http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow. I think if we don't work together and use our numbers, conferences like the Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt are all going to get burned. Oh what am I saying, that is a pipe dream. Too many are too proud of the one bone they have to do that.

I also think this article might be of interest regardless of how you feel about realignment.
http://www.guilfordian.com/sports/2013/0...alignment/

(02-22-2013 12:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow. I think if we don't work together and use our numbers, conferences like the Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt are all going to get burned. Oh what am I saying, that is a pipe dream. Too many are too proud of the one bone they have to do that.

I also think this article might be of interest regardless of how you feel about realignment.
http://www.guilfordian.com/sports/2013/0...alignment/

We'll probably just become the new FCS. It would suck, but it would be a lot better than the current FCS. It would be full of programs that invest serious money into their programs.

It's just a matter of time until a division is created.

(02-22-2013 01:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 12:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow. I think if we don't work together and use our numbers, conferences like the Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt are all going to get burned. Oh what am I saying, that is a pipe dream. Too many are too proud of the one bone they have to do that.

I also think this article might be of interest regardless of how you feel about realignment.
http://www.guilfordian.com/sports/2013/0...alignment/

We'll probably just become the new FCS. It would suck, but it would be a lot better than the current FCS. It would be full of programs that invest serious money into their programs.

It's just a matter of time until a division is created.

And when those same programs can no longer get on TV and get decent revenue from ticket sells because they're not allowed to play the "big" programs anymore; then you'll see most will STOP investing and truly become FCS programs.

I for one hope Charlotte and CUSA fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening.

(02-22-2013 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 01:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 12:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow. I think if we don't work together and use our numbers, conferences like the Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt are all going to get burned. Oh what am I saying, that is a pipe dream. Too many are too proud of the one bone they have to do that.

I also think this article might be of interest regardless of how you feel about realignment.
http://www.guilfordian.com/sports/2013/0...alignment/

We'll probably just become the new FCS. It would suck, but it would be a lot better than the current FCS. It would be full of programs that invest serious money into their programs.

It's just a matter of time until a division is created.

And when those same programs can no longer get on TV and get decent revenue from ticket sells because they're not allowed to play the "big" programs anymore; then you'll see most will STOP investing and truly become FCS programs.

I for one hope Charlotte and CUSA fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening.

I hope the BE, MWC (who is doing the best in the fight), C-USA, and Sun Belt would. If they would establish an alliance or some unofficial but solidarity with each other, they can do more. Problem is just as is often seen on these boards, the failure to accept other mid majors enough to actually work with them.

This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

obviously you not only didn't read the article but missed many others for difference sources, the Big East is NOT a major conference in the future, but on the level of C-USA and MWC. I know it is hard for some to swallow but the Big East has lost that status just as the Southern Conference did when Alabama, Clemson and the other SEC and ACC members left them. It is time for people to realize this so we can all work together to make sure we don't become more of a lesser group of teams.

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

Nope
FBS=Big 5
New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC + MWC + Big East

(02-22-2013 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 01:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 12:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow. I think if we don't work together and use our numbers, conferences like the Big East, C-USA, MWC, Sun Belt are all going to get burned. Oh what am I saying, that is a pipe dream. Too many are too proud of the one bone they have to do that.

I also think this article might be of interest regardless of how you feel about realignment.
http://www.guilfordian.com/sports/2013/0...alignment/

We'll probably just become the new FCS. It would suck, but it would be a lot better than the current FCS. It would be full of programs that invest serious money into their programs.

It's just a matter of time until a division is created.

And when those same programs can no longer get on TV and get decent revenue from ticket sells because they're not allowed to play the "big" programs anymore; then you'll see most will STOP investing and truly become FCS programs.

I for one hope Charlotte and CUSA fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening.

100 % correct

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

I couldn't disagree more. What is their motivation to do this? The big 5 already have all the money and access to big games. What do they have to gain?

(02-22-2013 02:35 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

Nope
FBS=Big 5
New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC + MWC + Big East

I don't see Navy, Boise State, UConn, etc. getting thrown under the bus. Throwing UTSA, UNT, LA Tech, etc. under the bus will be pretty easy. If USM, Marshall, Tulsa, etc. don't escape, we'll basically be collateral damage.

