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Will an espn Big East contract negatively affect our chances to join the ACC
Since Espn will have us under contract for basically peanuts, would they have any incentive to allow the ACC to extend an offer. We all know that the networks make these type of decisions see pitt and syracuse invites.
 
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Was thinking the same thing. ESPN might not want to have lost the UC and UConn fball/bball content to NBC and would have potentially incentivized other conferences to pick the two schools up. Now that they have us for the spare changed they found under the sofa cushion, they are less likley to do so.
 
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Why does NBC not get the chance to counter again?
 
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ACC isn't going to have a choice once the B1G comes and bends them over a rail and has their way with them....so no, I'm not concerned about ESPN ruining our chances at the ACC. They will have to have teams to backfill the departures and we are top or near the top of that list.
 
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(02-21-2013 11:11 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  Why does NBC not get the chance to counter again?

Because the geniuses who signed the contract before agreed to this "ESPN matching" clause. ESPN gets the chance to match an offer, and it is either go with ESPN or the other offer, and no further bids may be submitted.

At least I think that's how it is.
 
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Ah, so it's basically the transition tag.

As I said a week or so ago, it makes sense for ESPN. Why give up content to a competitor when it comes that cheaply? Seemed like a no-brainer to me.
 
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(02-22-2013 08:44 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  Ah, so it's basically the transition tag.

As I said a week or so ago, it makes sense for ESPN. Why give up content to a competitor when it comes that cheaply? Seemed like a no-brainer to me.

Especially when they can then farm the content out to other places and collect money on the back end.

It's a huge win for ESPN -- cheap content for weeknights in the fall (expect a lot of midweek kicks for Big East games) during football season, and lots of basketball they can farm out to the regional netlets where ESPN will make money without even having to send a satellite truck.

Basically, this deal turns the NBE into the "MAC Plus."
 
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I thought I read somewhere that ESPN has to match all components of the contract offered by NBC. So if the NBC contract calls for a certain number of games on the main network, ESPN would have to match that with ABC televising games.

If that is the case, I would anticipate us being on NBC.
 
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(02-22-2013 09:28 AM)Bearcat Otto Wrote:  I thought I read somewhere that ESPN has to match all components of the contract offered by NBC. So if the NBC contract calls for a certain number of games on the main network, ESPN would have to match that with ABC televising games.

If that is the case, I would anticipate us being on NBC.

I think there is a question of fact on this issue. It seems the Big East interprets this way and ESPN interprets it another way. Would not be surprised to see additinal discussions to take place as a result resulting in a few additional bucks to avoid potential litigation.
 
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I really hope that UC has some lawyers working overtime to make sure UC gets their fair share of exit fee money from the teams that left.
 
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(02-22-2013 09:35 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I really hope that UC has some lawyers working overtime to make sure UC gets their fair share of exit fee money from the teams that left.

If we are stuck here, we are going to have to survive off the exit fees to remain competitive with schools in our region (I am not talking about OSU, I am speaking of UofL, Purdue, IU, UK, Pitt, WVU, etc.). You are correct that we need to do whatever we can to maximize the amount $$$ we receive in exit/entrance fees.
 
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What a depressing week, awful TV deal, can't win a basketball game, and the weather sucks.
It's like leaving Ireland after the potato famine for the USA, and you suck so bad in the USA
you go back to Ireland.
 
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I don't know what good it will do, but I feel like voicing my displeasure to Santa/Whit if this ends up on ESPN. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to do it, but it is my personal practice not to do business with anyone that intentionally screws you over.
 
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(02-22-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I don't know what good it will do, but I feel like voicing my displeasure to Santa/Whit if this ends up on ESPN. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to do it, but it is my personal practice not to do business with anyone that intentionally screws you over.

I never watch ESPN anymore, even for live programming, unless UC is playing.
 
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(02-22-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I don't know what good it will do, but I feel like voicing my displeasure to Santa/Whit if this ends up on ESPN. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to do it, but it is my personal practice not to do business with anyone that intentionally screws you over.

Dan Wolken (football writer for USA Today) had this point, though -- Recruits will ask how many times they'll be on ESPN, not how many times they'll be on NBC Sports Network.

The league is going to be irrelevant in terms of TV coverage, but that level of irrelevance will triple if ESPN is freezing the league out of SportsCenter highlights or mentions on ESPN.com because a rival network (with limited brand awareness) is carrying the games.
 
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(02-22-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I don't know what good it will do, but I feel like voicing my displeasure to Santa/Whit if this ends up on ESPN. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to do it, but it is my personal practice not to do business with anyone that intentionally screws you over.

And what would voicing your displeasure to santa/whit do? it's not like espn will care about what 1 AD/pres of a college thinks....

FYI ESPN deal is all but done per ESPN.com
 
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(02-22-2013 12:34 PM)#41 Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I don't know what good it will do, but I feel like voicing my displeasure to Santa/Whit if this ends up on ESPN. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to do it, but it is my personal practice not to do business with anyone that intentionally screws you over.

Dan Wolken (football writer for USA Today) had this point, though -- Recruits will ask how many times they'll be on ESPN, not how many times they'll be on NBC Sports Network.

The league is going to be irrelevant in terms of TV coverage, but that level of irrelevance will triple if ESPN is freezing the league out of SportsCenter highlights or mentions on ESPN.com because a rival network (with limited brand awareness) is carrying the games.

41 i dont agree with you on the issue that they will not get coverage. NBCSN is now on Directv main package so everyone with the basic package will get the games and ESPN will still have to cover the league if there are good teams in it that are getting talked about. How much time do we get now except for them to bad mouth the BE. This is the first year for the NBCSN trying to be a major player so it will grow just like ESPN did back in the 70's and 80's. I remember when ESPN started and they were a joke of a network and the guys on it were jokes and there are a few that are still around. I dont think it will take NBCSN as long now as it did for ESPN to take hold if they get some good games on there station in the next year or so.
 
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^^ If we do go back to ESPN, hopefully the Big East could negotiate some type of Non-Disparagement Clause in the contract saying that ESPN cannot badmouth the conference or any of its members.

(I am talking to you Rod Gilmore)
 
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(02-22-2013 01:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  (I am talking to you Rod Gilmore)

A lot more than just him.
 
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(02-22-2013 01:32 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 01:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  (I am talking to you Rod Gilmore)

A lot more than just him.

Spielman may also need to be in the printed contract.
 
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