fsquid Wrote:c'mon, I put some fact on the board (a first) and I get nothing?

lmfao lmfao

OK. Nice find. Do you know what conference that loyola marymount played in? I thought that they played in the same conference as UNLV. They were huge rivals back in those days. It was a really big deal when they played. That UNLV team back then was the most exciting team that I have ever watched. In my opinion, they were the best college bb team ever.

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bitcruncher Wrote:Whatever seed Memphis gets, they won't make it to the final four. The lack of good competition will kill them against a good foe.

Once again, it's not going out on a limb saying that Memphis won't make the Final Four. Odds are against us going to the Final Four. If I was betting even money I'd bet against us too.

However, I think we've got just as good a shot as anyone else. You act as if we haven't played anyone. We have beaten two Top 10 teams (plus the #19 team) and our only two losses were close losses to #1 Duke and #7 Texas.

Those games were long ago. The competition played within Conference USA is far below that level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Memphis fall in round 1, although I think round 2 or 3 is more likely.

The lack of competition that we have faced in C-USA is definitely a worry. Lucky for us, our last two regular season games are against better C-USA teams (Houston and UAB). However, UNLV and UMass have proven that you can make the Final Four out of a weaker conference. The odds might be against us, but it's not impossible. On the flip side, I'd be disappointed but not totally surprised if we got knocked out in the 2nd round. After all, it is March Madness and upsets are what make the tournament so great. Getting knocked out in the 3rd round would certainly be no shocker. Your opponent come the 3rd round is going to be a damn good team. Most likely a 4 or 5 seed. You're talking about teams like West Virginia, Iowa, Michigan State, UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, etc.

The problem with this is that UNLV and Umass played in conferences that were much better than the present cusa.

The A-10 was better. UNLV played in the WCC when they went to the Final Four. The WCC was NOT better than the present C-USA. The WCC is the confernce that Gonzaga is in and Gonzaga wasn't worth a damn back then.

The WCC also had loyola Marymount back then as well as UNLV. Loyola mary mount back then for about 3 years was every bit as good as Gonzaga is right now. That would make 2 very good teams in that conference. WCC was much better than the current Cusa .

Actually, I might be wrong about the WCC. I don't think UNLV and LMU were in the same confernce. UNLV may have been in the WAC. I'm not positive.

Anyway, you win. C-USA sucks. But we don't and we'll still be no worse than a 2 seed if we win out and we still won't be any worse than a 3 seed if we don't lose more than on more game. See you in March.

The game you will lose will come early in the NCAA tourney.

Let's see how small we can squeeze the box in the middle. Can we squeeze it down to a dot.

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fsquid Wrote:c'mon, I put some fact on the board (a first) and I get nothing?

lmfao lmfao

OK. Nice find. Do you know what conference that loyola marymount played in? I thought that they played in the same conference as UNLV. They were huge rivals back in those days. It was a really big deal when they played. That UNLV team back then was the most exciting team that I have ever watched. In my opinion, they were the best college bb team ever.

They met in the NCAA Regional Final the year Hank died. LMU has been in the WCC since 1955. UNLV was in that league a short time in the early 70s.

Update...

#3 in both polls and #6 RPI.

I'll say it again. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if Memphis wins out. IMPOSSIBLE.

3601 Wrote:Update...

#3 in both polls and #6 RPI.

I'll say it again. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if Memphis wins out. IMPOSSIBLE.

So...you're saying again that its absolutely impossible for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if they win out?

Heck, I'll go on the record to say that Memphis will be a #1 if they win out.

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3601 Wrote:Update...

#3 in both polls and #6 RPI.

I'll say it again. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if Memphis wins out. IMPOSSIBLE.

So...you're saying again that its absolutely impossible for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if they win out?

Yes. Impossible.

3601 Wrote:Update...

#3 in both polls and #6 RPI.

I'll say it again. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if Memphis wins out. IMPOSSIBLE.

[quote]I'll bet you right now we don't fall below 5 in the RPI[/quote].

Do you remember those words? These words are somewhat absurd.
Wasnt memphis #5 lthe last couple of weeks? Before that they were #4. Its possible that Memphis could be further surpassed by other programs to put them out of the top 8. I know that there is more to it than that, but .lets say that memphis has an rpi of #9. That and the fact that they play in cusa is going to be taken into account. Dont say that its impossible for Memphis to drop to #9. You also said that they would not drop any further than #5.

