IVE ALSO HEARD THIS STRONG RUMOR THAN UCONN WANTS IN THE ACC DESPERATELY

If FSU can get into the SEC. Then Cincy will end up being the 16th and final program. FSU is the national brand. While Cincy would bring the markets.(not saying that Cincy isn't a solid brand)

(03-06-2013 08:43 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  IVE ALSO HEARD THIS STRONG RUMOR THAN UCONN WANTS IN THE ACC DESPERATELY

UConn would be a nice fit in another 10 years for the B1G once the 3 billion dollars of state investment kicks in.

The thing with the B1G is they move slow. In another 20 years the conference dynamics can completely shift. Conferences run in cycles and in the 90s the SEC was down and now they're up.

(03-06-2013 07:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If the SEC moves to just 16 F.S.U. is out.

If the SEC moves to 18 they have a chance.

If the SEC moves to 20 they are in.

So, F.S.U. has an in to the Big 12.

They have a shot at the Big 10 (just not their fan bases choice).

They are on the bubble for an extended SEC (18 or more).

That's why this guy is sending up smoke signals. He wants to know where they can land before they land there so he looks like a leader instead of clueless.

If you have to send up smoke signals, then you look clueless instead of looking like a leader.

Having a rambling discussion with a writer from a fansite and tossing out something like "It would be great to be in the SEC" is an unprofessional-looking way to indicate your school's interest. It would be sad for FSU if that's the way they're carrying out their business. I'm pretty sure that TAMU indicated its interest in the SEC in back-channel conversations with Slive (and maybe some SEC presidents), and not by just casually mentioning it to some Aggie fansite.

+1

First the head of the Florida State BOT and now this. Unprofessional to say the very least.

(03-06-2013 04:51 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 04:35 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  FSU has been trying to get into the SEC since the 1950s. The SEC has turned them down almost as many times as the ACC turned down WVU.

Could have sworn that I read that FSU had its choice between the SEC and the ACC in 90/91 and Bowden thought the ACC was an easier path to a title so the Noles went to the ACC.

I believe FSU did have its choice between the SEC & the ACC back in '90/91, but Bowden and the FSU admin weren't too pleased that the SEC went to FSU after getting turned down by Texas and Texas A&M and didn't really seem that enthusiastic at the prospect of adding FSU. Plus, the ACC really seemed to want FSU and the ACC at the time looked like a much easier path to the title as well. The SEC's original expansion plan back in '90/91 called for Arkansas, Texas, and Texas A&M, btw. Anyway, FSU chose to turn the SEC down, so the SEC decided to take a chance on the University of South Carolina, a UGA OOC rival who was an indy, and wanted a conference home. And the rest as we say is history. :)

(03-06-2013 09:06 PM)PhiladelphiaVT Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 07:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:36 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If the SEC moves to just 16 F.S.U. is out.

If the SEC moves to 18 they have a chance.

If the SEC moves to 20 they are in.

So, F.S.U. has an in to the Big 12.

They have a shot at the Big 10 (just not their fan bases choice).

They are on the bubble for an extended SEC (18 or more).

That's why this guy is sending up smoke signals. He wants to know where they can land before they land there so he looks like a leader instead of clueless.

If you have to send up smoke signals, then you look clueless instead of looking like a leader.

Having a rambling discussion with a writer from a fansite and tossing out something like "It would be great to be in the SEC" is an unprofessional-looking way to indicate your school's interest. It would be sad for FSU if that's the way they're carrying out their business. I'm pretty sure that TAMU indicated its interest in the SEC in back-channel conversations with Slive (and maybe some SEC presidents), and not by just casually mentioning it to some Aggie fansite.

+1

First the head of the Florida State BOT and now this. Unprofessional to say the very least.

You do know that if you actually want to add to Wedge's reputation that you use the little green plus sign on the bottom left set of icons?

JRSec, considering all the talk I've heard out of Auburn awhile back about wanting in the SEC East and what not, I'm surprised that Auburn hasn't been leading the charge for increasing the number of conference games for the SEC. Why is that?

(03-06-2013 09:22 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  JRSec, considering all the talk I've heard out of Auburn awhile back about wanting in the SEC East and what not, I'm surprised that Auburn hasn't been leading the charge for increasing the number of conference games for the SEC. Why is that?

