 04:58 PM |
|
DesertBronco
Banned
Posts: 34,173
Joined: Feb 2007
I Root For: 9 wins ASAP!!
Location: TenBuckTwo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Sawed off, others recommend the Taurus Judge. I have the Smith n Wesson version, governor.
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2013 05:11 PM by DesertBronco.)
|
|
03-07-2013 05:10 PM |
|
chipfan
1st String
Posts: 1,660
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 33
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
What about people who have registered a gun that later turns up being used in a crime? Shouldn't that gun owner be held responsible for letting his / her gun get into the hands of a criminal? No point in insisting on background checks, etc. if people aren't responsible enough to keep track of their weapon.
|
|
03-07-2013 07:30 PM |
|
BCBronco
All American
Posts: 4,627
Joined: Jan 2007
Reputation: 58
I Root For: WMU
Location: Michigan
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Thanks everyone for your input, even more to consider than I realized. At the very least I will take a gun safety course.
|
|
03-07-2013 07:48 PM |
|
Tommyboy
1st String
Posts: 2,231
Joined: Jan 2005
Reputation: 22
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Single best way to protect your house is to have solid doors, good quality locks, and deadbolts with reinforced strike plates attached with 2.5 inch screws that will get into the wall studs and not just door framing. Then make sure you lock your doors, I want to say something like 26% of break ins the thief walked through an unlocked door.
|
|
03-07-2013 10:56 PM |
|
ColinApocalypse
Moderator
Posts: 9,976
Joined: Jul 2012
Reputation: 114
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-07-2013 10:56 PM)Tommyboy Wrote: Single best way to protect your house is to have solid doors, good quality locks, and deadbolts with reinforced strike plates attached with 2.5 inch screws that will get into the wall studs and not just door framing. Then make sure you lock your doors, I want to say something like 26% of break ins the thief walked through an unlocked door.
Gotta disagree. There's one giant factor in the safety of your property: location, location, location.
My parents' house back on the east side of the state is in a terrific area. In my entire lifetime we've never had an incident with our property or personal safety, nor have we known anybody in our area that has.
Then again, it's a very white, middle class, semi-rural area and everybody owns a gun. More food for thought...
|
|
03-07-2013 11:18 PM |
|
Dirty Ernie
Heisman
Posts: 5,956
Joined: Feb 2007
Reputation: 81
I Root For: WMU
Location: Paw Paw
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Interesting question. If it is so safe, why do they feel they need a gun for protection?
My little sub-division has lots of guns too, about half the residents are cops.
At first they were promoting the idea of yard lights, I finally convinced them it is better to let the bad guys stumble around in the dark.
Those small bedside gun safes with the fingerprint lock seem cool to me.
I don't have a firearm. I do own a hi tech bow fully capable of killing a human.
|
|
03-08-2013 07:45 AM |
|
ESSSS
All American
Posts: 2,707
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 38
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Quote:Then again, it's a very white
Uh oh......
|
|
03-08-2013 08:55 AM |
|
Tommyboy
1st String
Posts: 2,231
Joined: Jan 2005
Reputation: 22
I Root For: WMU
Location: Kalamazoo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Yard lights are so someone else can see them, burglars don't want to be seen, having a well lit yard can be a deterrent. As part of that make sure there are no large shrubs around doors/windows that could hide a person.
|
|
03-08-2013 10:18 AM |
|
DesertBronco
Banned
Posts: 34,173
Joined: Feb 2007
I Root For: 9 wins ASAP!!
Location: TenBuckTwo
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-08-2013 08:55 AM)ESSSS Wrote: Quote:Then again, it's a very white
Uh oh......
Yeah, this group......
|
|
03-08-2013 10:39 AM |
|
Dirty Ernie
Heisman
Posts: 5,956
Joined: Feb 2007
Reputation: 81
I Root For: WMU
Location: Paw Paw
|
RE: Gun Ownership
Tommy
We decided we don't want the bad guys to see in the dark. Let them stumble around.
Most of the cops in my neighborhood have the night vision stuff anyway.
Most burglers work in day hours. They come to the house and knock and try to determine if anyone is home and check out the security devices. Look out for funny looking commercial vans and trucks with companies you are not familiar with locally. Lots of burglers work from trucks or vans with magnetic fake company name plates pasted on the door.
Some carry a weed wacker or blower into your back yard and look for the sliding door. Many people, oddly, lock the front doors but not the back garage door and door between garage and house.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2013 11:07 AM by Dirty Ernie.)
|
|
03-08-2013 11:06 AM |
|
broncofan1
All American
Posts: 4,339
Joined: Jan 2009
Reputation: 54
I Root For: Broncos
Location:
|
RE: Gun Ownership
(03-07-2013 07:48 PM)BCBronco Wrote: Thanks everyone for your input, even more to consider than I realized. At the very least I will take a gun safety course.
You're doing it right.
|
|
03-08-2013 01:12 PM |
|