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Granted, this is a cool video, but what is with all the lies and fraud in this video from Toledo Football.

Exhibit 1 - Claims as being the MAC's most winning program all-time. WRONG, not even close, your lucky to be 4th.

Exhibit 2 - Claims 16 MAC Titles and Most in the MAC. What?? You have 10, TEN !!!

Toledo Football Recruits need to know the truth.

Potential Toledo Recruits - Toledo is NOT the most winning program of all time (0:26 mark in video) - It is MIAMI UNIVERSITY (in fact Central Michigan and BOWLING GREEN also has a higher winning percentage and more MAC wins)
http://www.mac-sports.com/Portals/20/201...ecords.pdf


Toledo does not have 16 MAC titles (1:28 mark in video) nor do they have most in the MAC - It is MIAMI UNIVERSITY
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/champions_mac.html

disgusting, I haven't checked what other lies Toledo is claiming but the first two stuck out like a sore thumb... 03-puke

http://www.footballscoop.com/news/8958-v...experience
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Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...
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(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category
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We should all just make up whatever numbers we want.

Miami, 10,987 MAC titles, never lost a MAC game!!!
Ohio U, 2012 MAC Champs!
Akron, also 2012 MAC Champs and 9,055 MAC titles!!
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(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category

The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock
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(02-19-2013 11:49 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category

The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock

It is a cool video, Kudos for that. Great promo (just false)
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(02-19-2013 11:52 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:49 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category

The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock

It is a cool video, Kudos for that. Great promo (just false)

BTW, they said you can bet that recruits have seen that video. I have to assume that video was made for recruits.

Also, I have to admit that you made me chuckle with this one. "Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving." +1 for that.
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(02-19-2013 11:54 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:52 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:49 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category

The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock

It is a cool video, Kudos for that. Great promo (just false)

BTW, they said you can bet that recruits have seen that video. I have to assume that video was made for recruits.

Exactly, it was made to lie to recruits.
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(02-19-2013 11:56 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:54 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:52 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:49 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Toledo is most overrated MAC program. Last MAC Championship for Toledo was 2004. That video was full of deceit and lies. There is no category all-time past, or recent that Toledo is #1 in anything when it comes to MAC football. Just think they should be called out as it is so blatant. Not one category except maybe scandals and point shaving.

Pick your timeframe. 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or all-time. They dont lead the MAC in any category yet they claimed it in that video.

MAC titles? Nope
MAC wins? Nope
Overall winning percent both in conference and out? Nope
Total wins? Nope

They arent even close in any category

The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock

It is a cool video, Kudos for that. Great promo (just false)

BTW, they said you can bet that recruits have seen that video. I have to assume that video was made for recruits.

Exactly, it was made to lie to recruits.

Haven't we all fibbed a little here and there in our lifetime? It's only bad if the outcome is negative. In this case, they get to become Rockets, so everyone wins. 03-cloud9
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(02-20-2013 12:00 AM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:56 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:54 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:52 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 11:49 PM)Campbell4President Wrote:  The real story is that is a sweet video. We were talking about it the other day on our board and we knew it was awesome but I didn't realize it was football news on footballscoop.com sweet. Go Rockets! 04-rock

It is a cool video, Kudos for that. Great promo (just false)

BTW, they said you can bet that recruits have seen that video. I have to assume that video was made for recruits.

Exactly, it was made to lie to recruits.

Haven't we all fibbed a little here and there in our lifetime? It's only bad if the outcome is negative. In this case, they get to become Rockets, so everyone wins. 03-cloud9

LOL, +1
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In all seriousness, does anyone know where to go to get a list of MAC championships by team? I watched that video the other day and bought what it was selling but after reading these, I'm curious. It may be on mac-sports but I'm not finding it.
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(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

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(02-19-2013 11:18 PM)NIUBIGGS Wrote:  Gas at one time was 99 cents a gallon...