Stupidity I suppose! Actually I think it's because of the other chaos that has settled over the Plains like a London fog. I think their priorities have all been internal. I don't think in the end we will have any choice but to play a 10 game conference schedule with two OOC games against other upper tier teams. Add to that the fact that Jay Jacobs has been out of his league as an AD and I think you have a pretty good indication of the total lack of focus.

Under his leadership we have suffered consistent declines in a once strong baseball program, a nationally dominant swimming and diving program for both men and women, women's basketball, track and field, and most recently the lack of infrastructure for football that was not initially evident when Tubberville left. Men's basketball, is, well, men's basketball. I'm hoping for a change of AD at the end of the year, but we'll see.

But hey, it's a great time to be a Dawg. Sent a child there too! Your basketball team has matured as much as any in the conference this year and seems to have finally turned the corner. And I think you have great reason to have high hopes for the Fall. Bama will be immature in the O Line, Florida still hasn't impressed offensively, and Cocky will be having to revamp its offense a touch. Do you play A&M this year?

I've got a hypothetical for WVU fans. If the ACC offered your school an invitation to join for the 2013 season onward, assuming of course there was no holdup with the GoR and there wouldn't be any other conference movement whatsoever for the next 5-10 years, would you guys want to stay in the Big 12?

(03-06-2013 09:51 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  I've got a hypothetical for WVU fans. If the ACC offered your school an invitation to join for the 2013 season onward, assuming of course there was no holdup with the GoR and there wouldn't be any other conference movement whatsoever for the next 5-10 years, would you guys want to stay in the Big 12?

Hell no

(03-06-2013 09:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 09:51 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  I've got a hypothetical for WVU fans. If the ACC offered your school an invitation to join for the 2013 season onward, assuming of course there was no holdup with the GoR and there wouldn't be any other conference movement whatsoever for the next 5-10 years, would you guys want to stay in the Big 12?

Hell no

When did you become a WVU fan, Pony?

(03-06-2013 10:54 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 09:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 09:51 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  I've got a hypothetical for WVU fans. If the ACC offered your school an invitation to join for the 2013 season onward, assuming of course there was no holdup with the GoR and there wouldn't be any other conference movement whatsoever for the next 5-10 years, would you guys want to stay in the Big 12?

Hell no

When did you become a WVU fan, Pony?

I am a big 12 fan except when Tech is involved. I also have some concepts of reality

(03-06-2013 06:12 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Like I said. woulkd FSU like to play UT and OU or Ohio State and Michigan every year? Yes.

Would they like to play Texas Tech every year?

Probably not.

Yeah, playing in front 60K screaming Tech fans suck. A&M and their fans know all to well the numerous beatings we put on A&M in Lubbock.( 95,97,99,01,03,05,07)

(03-06-2013 11:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I am a big 12 fan except when Tech is involved.

Yeah losing 16 straight times to Tech and the fact that we overtake your stadium when we play you, will do that to you.

Kliff and the 20K or so Tech fans that will invade Ford Stadium can't wait to kick off the 2013 season in Dallas. ESPN moved the game to Friday Aug 30th.

(03-06-2013 04:30 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/colleges/fsu/football...es-program

FSU AD Randy Spetman:

Rumors have persisted for more than a year that FSU could bolt from the ACC, and those discussions only gained steam when the school was one of just two conference members to vote against raising the exit fee last fall. The other school, Maryland, has already agreed to leave the conference and join the Big Ten.

The rumblings have quieted a bit -- both nationally and at Florida State -- but Spetman said the wheels continue to turn.

"It's not done," he said. "I watch it every day, reading something about it every day, trying to get a sense and calling my counterparts and seeing where they're really at."

Unless you bring in a revenue for them so that they don't reduce their conference distribution to themselves, they aren't going to bring you in," Spetman said. "That's what I don't think people evaluate as much. It would be great to be in the SEC with our radius of schools and the way our fans travel and their fans travel, but if they bring Florida State into the SEC, I'm trying to see, how do we sell that we bring them enough additional revenue that we pay for ourselves and they make more money off of us? They have Florida just two hours away that has the TV market here."

Similarly, a move to the Big Ten or Big 12 isn't a slam dunk financially for Florida State. Issues surround TV distribution (Maryland won't immediately get a full share from the Big Ten), travel (West Virginia, for example, has had difficulty adjusting to the demands of travel in the Big 12) and, of course, the not insignificant issue of that buyout to leave the ACC, which would cost the university close to $50 million -- a number Maryland is challenging as it works its way out of the league.

