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Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
going on the stAte board. I expect it has more to do with the fact that we beat them than that we do not have football. Obviously to them, if you don't have football, you are nothing. Why do they even follow the basketball team?
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
They probably wouldn't want Marquette or Georgetown, either.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
(03-04-2013 04:49 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  They probably wouldn't want Marquette or Georgetown, either.

It's a nonissue. We are in the Belt as long as we want to be. All things being equal, I'd probably prefer to be in nonfootball conference. But the Sun Belt is perfect for us geographically, and I don't think we could convince anyone we are a Catholic school. Whether the MoValley is even remotely possible, who knows.
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Re: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
You should pay more attention to our attendance when we play you to judge our fan interest than to message board commentators view.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
(03-04-2013 04:49 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  going on the stAte board. I expect it has more to do with the fact that we beat them than that we do not have football. Obviously to them, if you don't have football, you are nothing. Why do they even follow the basketball team?

I hate to be an ******* like so many who use their board(there are a lot of good guys on that board too), but I believe they were barely a .500 program for years until they hired Hugh Freeze and then Gus Malzahn. They moaned and bitched for years until they fired Steve Roberts. It's not like they've always been a football powerhouse. Why the hell it bothers some of them so much whether or not we have a football program, and how many fans we have, how many of our fans wear school gear at the games, or how many have Trojan license plates on their cars, I don't know. But it does bother some of them a lot. Basketball is for sissies. They play in indoors where it's warm. You gotta be tough to sit out in inclement weather and watch a football game I guess.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
(03-04-2013 05:58 PM)LRTrojan Wrote:  You gotta be tough to sit out in inclement weather and watch a football game I guess.

Well, either that or just dumb.
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(03-04-2013 05:53 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  You should pay more attention to our attendance when we play you to judge our fan interest than to message board commentators view.

Don't think anyone here questions your fan interest. I think everyone here would concede that ASU has a lot more fans, and they certainly travel much better. Just don't get the obsession from some on your board with which teams fans wears the most team gear, which teams fans has the most team license plates on their cars, or which team has the oldest fans, and other silly **** like that. I'm more concerned with who beat who the most. And I believe that probably over the past ten years, it's probably about even on the men's side, and I'd say that since Foley came along, our women have dominated the series for the past seven years or so. That's all I'm concerned about between us and ASU. That we beat them more than they beat us.
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(03-04-2013 06:33 PM)Scotto Wrote:  Color me dumb.

There was a time when I would have and wouldn't have complained. But my temperature tolerance has declined drastically with age. I will do it for my son-in-law, but that is about all. Cold I expect, but when it gets uncomfortable, my enthusiasm goes down.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
If you think it is only ASU fans saying that, you need to get out more.

There are contingents of fans at every Sun Belt school unhappy about UTA and UALR.
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(03-04-2013 06:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you think it is only ASU fans saying that, you need to get out more.

There are contingents of fans at every Sun Belt school unhappy about UTA and UALR.

I don't read the other boards much. I just glanced at ASU's because of Saturday's game.
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(03-04-2013 06:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you think it is only ASU fans saying that, you need to get out more.

There are contingents of fans at every Sun Belt school unhappy about UTA and UALR.

Why, I wonder? Our not having football doesn't hurt them at all.
Or is it just football arrogance?
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
I am sure we are the pwt living in our single wide and that many in their double wides look down on us.

The truth is, we are not in the SBC anymore. The sbc changed their name to cusa and added a few good basketball schools to form a pretty good conference.

I would love to play so miss, ecu, uncc, udo, and top 25 la tech every year.

The new SBC is the land of broken toys in football and basketball.

5 years ago we were doing pretty good in basketball as a conference and it went to hell.

Football picked up in that period of time and then everyone that could left.

Now the folks that missed the bus are stuck with all of the ugly girls and pissed about it. Well, most colleges have an ugly girl sorority. You can get pissed about being in phi beta phatso but they may need to learn to like it. 04-cheers
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
Phi Beta Phatso? Is that a relatively new sorority?
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
(03-04-2013 07:07 PM)insideualr Wrote:  I am sure we are the pwt living in our single wide and that many in their double wides look down on us.

The truth is, we are not in the SBC anymore. The sbc changed their name to cusa and added a few good basketball schools to form a pretty good conference.

I would love to play so miss, ecu, uncc, udo, and top 25 la tech every year.

The new SBC is the land of broken toys in football and basketball.

5 years ago we were doing pretty good in basketball as a conference and it went to hell.

Football picked up in that period of time and then everyone that could left.

Now the folks that missed the bus are stuck with all of the ugly girls and pissed about it. Well, most colleges have an ugly girl sorority. You can get pissed about being in phi beta phatso but they may need to learn to like it. 04-cheers

Don't really understand anyone left in the conference having an issue with UALR or UTA. Without those 2 teams they'd be down to 8 members and would have to start worrying about losing their automatic NCAA bid with any more defections.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
There is a significant portion of the sports fan world that think that football IS the only sport.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
(03-04-2013 06:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you think it is only ASU fans saying that, you need to get out more.

There are contingents of fans at every Sun Belt school unhappy about UTA and UALR.

arkstfan, I've always considered you to be very knowledgable about the ASU program, Sun Belt, and NCAA rules. Explain what is the problem with UALR, or Texas-Arlington being non-football schools? It doesn't affect those football schools in anyway. For some, it sure get their panties in a wad.
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RE: Lots of whining that we don't belong in the Belt
WKU will get an invite before long.

After that I can't even name the schools in the conference...

ull, a state and a bunch of new guys. that makes us a long term core member....
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(03-04-2013 07:26 PM)insideualr Wrote:  WKU will get an invite before long.

After that I can't even name the schools in the conference...

ull, a state and a bunch of new guys. that makes us a long term core member....

Where do they go? These are the 14 schools in the new Sun Belt (Conference USA light).

Old Dominion, Florida International,Louisiana Tech, North Carolina- Charlotte, North Texas and Texas-San Antonio Alabama- Birmingham, East Carolina, Marshall, Rice, Southern Mississippi, Tulane, Tulsa and UTEP.

Just went to another site and saw Tulane and ECU are leaving or the former Big East. I guess that would leave 12 in that mish-mash of a conference.
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(03-04-2013 08:41 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(03-04-2013 07:26 PM)insideualr Wrote:  WKU will get an invite before long.

After that I can't even name the schools in the conference...

ull, a state and a bunch of new guys. that makes us a long term core member....

Where do they go? These are the 14 schools in the new Sun Belt (Conference USA light).

Old Dominion, Florida International,Louisiana Tech, North Carolina- Charlotte, North Texas and Texas-San Antonio Alabama- Birmingham, East Carolina, Marshall, Rice, Southern Mississippi, Tulane, Tulsa and UTEP.

Just went to another site and saw Tulane and ECU are leaving or the former Big East. I guess that would leave 12 in that mish-mash of a conference.

IT doesn't bother me with You guys not having football. In my opinion it would be better for you guys to be in a basketball only conference. I love the instate rivalry. I just don't like losing to you but that's our problem not yours.
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(03-04-2013 08:54 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  IT doesn't bother me with You guys not having football. In my opinion it would be better for you guys to be in a basketball only conference. I love the instate rivalry. I just don't like losing to you but that's our problem not yours.

We have the same problem, It's a bummer to lose to ASU. Hurts until you get'em back.

If I had my druthers I'd rather be in a all basketball school conference. We could still play each other, but it wouldn't mean quite as much as it does being a conference game.
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