I remember when it was 87 cents a gallon. Lol


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(02-20-2013 12:11 AM)Campbell4President Wrote:  In all seriousness, does anyone know where to go to get a list of MAC championships by team? I watched that video the other day and bought what it was selling but after reading these, I'm curious. It may be on mac-sports but I'm not finding it.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/champions_mac.html


MAC CHAMPIONS
Year Team Record
1947 Cincinnati 3-1-0
1948 Miami 4-0-0
1949 Cincinnati 4-0-0
1950 Miami 4-0-0
1951 Cincinnati 3-0-0
1952 Cincinnati 3-0-0
1953 Ohio 5-0-1
1954 Miami 4-0-0
1955 Miami 5-0-0
1956 Bowling Green 5-0-1
1957 Miami 5-0-0
1958 Miami 5-0-0
1959 Bowling Green 6-0-0
1960 Ohio 6-0-0
1961 Bowling Green 5-0-0
1962 Bowling Green 5-0-1
1963 Ohio 5-1-0
1964 Bowling Green 5-1-0
1965 Bowling Green
Miami 5-1-0
5-1-0
1966 Miami
Western Michigan 5-1-0
5-1-0
1967 Ohio
Toledo 5-1-0
5-1-0
1968 Ohio 6-0-0
1969 Toledo 5-0-0
1970 Toledo 5-0-0
1971 Toledo 5-0-0
1972 Kent St. 4-1-0
1973 Miami 5-0-0
1974 Miami 5-0-0
1975 Miami 6-0-0
1976 Ball St. 4-1-0
1977 Miami 5-0-0
1978 Ball St. 8-0-0
1979 Central Michigan 8-0-1
1980 Central Michigan 7-2-0
1981 Toledo 8-1-0
1982 Bowling Green 7-2-0
1983 Northern Illinois 8-1-0
1984 Toledo 7-1-1
1985 Bowling Green 9-0-0
1986 Miami 6-2-0
1987 Eastern Michigan 7-1-0
1988 Western Michigan 7-1-0
1989 Ball St. 6-1-1
1990 Central Michigan
Toledo 7-1-0
7-1-0
1991 Bowling Green 8-0-0
1992 Bowling Green 8-0-0
1993 Ball St. 7-0-1
1994 Central Michigan 8-1-0
1995 Toledo 7-0-1
1996 Ball St. 7-1
1997 Marshall 7-1
1998 Marshall 7-1
1999 Marshall 8-0
2000 Marshall 5-3
2001 Toledo 5-2
2002 Marshall 7-1
2003 Miami 8-0
2004 Toledo 7-1
2005 Akron 5-3
2006 Central Michigan 7-1
2007 Central Michigan 6-1
2008 Buffalo 5-3
2009 Central Michigan 8-0
2010 Miami 7-1
2011 Northern Illinois 7-1
2012 Northern Illinois 8-0
NOTE: Records are regular season conference records.
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I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.
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(02-20-2013 06:09 AM)Falcon1407 Wrote:  I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.

Shoulda used a BG engineering student.
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(02-20-2013 06:59 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:09 AM)Falcon1407 Wrote:  I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.

Shoulda used a BG engineering student.

Why are all the jokes from U[sic]Toledo reminiscent of dumb 4th graders?
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(02-20-2013 07:06 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:59 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:09 AM)Falcon1407 Wrote:  I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.

Shoulda used a BG engineering student.

Why are all the jokes from U[sic]Toledo reminiscent of dumb 4th graders?

But the one from the BG student was certainly a clever quip, no? And castration jokes are always hilarious. Quit whining.
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(02-20-2013 07:26 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 07:06 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:59 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:09 AM)Falcon1407 Wrote:  I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.

Shoulda used a BG engineering student.

Why are all the jokes from U[sic]Toledo reminiscent of dumb 4th graders?

But the one from the BG student was certainly a clever quip, no?

Cliche, but not out of line.

Quote: And castration jokes are always hilarious. Quit whining.

I just want Toledo fans to step up their game. You're embarassing the rest of the conference. You already have Leo Buscaglia and Stuart Smalley posting here, you've got to make up ground.
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(02-20-2013 08:12 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 07:26 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 07:06 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:59 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(02-20-2013 06:09 AM)Falcon1407 Wrote:  I'm not surprised. A UT student probably did the research and math for the video.

Shoulda used a BG engineering student.

Why are all the jokes from U[sic]Toledo reminiscent of dumb 4th graders?

But the one from the BG student was certainly a clever quip, no?

Cliche, but not out of line.

Quote: And castration jokes are always hilarious. Quit whining.

I just want Toledo fans to step up their game. You're embarassing the rest of the conference. You already have Leo Buscaglia and Stuart Smalley posting here, you've got to make up ground.

Well, I'll grant you the "Stanfraud" thing was a real rip-snorter. No fourth grader would come up with that. Raised the Conference humor RPI into the mid 300s!
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