(03-06-2013 08:35 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  People have bad days. Coaches have 'em too. Maybe it's better he just didn't show up than go say something stupid.

XACTLY! ...like Knee High Park Snoop said,,,,fk it!

(03-06-2013 06:20 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 05:48 PM)cocky Wrote:  If I was a coach and lost to this Marshall team, i'd be pissed enough to not want to talk to anyone, too. lol.

I've said this a few times, but the Herd is a mystery. There's a good reason why some picked them to come in 2nd in the conference; there's a lot of talent there.....scary good talent, in fact.

I'm not being critical of Herrion, or the players; but something just doesn't add up. That team could/should be sitting on 20+ wins. Perhaps it's team chemistry, or something else; but this has to be a frustrating year for Herd fans.

The problem we've had all year is the PG position. The PG is the QB of your team....he makes it go. Controls the rythm, puts people where they should be and lets the players make plays. Losing Pitts and finding out last minute that our projected PG "Kanty" wouldnt be eligible just really changed the dynamics of the season.

From what I can tell he's a dickhead. He runs up the score in his house then doesn't go to the press conference because we beat him and burst his bubble dreams. Btw Herrion went to the press conf after the beatdown in Hattiesburg.

(03-06-2013 09:22 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  From what I can tell he's a Paul Finebaum. He runs up the score in his house then doesn't go to the press conference because we beat him and burst his bubble dreams. Btw Herrion went to the press conf after the beatdown in Hattiesburg.

...and who do you tell...do they listen?

(03-06-2013 11:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 10:13 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Ah Jonesing. The funniest thing is that your NCAA at large hopes were gone at the start of December!

Actually September, when the schedule came out.

The big question is ECU still on the CBI bubble? Ten in a row.

(03-06-2013 09:22 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  From what I can tell he's a Paul Finebaum. He runs up the score in his house then doesn't go to the press conference because we beat him and burst his bubble dreams. Btw Herrion went to the press conf after the beatdown in Hattiesburg.

I may be wrong, but DT has never struck me as not being upstanding.
But, unless he had a stomach virus with projectile vomiting, he should've gone. Who knows?
One note on if he ran the score up earlier...some folks think Marshall just had the worst night a team could ever have.
Kyle Ringo at YahooSports wrote this after the game:
The Golden Eagles knocked down 11 of 20 3-pointers, most of which came in the first half. They weren't trying to run up the score late.
So, if you"re a Marshall fan, you may think the score was run up, but some times, that's not the case.



Yahoo USM-Marshall

I was at the Marshall game in Hattiesburg and overheard an older couple behind me talking. Based on what they said and how they said it, I got the impression they were either close friends or related to Tyndall. Anyway, the man told the woman that Tyndall really didn't like the coach from Marshall.. Thought he was a jerk or something along those lines. As the game progressed and So Miss kept piling it on, I was thinking the old guy may be right.

This may or may not have had anything to do with the drubbing in H'burg, or the missed press conference, I'm just putting it out there as a possibility.

From my days in Sports Adm. and Coaching at USM I can only say that his not going was a bad decision and my teachers would tell us that you had to face the bad as well as the good. It is not a smart move even if you don't like the team because you might have to play them again (in this case very soon might be when) and you don't want to give them more motivation against you. If he has some problem with Marshall that is one thing, but truthfully as a Southern Miss fan I can't excuse his actions and deeply regret he did so. Marshall, to me, is a valuable and important member of the conference and a school I have a lot of respect for so I can't figure what his problem is with them. I realize he could feel that way about a school I dislike, but I would not act as he did after a defeat in a game against them no matter how much I dislike them.

I think he has done a fabulous job at USM this season and I appreciate that as well as support him, but in this case if he can't or won't say why then I have to respectfully say, he was wrong.

I have often wondered if Tyndall interviewed at Marshall at the same time Herrion did and didn't get he job. I have no clue if that is true or not, but maybe he just doesn't like Herrion, hell I don't like Herrion anymore. He has really lost the fans and the team this season. I hope it comes back next year, but I'm really starting to question his methods.

(03-06-2013 11:33 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  ...you had to face the bad as well as the good. It is not a smart move even if you don't like the team because you might have to play them again
...

Not relating this to Tyndall, coaching or press conferences, but that's good advice for life in general.

(03-07-2013 08:56 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 11:33 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  ...you had to face the bad as well as the good. It is not a smart move even if you don't like the team because you might have to play them again
...

Not relating this to Tyndall, coaching or press conferences, but that's good advice for life in general.

I agree and have do that from time to time here for that matter....but everyone has bad days and I don't see it as a judgement issue....seems like a non-issue

(03-07-2013 09:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-07-2013 08:56 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 11:33 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  ...you had to face the bad as well as the good. It is not a smart move even if you don't like the team because you might have to play them again
...

Not relating this to Tyndall, coaching or press conferences, but that's good advice for life in general.

