(02-19-2013 09:30 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:49 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:32 PM)ninernation1989 Wrote:  Now cincy and uconn to acc and big east picks from cusa

Very doubtful that the Big East picks from CUSA again. Tulsa....maybe if they want in for academic reasons. Presidents call the shots. Outside of that, I cant imagine anyone making a lateral move to a conference that is likely to pay only 250K more. Especially considering the CUSA buyout and the cost of the Big East entry fee. If these reports are true then UCONN and or Cincy is likely headed to the ACC and that would even further reduce the Big East TV deal.


At some point, I think the Big East will go back to their roots and pick up some of that lost presence in the North East. Buffalo and a fledgling UMASS would probably fit the bill. Losing Syracuse was huge and losing UCONN will be huge as well. Another thing to remember is that neither Buffalo or UMass would have to pay much of an exit fee as part of the Mac.

Not sure where that number is coming from. Bottom line, if conference armageddon comes all sorts of unforseen stuff could happen.

...Numbers pulled out of a hat....this is going to get crazy ugly soon...but I do agree with him that NO WAY SHOULD USM MAKE ANY KIND OF A MOVE (or any other candidate) meaning that CUSA is not an option....let the nBE starve and see what happens. The MWC and CUSA are now in a position of power. Don't fk it up this time Banowsky. This could turn out to be the crayfishing of the boil.

That's not numbers pulled out of a hat....its numbers quoted from ESPN.

You're right...they control the world...no sarcasm this time and didn't know that....they are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

(02-19-2013 09:39 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:30 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:49 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Very doubtful that the Big East picks from CUSA again. Tulsa....maybe if they want in for academic reasons. Presidents call the shots. Outside of that, I cant imagine anyone making a lateral move to a conference that is likely to pay only 250K more. Especially considering the CUSA buyout and the cost of the Big East entry fee. If these reports are true then UCONN and or Cincy is likely headed to the ACC and that would even further reduce the Big East TV deal.


At some point, I think the Big East will go back to their roots and pick up some of that lost presence in the North East. Buffalo and a fledgling UMASS would probably fit the bill. Losing Syracuse was huge and losing UCONN will be huge as well. Another thing to remember is that neither Buffalo or UMass would have to pay much of an exit fee as part of the Mac.

Not sure where that number is coming from. Bottom line, if conference armageddon comes all sorts of unforseen stuff could happen.

...Numbers pulled out of a hat....this is going to get crazy ugly soon...but I do agree with him that NO WAY SHOULD USM MAKE ANY KIND OF A MOVE (or any other candidate) meaning that CUSA is not an option....let the nBE starve and see what happens. The MWC and CUSA are now in a position of power. Don't fk it up this time Banowsky. This could turn out to be the crayfishing of the boil.

That's not numbers pulled out of a hat....its numbers quoted from ESPN.

You're right...they control the world...no sarcasm this time and didn't know that....they are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

This sh!t changes on a daily basis so I didn't know if you were being serious or not!....LOL

(02-19-2013 09:09 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It never ceases to amaze me the stupid **** people post here. As if the Big East would be more palatable to UConn with USM in the league.......

WTF??? Don't paint us into your mess.

(02-19-2013 09:54 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:39 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:30 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Not sure where that number is coming from. Bottom line, if conference armageddon comes all sorts of unforseen stuff could happen.

...Numbers pulled out of a hat....this is going to get crazy ugly soon...but I do agree with him that NO WAY SHOULD USM MAKE ANY KIND OF A MOVE (or any other candidate) meaning that CUSA is not an option....let the nBE starve and see what happens. The MWC and CUSA are now in a position of power. Don't fk it up this time Banowsky. This could turn out to be the crayfishing of the boil.

That's not numbers pulled out of a hat....its numbers quoted from ESPN.

You're right...they control the world...no sarcasm this time and didn't know that....they are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

This **** changes on a daily basis so I didn't know if you were being serious or not!....LOL

yep.... time for a

As i age, I realize that common sense has been rendered toxic in college football and only believe what happened yesterday.

ECU to the ACC!


LOL....crazy is fun.

I would give my view of what will happen eventually in college football but nobody will believe it and since it would take years and years to come about, and I am too old to see it through, I will just say that college football is headed down a path I think will only get worse before it gets better.

(02-19-2013 11:20 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  ECU to the ACC!


LOL....crazy is fun.

I am going to see if this sticks.....nBE will become the BEACC....prounounced bee-ackkkk...like the drunk guy down the street saying, "honey, I am beeackkkk...are ya ready for some lovn'?"

Now this source of this stuff is backing off and saying UNC is not Big Ten bound.

UNC is in a situation where they are the administrative top dogs in the conference and they're the type of people who value power over money.

(02-20-2013 12:10 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  UNC is in a situation where they are the administrative top dogs in the conference and they're the type of people who value power over money.

Like ND and BYU whose armor has shown vulnerability to greed?? Everything has a price.

BIG commish Delaney is a UNC alum.

Unless a team like FSU or Clemson were to go with UVA, they won't be leaving. That's the sense I've gotten from their fanbase.

Guys, the only real Armageddon scenario revolves around UNC... but I doubt that UVA would leave UNC behind. Just as I doubt that UNC would be allowed to leave NCSU behind.

