(02-20-2013 11:18 PM)Noodles Wrote:  [quote='JMSTiger' pid='8991458' da
I enjoy these gameday threads. Good job, and I hope we beat you Saturday.

Well, if we don't, Memphis wraps up the regular season title.

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

Yes, yes, it is. Seeing how Tulsa and ECU are both 6-6, they are tied for fifth.

I understand that ECU beat Tulsa, which will give the Pirates the tiebreaker if they finish the season tied. But for now, they are both in fifth.

(02-20-2013 11:47 PM)jobu Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

Yes, yes, it is. Seeing how Tulsa and ECU are both 6-6, they are tied for fifth.

I understand that ECU beat Tulsa, which will give the Pirates the tiebreaker if they finish the season tied. But for now, they are both in fifth.

They are tied for 5th place in conf but ECU would be the 4 seed based on tie breakers, if the tourney started today. UCF is ineligible.

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

They are tied for 5th. No reason to worry about tiebreakers until the final standings.

(02-21-2013 12:12 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

They are tied for 5th. No reason to worry about tiebreakers until the final standings.

Unless you want to know who's in 5th right now. ECU controls their destiny in the battle for fifth; Tulsa does not.

Tulane mid pack feels nice

(02-21-2013 12:15 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:12 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

They are tied for 5th. No reason to worry about tiebreakers until the final standings.

Unless you want to know who's in 5th right now. ECU controls their destiny in the battle for fifth; Tulsa does not.

Both have first round byes as of right now because UCF is ineligible, so it is kind of pointless. They will just end up playing each other again in the second round, if things hold true through the end of the season. Gonna be hard to beat Tulsa at home twice.

(02-20-2013 11:08 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:05 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 10:43 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 10:39 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 10:30 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Our record would be inflated too if we got to play all the western teams twice and not the east.

? Memphis is not in the West.

Nope, which is why we play them twice every year.

Well now I'm just confused. The guy you quoted is a Memphis fan.

*Just when you think Tulsa is about to really get on a roll, they drop a game to a team you would think they could handle at home.

He thought Tulsa should handle us based on their winning streak. Our record would be significantly better if we didn't have to play in the East. I think Memphis, UCF, and USM are 3 of the top 5 most talented teams in the league.

Ok got you. Sorry I'm a little slow tonight.

I don't know what the line was but I would have said it was about a toss up. Not overly offended that he thought Tulsa should win but I get where you are coming from. At the same time Tulsa has yet to play either SMU or Rice (the bottom 2 teams from the west) a second time yet. We have played UCF and Memphis twice each were they have played UTEP twice so we played a tougher schedule there. We have each played USM once.

I personally think ECU is underrated this year but I have seen every game. For a Memphis fan who has maybe only seen us lose to them by double digits each time I could maybe see it. Though Memphis beat Tulsa by ~30

Memphis clinches the regular season crown and the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney with a win saturday at home against Southern Miss.

i gotta say that i am disappointed in SMU this season.

(02-21-2013 12:28 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis clinches the regular season crown and the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney with a win saturday at home against Southern Miss.

Is there an echo in here?

(02-21-2013 12:15 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:12 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

They are tied for 5th. No reason to worry about tiebreakers until the final standings.

Unless you want to know who's in 5th right now. ECU controls their destiny in the battle for fifth; Tulsa does not.

Understood. I am just presenting the standings without worrying about tiebreakers and such. I think everyone understands after tonight that 6-6 ECU leads 6-6 Tulsa as far as seeding for the conference tournament.

(02-21-2013 12:33 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:28 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis clinches the regular season crown and the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney with a win saturday at home against Southern Miss.

Is there an echo in here?

IS there an echo in here?

(02-21-2013 12:29 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  i gotta say that i am disappointed in SMU this season.

Based on his history, I wonder how committed Larry B. is to the program. I know he's not there long term, but I thought he'd probably be around for 3 years or so. I'd like to see him build a solid foundation for a young coach to build from, and he can still do that.

(02-21-2013 12:40 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:29 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  i gotta say that i am disappointed in SMU this season.

Based on his history, I wonder how committed Larry B. is to the program. I know he's not there long term, but I thought he'd probably be around for 3 years or so. I'd like to see him build a solid foundation for a young coach to build from, and he can still do that.

i agree. Although with his age and history, 3 years is a long time for Larry.