I agree and have do that from time to time here for that matter....but everyone has bad days and I don't see it as a judgement issue....seems like a non-issue

in class we were taught as a coach you have to remember you represent the school or organization you coach. You have to be aware of that at all times because you will have people who will even go through your garbage trying to find something to get you on. I will say the coach might have not meant anything by it, it still is a mistake that has appearances of poor conduct due to the fact his team beat them by a very large margin earlier, then when they get the win this time, he doesn't show up to be the honorable loser. I am not coming down on him, but I do think it was a very bad decision and one that almost all coaches would realize would get attention. I was taught at USM to make decisions like that with the program in mind and not create an appearance of poor sportsmanship, since the head coach also can set the example of conduct by the fans. If you create an inflammation of disrespect to the opponent, you could see it spill into the crowd and cause a bad situation.

(03-07-2013 09:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-07-2013 08:56 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(03-06-2013 11:33 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  ...you had to face the bad as well as the good. It is not a smart move even if you don't like the team because you might have to play them again
...

Not relating this to Tyndall, coaching or press conferences, but that's good advice for life in general.

I agree and have do that from time to time here for that matter....but everyone has bad days and I don't see it as a judgement issue....seems like a non-issue

Yes, I've never had a problem saying "Oops, I was wrong" and have a problem understanding people that do. We're not right all the time and we all make mistakes.

The integrity and personal value of a person is more determined in how that person handles mistakes more than any way I know....especially when there is the anonymity of a screen name involved. You can say/claim a lot of things behind a screen name without anyone knowing who you are.

Just so my comment is understood; there are a lot of high integrity people here.

(03-06-2013 11:36 PM)MU42 Wrote:  I have often wondered if Tyndall interviewed at Marshall at the same time Herrion did and didn't get he job. I have no clue if that is true or not, but maybe he just doesn't like Herrion, hell I don't like Herrion anymore. He has really lost the fans and the team this season. I hope it comes back next year, but I'm really starting to question his methods.

If that's the case . . Thanks Marshall!

I have Herd through the grapevine that he did apply for the MU job, but the way he was a jerk about scheduling us while he was at Morehead didn't even get him a call back.

It was bad form. I would think the conference mandates post game interviews and if so he will be fined unless their was a legitimate reason. Not liking a school or holding a petty grudge are not legit reasons

First off I'm calling bull**** on this whole ***** fest. This wasn't the conference tourney, that's the only place there is a requirement for a appearance at a post game presser.
Second there is NO post game presser. The "presser" that the marshall coach went to consisted of a beat writer sitting by while he did his radio post game. Which DT did after the game wed night. That's all he's required to do.
Now, before the Marshall group points at DT, remember 4 are pointing right back.
Marshall has had more complaints filed about them with the conf office than any other school over the last few years. On ONE road trip a couple years ago, Marshall refused sm laundry service which is an agreement with all the schools that the home team will provide any laundry services the visitors need during the stay. A few years ago women's teams played 2 road games each trip.
Your coach refused to let sm use the cam center claiming there was a volleyball tourney going on which was false. Then locked up all the basketballs when southern miss showed up for shoot around.
Maybe this new ad who is well liked will change some things. I'm going to go with the idea that DT's deal is he knows how Marshall has operated in the past.
Get your own house in order before you come at us bitching about anything.

(03-10-2013 07:26 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  First off I'm calling bull**** on this whole ***** fest. This wasn't the conference tourney, that's the only place there is a requirement for a appearance at a post game presser.
Second there is NO post game presser. The "presser" that the marshall coach went to consisted of a beat writer sitting by while he did his radio post game. Which DT did after the game wed night. That's all he's required to do.
Now, before the Marshall group points at DT, remember 4 are pointing right back.
Marshall has had more complaints filed about them with the conf office than any other school over the last few years. On ONE road trip a couple years ago, Marshall refused sm laundry service which is an agreement with all the schools that the home team will provide any laundry services the visitors need during the stay. A few years ago women's teams played 2 road games each trip.
Your coach refused to let sm use the cam center claiming there was a volleyball tourney going on which was false. Then locked up all the basketballs when southern miss showed up for shoot around.
Maybe this new ad who is well liked will change some things. I'm going to go with the idea that DT's deal is he knows how Marshall has operated in the past.
Get your own house in order before you come at us bitching about anything.

I don't know if what you claim is true or not, but one thing I do know for a fact is that after every Marshall football or basketball game there is a post game press conference in which both head coaches and usually a couple Herd players are ask to speak. And it isn't just one beat writer, there are about 2-5 beat writers, 3-4 columnists, and three local tv stations have a person there. So by my count that's about 8-12 members of the media. In Hattiesburg you may only have your radio guy and a beat writer but not here. We get covered pretty well around the state and Tri-State.