As for GT, I have no idea. Has anyone thought about the possibility of the SEC getting raided for Florida? They would make for a good travel companion for GT. If that were to occur, FSU could slide into Florida's spot in the SEC.

Yep. I think the people who claim UVA is going B1G don't know what they're talking about. Of course they are interested in UVA and UNC but they won't be leaving the ACC.

(02-20-2013 12:15 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-20-2013 12:10 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  UNC is in a situation where they are the administrative top dogs in the conference and they're the type of people who value power over money.

Like ND and BYU whose armor has shown vulnerability to greed?? Everything has a price.

ND was never married to the Big East and BYU didn't wield UNC type power over the MW. Plus their big tie to the MW, Utah, isn't there any more.

(02-19-2013 09:29 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 09:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:49 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:32 PM)ninernation1989 Wrote:  Now cincy and uconn to acc and big east picks from cusa

Very doubtful that the Big East picks from CUSA again. Tulsa....maybe if they want in for academic reasons. Presidents call the shots. Outside of that, I cant imagine anyone making a lateral move to a conference that is likely to pay only 250K more. Especially considering the CUSA buyout and the cost of the Big East entry fee. If these reports are true then UCONN and or Cincy is likely headed to the ACC and that would even further reduce the Big East TV deal.


At some point, I think the Big East will go back to their roots and pick up some of that lost presence in the North East. Buffalo and a fledgling UMASS would probably fit the bill. Losing Syracuse was huge and losing UCONN will be huge as well. Another thing to remember is that neither Buffalo or UMass would have to pay much of an exit fee as part of the Mac.

Not sure where that number is coming from. Bottom line, if conference armageddon comes all sorts of unforseen stuff could happen.

I was pulling that based off the recent ESPN article citing sources from CBS sports:

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/i...-nbc-offer

NBC Sports Network has verbally offered the Big East between $20 million and $23 million per year for six years to acquire the league's media rights, sources told ESPN.


Assuming that number is on the high side at $23 Million that is roughly 1.9 Million per team for a 12 team league. Quote me if I'm wrong but doesn't each team in CUSA take in roughly $1.7 Mill per team?

FWIW--The newest nBE numbers came from Sports Business Journal. They say 25 million from NBC and 2-4 from CBS for a total of 27 to 29. Thats 2.7 to 2.9 a year for a 10 team league. I seriously doubt Navys is coming for that, so I suspect Tulsa will be staying in CUSA (unless the Big-10 decides to get agressive). I may be wrong on Navy, but I doubt it. I suspect nBE will stay at 10 teams if Navy isnt coming.

CUSA has a 7 million dollar a year contract from Fox and another 7 million dollar contract with CBS-Sports for a total of 14 million a year in media revenue. With 14 teams, the media earnings for CUSA teams should be around 1 million a year. Assuming the Sports Business Journal is in the ball park--the difference in media earning will be about 1.7 to 1.9 million a year. Each school would have to consider exit fees, entry fees, stability risks, and travel costs to determine for themselves if thats enough of a difference to jump. Worst case senario for the nBE is reloading with Sunbelt teams who would jump in a heartbeat. I think SB teams only earn about $20K a year in media money and are in an unstable situation already. They have little to lose. I suppose that option would depend on how desperate the nBE was.

The fact is no one knows what the final numbers of the nBE TV contract. Completely speculative at the moment.

(02-20-2013 12:59 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  Guys, the only real Armageddon scenario revolves around UNC... but I doubt that UVA would leave UNC behind. Just as I doubt that UNC would be allowed to leave NCSU behind.

As for GT, I have no idea. Has anyone thought about the possibility of the SEC getting raided for Florida? They would make for a good travel companion for GT. If that were to occur, FSU could slide into Florida's spot in the SEC.

Yep...For the ACC to be destroyed it would have to come from within and UNC has controlled the Tobacco Road mafia for decades. They leave and it is party over for the ACC. NCST would immediately sell their momma to get into the SEC along with VT and every other school would be scrambling, leaving some of the old Big East Schools left to do business under the ACC banner. I imagine the Big 12 would be standing there with open arms for FSU, Clemson and anything else they could get their hands on. Would be interesting to see who would want Duke as basically a Basketball only private school. Wake would be completely screwed in this deal but would probably find a home with the ACC/BE leftovers.
The expansion moves up to this point have been shocking at times but to see the ACC completley blown apart would be by far the most shocking thing to happen in our expansion era and this comes from a ECU fan who would not walk across to the street to piss on the ACC if it was on fire.

(02-19-2013 07:32 PM)ninernation1989 Wrote:  Now cincy and uconn to acc and big east picks from cusa

If UConn gets in Fla state, Clemson and Ga. Tech will look to bail.

(02-19-2013 07:24 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  This stuff is so far from over.....

"So why does this matter to UConn fans? Because anything that destabilizes the rest of college athletics increases the chance that someone (i.e. the ACC) could come calling to backfill their league and rescue UConn from the hell that the new Big East has become."

http://www.theuconnblog.com/2013/2/19/40...in/3770283

And it increases your chance of movin on up to the east side.