(02-21-2013 12:34 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:15 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:12 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Conference USA Standings (after action from Wednesday 02-20-13)
1. #21/#19 Memphis...12-0...23-3...Sat game: Southern Miss (10-2)
2. Southern Miss...10-2...21-6...Sat game: @ #21/#19 Memphis (12-0)
3. UCF...7-5...17-9...Sat game: Tulsa (6-6)
3. UTEP...7-5...14-11...Sat game: @ New Mexico State
5. East Carolina...6-6...15-10...Sat game: @ SMU (3-8)
5. Tulsa...6-6...14-12...Sat game: @ UCF (7-5)
7. Tulane...5-6...17-9...Sat game: @ Rice (1-10)
8. Marshall...5-7...12-15...Sat game: UAB (4-7)
9. UAB...4-7...12-14...Sat game: @ Marshall (5-7)
10. Houston...4-8...15-10...Sat game: OFF
11. SMU...3-8...13-13...Sat game: East Carolina (6-6)
12. Rice...1-10...5-20...Sat game: Tulane (5-6)

Small point, but Tulsa is not in 5th place.

They are tied for 5th. No reason to worry about tiebreakers until the final standings.

Unless you want to know who's in 5th right now. ECU controls their destiny in the battle for fifth; Tulsa does not.

Understood. I am just presenting the standings without worrying about tiebreakers and such. I think everyone understands after tonight that 6-6 ECU leads 6-6 Tulsa as far as seeding for the conference tournament.

I can accept the way you are listing it. I wouldn't want to compute the tiebreakers after each game night. But understand that you shouldn't argue with someone who brings up the tiebreaker issue. It is a valid argument.

(02-21-2013 12:34 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:33 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:28 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis clinches the regular season crown and the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney with a win saturday at home against Southern Miss.

Is there an echo in here?

IS there an echo in here?

Now you've echoed me twice!

(02-21-2013 12:42 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:40 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 12:29 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  i gotta say that i am disappointed in SMU this season.

Based on his history, I wonder how committed Larry B. is to the program. I know he's not there long term, but I thought he'd probably be around for 3 years or so. I'd like to see him build a solid foundation for a young coach to build from, and he can still do that.

i agree. Although with his age and history, 3 years is a long time for Larry.

It's a long time for me at my age. My plans are more defined in months than years. :)

Updated RPI after tonight's action:

**Current RPI of each member of Conference USA**
(in parenthesis is each team’s record vs. Division 1 opponents only)
-Memphis (23-3, 12-0): #20 (SOS: #83)
-Southern Mississippi (19-6, 10-2): #36 (SOS: #100)
-UTEP (14-11, 7-5): #95 (SOS: #68)
-UCF (16-9, 7-5): #107 (SOS: #125)
-East Carolina (11-10, 6-6): #110 (SOS: #81)
-Tulsa (13-12, 6-6): #123 (SOS: #113)
-Tulane (16-9, 5-6): #151 (SOS: #222)
-UAB (11-14, 4-7): #169 (SOS: #108)
-Marshall (11-15, 5-7): #184 (SOS: #102)
-SMU (12-13, 3-8): #199 (SOS: #225)
-Houston (14-10, 4-8): #204 (SOS: #294)
-Rice (4-19, 1-10): #312 (SOS: #142)

(02-21-2013 01:39 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Updated RPI after tonight's action:

**Current RPI of each member of Conference USA**
(in parenthesis is each team’s record vs. Division 1 opponents only)
-Memphis (23-3, 12-0): #20 (SOS: #83)
-Southern Mississippi (19-6, 10-2): #36 (SOS: #100)
-UTEP (14-11, 7-5): #95 (SOS: #68)
-UCF (16-9, 7-5): #107 (SOS: #125)
-East Carolina (11-10, 6-6): #110 (SOS: #81)
-Tulsa (13-12, 6-6): #123 (SOS: #113)
-Tulane (16-9, 5-6): #151 (SOS: #222)
-UAB (11-14, 4-7): #169 (SOS: #108)
-Marshall (11-15, 5-7): #184 (SOS: #102)
-SMU (12-13, 3-8): #199 (SOS: #225)
-Houston (14-10, 4-8): #204 (SOS: #294)
-Rice (4-19, 1-10): #312 (SOS: #142)

ECU closing in on 3rd place.