(03-10-2013 07:47 AM)MU42 Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 07:26 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  First off I'm calling bull**** on this whole ***** fest. This wasn't the conference tourney, that's the only place there is a requirement for a appearance at a post game presser.
Second there is NO post game presser. The "presser" that the marshall coach went to consisted of a beat writer sitting by while he did his radio post game. Which DT did after the game wed night. That's all he's required to do.
Now, before the Marshall group points at DT, remember 4 are pointing right back.
Marshall has had more complaints filed about them with the conf office than any other school over the last few years. On ONE road trip a couple years ago, Marshall refused sm laundry service which is an agreement with all the schools that the home team will provide any laundry services the visitors need during the stay. A few years ago women's teams played 2 road games each trip.
Your coach refused to let sm use the cam center claiming there was a volleyball tourney going on which was false. Then locked up all the basketballs when southern miss showed up for shoot around.
Maybe this new ad who is well liked will change some things. I'm going to go with the idea that DT's deal is he knows how Marshall has operated in the past.
Get your own house in order before you come at us bitching about anything.

I don't know if what you claim is true or not, but one thing I do know for a fact is that after every Marshall football or basketball game there is a post game press conference in which both head coaches and usually a couple Herd players are ask to speak. And it isn't just one beat writer, there are about 2-5 beat writers, 3-4 columnists, and three local tv stations have a person there. So by my count that's about 8-12 members of the media. In Hattiesburg you may only have your radio guy and a beat writer but not here. We get covered pretty well around the state and Tri-State.

When this particular instance I mentioned occurred was when you were travel partners with ecu. Our team had a chartered flight for that weekend and the officers of the booster club were invited. My wife was one of those and witnessed what I described. Not to mention at football games your pa is still blaring music while the visiting team is trying to call signals, well after when it should be cut off.
There are no league requirements for a post game presser of any sort during the regular season and no one has provided any proof that dt was requested. He did his post game radio and that is all he is obligated to do.
Once again, Marshall has had more complaints filed with the league office than any other school by visitors. Clean up your own act.

(03-10-2013 10:01 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 07:47 AM)MU42 Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 07:26 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  First off I'm calling bull**** on this whole ***** fest. This wasn't the conference tourney, that's the only place there is a requirement for a appearance at a post game presser.
Second there is NO post game presser. The "presser" that the marshall coach went to consisted of a beat writer sitting by while he did his radio post game. Which DT did after the game wed night. That's all he's required to do.
Now, before the Marshall group points at DT, remember 4 are pointing right back.
Marshall has had more complaints filed about them with the conf office than any other school over the last few years. On ONE road trip a couple years ago, Marshall refused sm laundry service which is an agreement with all the schools that the home team will provide any laundry services the visitors need during the stay. A few years ago women's teams played 2 road games each trip.
Your coach refused to let sm use the cam center claiming there was a volleyball tourney going on which was false. Then locked up all the basketballs when southern miss showed up for shoot around.
Maybe this new ad who is well liked will change some things. I'm going to go with the idea that DT's deal is he knows how Marshall has operated in the past.
Get your own house in order before you come at us bitching about anything.

I don't know if what you claim is true or not, but one thing I do know for a fact is that after every Marshall football or basketball game there is a post game press conference in which both head coaches and usually a couple Herd players are ask to speak. And it isn't just one beat writer, there are about 2-5 beat writers, 3-4 columnists, and three local tv stations have a person there. So by my count that's about 8-12 members of the media. In Hattiesburg you may only have your radio guy and a beat writer but not here. We get covered pretty well around the state and Tri-State.

When this particular instance I mentioned occurred was when you were travel partners with ecu. Our team had a chartered flight for that weekend and the officers of the booster club were invited. My wife was one of those and witnessed what I described. Not to mention at football games your pa is still blaring music while the visiting team is trying to call signals, well after when it should be cut off.
There are no league requirements for a post game presser of any sort during the regular season and no one has provided any proof that dt was requested. He did his post game radio and that is all he is obligated to do.
Once again, Marshall has had more complaints filed with the league office than any other school by visitors. Clean up your own act.

This is now an old issue that has been hacked to death. That is exactly proof of my post that as coach you have to be careful about your actions because you can stir up your fans either in a good way or a bad one. It can cause some to get violent and that is one thing you will have to deal with, and while some would deny they stirred it up, deep down I would think they know they have to know they do. That is why it is better to say I screwed up and move on so the whole thing would be forgotten or at least settled enough it dies shortly.

As for actions of other teams, I don't really care what the other teams do because as a coach you are the head of your team. If you reduce your thinking to the childish, "they did it so if they can get away with it I will to" mentality. You take care of yourself and your program regardless. Louisville had a coach that use to cause a stir every time he came to Hattiesburg, but Bower never to my memory, bother with it publicly. Bower went about his business of taking care of USM and the passion spilled over from the Louisville players to USM with Louisville usually looking like the jerks.