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Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Kansas loses at TCU by a lot-3 CUSA teams beat TCU
Minnesota 3-8 in last 11 games- lost last two by 21 and 26 to Iowa
Miami lost by 20 something to Wake Forest
Duke lost by almost 30 to Miami.
We lost by 2 to a team that is good on heir home court.
It happens. We were due for a loss and didn't come out with the same intensity as Xavier. We will be Ok. Don't think much difference in being a 5 thru 12 seed this year for first game. Would like to avoid 8-9 game.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Run away. Run away as fast as you can.
They're going to eat you alive.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Salukied!!! This thread is now dead.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:02 PM)tigers1125 Wrote: Kansas loses at TCU by a lot-3 CUSA teams beat TCU
Minnesota 3-8 in last 11 games- lost last two by 21 and 26 to Iowa
Miami lost by 20 something to Wake Forest
Duke lost by almost 30 to Miami.
We lost by 2 to a team that is good on heir home court.
It happens. We were due for a loss and didn't come out with the same intensity as Xavier. We will be Ok. Don't think much difference in being a 5 thru 12 seed this year for first game. Would like to avoid 8-9 game.
NO! We suck! And Pastner needs to curse!
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tigers1125
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
If we played that many quality games we would win more than Minny. See 3-8 in last 11 games and losing by 26 and 21 last 2. This board would explode.
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Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2013 10:47 PM by salukiblue.)
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
Do you think Minny would have a better record if they played our schedule for the past 20 games? Not equal but better. I seriously doubt they would or maybe only 10-12 teams would have BETTER record.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Unfortunately our schedule does not allow for mistakes. We don't play very many quality team out of conference.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:43 PM)bluebacker Wrote: Unfortunately our schedule does not allow for mistakes. We don't play very many quality team out of conference.
You are correct. Next year, we can lose to mediocre teams on the road left and right (as long as we also win a few games against good teams).
When you only have two wins over Southern Miss to hang your hat on, you can't lose to a shorthanded mediocre Xavier team.
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2013 10:45 PM by JMSTiger.)
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
It's irrelevant what he thinks, I think, or you think. The facts are the facts. As has been clearly stated, those teams have a number of really good wins to balance the losses. Losses are more accepted when you play a rigorous schedule, for good reason. Tigers are playing the schedule they have, nothing can be done now. But we've always known that with CUSA, fellas have to win a few non-con games that matter.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
I don't know, but the bottom line is they have some huge wins. All things considered, it is better to show that you can beat elite teams than it is to show that you can't lose to buster teams, since the bulk of the NCAA is comprised of elite, not buster, teams.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:46 PM)salukiblue Wrote: I don't know, but the bottom line is they have some huge wins. All things considered, it is better to show that you can beat elite teams than it is to show that you can't lose to buster teams, since the bulk of the NCAA is comprised of elite, not buster, teams.
Good point.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Hell, now Utk is about to beat Florida.
fml
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:41 PM)tigers1125 Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
Do you think Minny would have a better record if they played our schedule for the past 20 games? Not equal but better. I seriously doubt they would or maybe only 10-12 teams would have BETTER record.
You did not answer my question.
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Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
The whole point is that you are hung up on resume as the only measure of quality.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:53 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
The whole point is that you are hung up on resume as the only measure of quality.
I'm not hung up on crap, I was responding to the OP's post. You want to start a fight about something that isn't there.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
Vawls looking 'pretty good' against Florida so far.
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RE: Are Kansas, Minnesota, Duke Miami mediocre teams?
(02-26-2013 10:53 PM)tigers1125 Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:41 PM)tigers1125 Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:36 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:32 PM)lenetzach Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote: These kinds of posts are just duuuuuummmmmbbb.
Kansas: Beat Ohio State, Belmont, St Louis, Temple, Ok. State, KSU (2)
Duke: Beat Ohio State, KY, Minnesota, VCU, Louisville
Minnesota just beat the #1 team in the country
Miami beat Michigan State and has one loss in the ACC.
Are you really going to throw out UTk, Harvard, Ohio and Northern Iowa as the comeback to that?
This kind of post is even more duuuumb
I must have missed when we played Ohio St. Belmont, etc teams that impress you.
Point is, stinkers happen, both to teams that have had more chances to prove themselves and to teams that have had less.
If you would quit being such a baby about things, jeez.
The op was trying to say hey look at these teams, they had bad losses. So Memphis loses a game to a fringe top 100 rpi team missing their 3rd leading scorer and it is just like the other examples.
Except, those other teams have something to balance on the positive side. Whether that is under any control of Memphis isn't the point. The fact remains Memphis doesn't have those chances. Next year they will, until then, don't try to compare resumes versus teams with multiple good wins.
Do you think Minny would have a better record if they played our schedule for the past 20 games? Not equal but better. I seriously doubt they would or maybe only 10-12 teams would have BETTER record.
You did not answer my question.
Well, since Minnesota proved they are better than Memphis in Maui, then I don't see why they could not have beaten the slaw that the Tigers ran through.
In the Big 10 you play three or four ridiculous games in a row and I'm sure it wears on teams. I can see dropping a game vs. Northwestern after consecutive battles vs. MSU, Michigan and tOSU.
Having to play Rice, SMU, UAB and the like is tantamount to playing December buy games.
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