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3601 Wrote:Update...

#3 in both polls and #6 RPI.

I'll say it again. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for Memphis to be worse than a 2 seed if Memphis wins out. IMPOSSIBLE.

Wasnt memphis #5 lthe last couple of weeks? Before that they were #4. Its possible that Memphis could be further surpassed by other programs to put them out of the top 8. I know that there is more to it than that, but .lets say that memphis has an rpi of #9. That and the fact that they play in cusa is going to be taken into account. Dont say that its impossible for Memphis to drop to #9. You also said that they would not drop any further than #5.

true, but our 2 opponents this week are UAB (in the 60s) and Houston (no idea). Last week they were UTEP (100s) and Tulsa (200s). Hence why we dropped 1 in the RPI.

I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

I may agree with that. But if you lose you will be a solid #3. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you could tumble to a #4. With cusa being the #17 ranked conference, you cant afford to lose to anyone else, especially in cusa.

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

I may agree with that. But if you lose you will be a solid #3. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you could tumble to a #4. With cusa being the #17 ranked conference, you cant afford to lose to anyone else, especially in cusa.

We won't fall below a 3 if we go into the NCAA with only 3 losses.

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

I may agree with that. But if you lose you will be a solid #3. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you could tumble to a #4. With cusa being the #17 ranked conference, you cant afford to lose to anyone else, especially in cusa.

We won't fall below a 3 if we go into the NCAA with only 3 losses.

Quote:"I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI".

Are you that sure?
lmfao

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

I may agree with that. But if you lose you will be a solid #3. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you could tumble to a #4. With cusa being the #17 ranked conference, you cant afford to lose to anyone else, especially in cusa.

We won't fall below a 3 if we go into the NCAA with only 3 losses.

Quote:"I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI".

Are you that sure?
lmfao

Positive. We have fallen to 6 in the RPI by percentage points. We'll probably get back to 5 before the season is over if we win out as you and I discussed. I'll take 6 over 28.

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3601 Wrote:I said four weeks ago that "I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI". A prediction that is currently wrong because we are now at 6.

That has nothing on your ABSURD statement that Memphis will be a 3 seed at best if we win out.

We will be NO WORSE than a #2 seed if we win out. Period.

lmfao lmfao

Time will tell.

If we win out. However, we have a tough game at UAB this weekend. We can lose that game and I still say we won't fall below 3.

I may agree with that. But if you lose you will be a solid #3. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you could tumble to a #4. With cusa being the #17 ranked conference, you cant afford to lose to anyone else, especially in cusa.

We won't fall below a 3 if we go into the NCAA with only 3 losses.

Quote:"I bet we won't fall below a 5 in the RPI".

Are you that sure?
lmfao

Positive. We have fallen to 6 in the RPI by percentage points. We'll probably get back to 5 before the season is over if we win out as you and I discussed. I'll take 6 over 28.

Take the #6 if you can keep it. I will settle for being the much more prestigious program, in a much more prestigious conference, with a much more prestigious coach with plenty of final fours and a championship, as well as many more opportunities to win other championships in the future.

Cuse will be back on top before you know it.

Memphis has had this one really good year in the last 10-15 years? Cuse has had alot more success. I will take Cuse's chances for staying on top over memphis chances any day. :shhh:

With some good luck, I'm hoping Memphis will tie Cuse in titles this year.

fsquid Wrote:With some good luck, I'm hoping Memphis will tie Cuse in titles this year.

Not going to happen. Memphis will have a better chance next season. One of the following teams will win the NC this year:

Uconn
Villanova
Duke
Texas
Ohio St

Memphis is too inexperienced this year. next year is going to be the year for Memphis to do something if ever. But by that time next year, Cuse could have a second title and memphis would need to get a couple.

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fsquid Wrote:With some good luck, I'm hoping Memphis will tie Cuse in titles this year.

Not going to happen. Memphis will have a better chance next season. One of the following teams will win the NC this year:

Uconn
Villanova
Duke
Texas
Ohio St

Memphis is too inexperienced this year. next year is going to be the year for Memphis to do something if ever. But by that time next year, Cuse could have a second title and memphis would need to get a couple.

I seem to remember an inexperienced Cuse team winning a title. Same with a Michigan team getting to the finals twice.