In the short term, Spetman said he's confident that the ACC is moving in the right direction, and the Noles staying remains the most appealing solution. However, he said his priority is to ensure that Florida State is prepared for the next major shift.

"We've had conversations at the senior level about what we should consider," Spetman said. "There will be more of those conversations -- they'll continue. It's an evolution every day."

Did everyone catch that?

He wasn't shy about saying it would be great to be in a different conference. That ACC vote of confidence doesn't seem to have meant very much to him.

Maybe Texas will join them :)

(03-06-2013 06:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  To me, Florida State isn't the big domino at all for the ACC. If they left, they could be replaced and not lose a lot. The team that if they go, the ACC is in deep trouble is UVA. Geographically, they are the connecting team that connects the northern schools to the southern schools. If UVA leaves- the entire mid atlantic area is gone for the ACC with no options to get back in there.

Except for the fact that UVA is not even the most popular VA school in the state or in the ACC for that matter. VT carries the 757, Richmond, D.C. and SWVa far better than UVA. The school that the ACC could lose and increase the value of the conference besides Wake Forest, is UVA.

(03-07-2013 03:45 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  To me, Florida State isn't the big domino at all for the ACC. If they left, they could be replaced and not lose a lot. The team that if they go, the ACC is in deep trouble is UVA. Geographically, they are the connecting team that connects the northern schools to the southern schools. If UVA leaves- the entire mid atlantic area is gone for the ACC with no options to get back in there.

Except for the fact that UVA is not even the most popular VA school in the state or in the ACC for that matter. VT carries the 757, Richmond, D.C. and SWVa far better than UVA. The school that the ACC could lose and increase the value of the conference besides Wake Forest, is UVA.

Well there's more to it than that. UVA is a pillar in the academic side of the conference which is extremely important to the ACC. I just don't see UVA making the jump as they don't need the money like Maryland did.

(03-06-2013 06:55 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 05:52 PM)Big 12 Wrote:  Right when the B1G said it would look to add schools, Mizzou stated publicly it would be great to be in the B1G.....and they ended up in the SEC.

Now FSU is stating publicly it would be great to be in the SEC.....would you really be shocked if they ended up in the Big 12?

Unless UNC moves I would be shocked...no ACC school is going to bolt for the Big XII straight up.....it will take a shakeup of a Georgia Tech, UNC & UVa moving to the B1G for that 2 happen...see WVU & Travel Cost...the Big XII is. A small league based around the state of Texas.

If one more team leaves the ACC, it will open season on the ACCC.

That really depends on which school goes. If they lose Wake Forest, no biggie. If they lose UNC it is Katie, bar the door. Of course if you had a choice between Maryland and UNC, why would you take Maryland?

My other thought is, this guy is the AD. While he may have input, these decisions are made way above his pay grade.

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(03-07-2013 02:26 AM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 06:12 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Like I said. woulkd FSU like to play UT and OU or Ohio State and Michigan every year? Yes.

Would they like to play Texas Tech every year?

Probably not.

Yeah, playing in front 60K screaming Tech fans suck. A&M and their fans know all to well the numerous beatings we put on A&M in Lubbock.( 95,97,99,01,03,05,07)

Of course they don't care about Texas Tech. NOBODY cares about Texas Tech. That's why you are completely irrelevant in realignment and do whatever your Daddy UT tells you to do.

Your athletic department is a joke and you live in the past because the last 3 years of the Big 12 you couldn't beat Daddy A&M in ANYTHING.

Let me repeat that: NOTHING

NOT A SINGLE SPORT.

Over a thousand days and not a SINGLE Tech victory.

No wonder you are so bitter and whiney about A&M and live for cherry picked sample of time. Reality just hurts too much!

(03-07-2013 02:32 AM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 11:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I am a big 12 fan except when Tech is involved.

Yeah losing 16 straight times to Tech and the fact that we overtake your stadium when we play you, will do that to you.

Kliff and the 20K or so Tech fans that will invade Ford Stadium can't wait to kick off the 2013 season in Dallas. ESPN moved the game to Friday Aug 30th.

It is cute that you get all torqued up like this but you can stop pretending that Texas Tech matters.