The writing has been on the wall for years. What has our athletic department always talked about? Competing for championships. A lot of fans care more about rankings and about beating AQ teams... but the drumbeat coming from the AD has always been "championships." Fans don't really talk about CUSA championships until the teams that DIDN'T win them start leaving.

When USM becomes the founding flagship of I-AAA, the party line will be "this is a real opportunity to compete for a national championship. "

(02-22-2013 02:56 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

I couldn't disagree more. What is their motivation to do this? The big 5 already have all the money and access to big games. What do they have to gain?

They don't though. They had to carve out a piece of the BCS pie for an NIU team that had no business being in any real bowl last year. Navy or ECU would have at least brought fans and a TV audience. This is why the MAC (and its cohorts, CUSA and the SBC) must be removed from the picture.

(02-22-2013 03:02 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:56 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

I couldn't disagree more. What is their motivation to do this? The big 5 already have all the money and access to big games. What do they have to gain?

They don't though. They had to carve out a piece of the BCS pie for an NIU team that had no business being in any real bowl last year. Navy or ECU would have at least brought fans and a TV audience. This is why the MAC (and its cohorts, CUSA and the SBC) must be removed from the picture.

That's one time in the existence of the BCS. And the media contract of ~4 big 5 schools equals more then all the group of 5 media contracts combined.

(02-22-2013 03:09 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 03:02 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:56 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

I couldn't disagree more. What is their motivation to do this? The big 5 already have all the money and access to big games. What do they have to gain?

They don't though. They had to carve out a piece of the BCS pie for an NIU team that had no business being in any real bowl last year. Navy or ECU would have at least brought fans and a TV audience. This is why the MAC (and its cohorts, CUSA and the SBC) must be removed from the picture.

That's one time in the existence of the BCS. And the media contract of ~4 big 5 schools equals more then all the group of 5 media contracts combined.

Hawaii went to a BCS game, too.

That TV time is sufficiently valuable that the big 5 consider this a problem to be fixed.

as much as the big conferences probably hate to admit it, they still need the smaller D1 schools. We all saw how Big 10 is going to quit scheduling FCS schools in the future

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

Agree.

(02-22-2013 06:56 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

Agree.

Even the buttbaby part??

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

I want some of whatever you're smoking.

(02-22-2013 12:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...es-future/

I find this article interesting and disturbing. It just goes to make me feel that college football is headed to a situation where the gap between the big conferences and the mid major conferences is going to grow.

IMO with these new TV deals from the Power 5 we've hit that point. It's just going to get worse when the B10 & ACC restructure their TV deals to include UL, ND, Rutgers & UMd. I've read estimates that say the B10 could get as much as $40M per school / year off TV. Once that happens the SEC will react and there will be more consolidation just so they can all prove a point within their circle jerk.

(02-22-2013 02:57 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:35 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-22-2013 02:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is what will happen:

FBS=Big 5 + MWC + Big East

New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC

This will be a return to the CUSA 1.0 status quo in a lot of ways. One exception will be that USM will be left out of the top category.

I feel about 90% certain on this. Why? Because it's (mostly) just a return to the status quo ante. All those clown colleges that formed the Sun Belt will be taken down a notch, as they should. They're not Louisville, ECU, or even USM, and everyone knows it, and the fact that they're getting any FBS money at all is wrong.

USM is by far the biggest victim in all of this. We brought it on ourselves by hiring a self-promoting bean counter to run things. The parents of I-AAA will be Karl Benson and Jeff Hammond. Benson's the dad. Hammond will give birth to the buttbaby that is I-AAA and will proclaim it to be a beautiful opportunity.

Nope
FBS=Big 5
New classification = CUSA + Sun Belt + MAC + MWC + Big East

I don't see Navy, Boise State, UConn, etc. getting thrown under the bus. Throwing UTSA, UNT, LA Tech, etc. under the bus will be pretty easy. If USM, Marshall, Tulsa, etc. don't escape, we'll basically be collateral damage.

The writing has been on the wall for years. What has our athletic department always talked about? Competing for championships. A lot of fans care more about rankings and about beating AQ teams... but the drumbeat coming from the AD has always been "championships." Fans don't really talk about CUSA championships until the teams that DIDN'T win them start leaving.

When USM becomes the founding flagship of I-AAA, the party line will be "this is a real opportunity to compete for a national championship. "

You are so full of it. If there is a I-AAA, we won't be in it. I-AA will become I-AAA and we would be I-AA.