The 2012 year has proven to be a fruitful one for the Bearcat athletics department. The university has not only produced productive athletes, but productive students as well. Over 60% of Bearcat athletes have a 3.0 or high GPA.


http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/academi...13aab.html

First of all, I am glad to see that. Athletics at a university is hard, time consuming work that can make keeping your academic up very difficult.

I know that is how universities rate the academic work of their athletes, but I would love to know (from every university) how many of their athletes are in hard majors (engineering, DAAP, etc.) versus soft ones (criminal justice, athletic training, underwater basket weaving).

I know their is no good way of measuring that, but I used to cringe in the Huggins years when every basketball player was a criminal justice major. I had a friend who went through the criminal justice undergrad program at the time and it was barely high school level work.

I think UC has stepped up their Criminal Justice department. The Division of Criminal Justice was ranked #1 nationally in terms of research productivity, according to the Journal of Criminal Justice. U.S. News & World Report ranks the Division of Criminal Justice’s doctoral program as the #3 program in the nation. That being said, those are graduate level figures and I doubt any of the athles are taking any of the hard stuff.

I took two criminal justice classes that were online after I graduated because I needed the extra credit hours to be able to sit for the CPA exam. They were a total joke.

(02-15-2013 10:37 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  First of all, I am glad to see that. Athletics at a university is hard, time consuming work that can make keeping your academic up very difficult.

I know that is how universities rate the academic work of their athletes, but I would love to know (from every university) how many of their athletes are in hard majors (engineering, DAAP, etc.) versus soft ones (criminal justice, athletic training, underwater basket weaving).

I know their is no good way of measuring that, but I used to cringe in the Huggins years when every basketball player was a criminal justice major. I had a friend who went through the criminal justice undergrad program at the time and it was barely high school level work.

Athletes like Roger McClendon who majored in Engineering are VERY few in number. The vast majority of D1 athletes in men's basketball and football would have zero chance of getting in college if it were not for their athletic ability.

The sad thing is that the NCAA hangs their hat on the quid pro quo of not paying athletes in exchange for an education. When one looks at the earning power of D1 football players and men's basketball players who do not make it into pro sports, my guess is that it is very meager. The quid pro quo simply isn't there.

Something that always perplexed me is how athletes at Duke, X, et al can graduate in three years with an SAT score that is almost half of a "regular student" and the really smart kids take 4, 5, or 6 years to graduate. That makes it very obvious that the proven quality of education for those athletes simply does not exist. In the end, they are severely cheated.

(02-15-2013 11:15 AM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 10:37 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  First of all, I am glad to see that. Athletics at a university is hard, time consuming work that can make keeping your academic up very difficult.

I know that is how universities rate the academic work of their athletes, but I would love to know (from every university) how many of their athletes are in hard majors (engineering, DAAP, etc.) versus soft ones (criminal justice, athletic training, underwater basket weaving).

I know their is no good way of measuring that, but I used to cringe in the Huggins years when every basketball player was a criminal justice major. I had a friend who went through the criminal justice undergrad program at the time and it was barely high school level work.

Athletes like Roger McClendon who majored in Engineering are VERY few in number. The vast majority of D1 athletes in men's basketball and football would have zero chance of getting in college if it were not for their athletic ability.

The sad thing is that the NCAA hangs their hat on the quid pro quo of not paying athletes in exchange for an education. When one looks at the earning power of D1 football players and men's basketball players who do not make it into pro sports, my guess is that it is very meager. The quid pro quo simply isn't there.

Something that always perplexed me is how athletes at Duke, X, et al can graduate in three years with an SAT score that is almost half of a "regular student" and the really smart kids take 4, 5, or 6 years to graduate. That makes it very obvious that the proven quality of education for those athletes simply does not exist. In the end, they are severely cheated.

I've noticed that almost all the dook basketball players major in sociology. I remember an article a few years back where one of their players(Boozer?) basically earned 16-20 hours of credit in six weeks of summer school. Of course, he was also out of the country playing basketball on a European tour at the time.

(02-15-2013 10:37 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  First of all, I am glad to see that. Athletics at a university is hard, time consuming work that can make keeping your academic up very difficult.

I know that is how universities rate the academic work of their athletes, but I would love to know (from every university) how many of their athletes are in hard majors (engineering, DAAP, etc.) versus soft ones (criminal justice, athletic training, underwater basket weaving).

I know their is no good way of measuring that, but I used to cringe in the Huggins years when every basketball player was a criminal justice major. I had a friend who went through the criminal justice undergrad program at the time and it was barely high school level work.

The majority of our basketball players are criminal justice majors. Eppensteiner is a business major, and I think at least one player is majoring in psychology.

A large number of Olympic sport athletes are Sport Administration majors now.

(02-15-2013 11:15 AM)QSECOFR Wrote:  Something that always perplexed me is how athletes at Duke, X, et al can graduate in three years with an SAT score that is almost half of a "regular student" and the really smart kids take 4, 5, or 6 years to graduate. That makes it very obvious that the proven quality of education for those athletes simply does not exist. In the end, they are severely cheated.

A lot of student athletes are taking summer courses which is why they can graduate relatively quickly.

To say the NCAA shouldn't pay players because they're getting a free education is not exactly accurate. The opportunity for a free education, maybe, but they're not getting an education. At lease most aren't.

(02-15-2013 11:15 AM)QSECOFR Wrote:  Athletes like Roger McClendon who majored in Engineering are VERY few in number. The vast majority of D1 athletes in men's basketball and football would have zero chance of getting in college if it were not for their athletic ability.

Roger McClendon was in my Engineering classes, at least at first. I had Chemistry and a couple of other courses with him.

Didn't see him much later on because he slowly fell behind the rest of us because he could not both complete a full engineering class schedule and play basketball.

Still my favorite Bearcat of all time because he was "the man" during my college years.

(02-15-2013 10:37 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  First of all, I am glad to see that. Athletics at a university is hard, time consuming work that can make keeping your academic up very difficult.

I know that is how universities rate the academic work of their athletes, but I would love to know (from every university) how many of their athletes are in hard majors (engineering, DAAP, etc.) versus soft ones (criminal justice, athletic training, underwater basket weaving).

I know their is no good way of measuring that, but I used to cringe in the Huggins years when every basketball player was a criminal justice major. I had a friend who went through the criminal justice undergrad program at the time and it was barely high school level work.

That sounds pretty difficult, I'd classify that as a hard major.

AT LEAST UC PLAYERS GO TO CLASS most for 2 to 4 years. At UK They play one semester where they actually go to class
then they start a 2nd one, but leave asap when the last game is over and never finish even one year. The system allows it ,so nothing Uk is doing wrong just..... The classes they take would make you sick if you saw them! Just sayin!

More power to them, I blame the rule more than the kids themselves...

Personally, I am glad that the grad rate among athletes at UC is not 100%. That tells me that UC still has some integrity when it comes to academics.

Sub, as for summer classes, I do realize that. However, I have to believe that basketball players would be incapable of getting a "real degree" at Duke no matter how long they try. It is my understanding that the average Duke student has an incoming SAT score of over 1500 -- Duke basketball players somewhere between 850 and 900. Summer school simply can't make up for the disparity in ability.

Football: 32 UC players make Big East All-Academic team
02/15/13 at 3:42pm by Tom Groeschen

From the UC sports communications office:

Thirty-two University of Cincinnati student-athletes earned spots on the 2012 Big East Conference All-Academic Football Team, the league office announced Friday.

The 32 Bearcats, most for any conference squad, were among 207 student-athletes league wide who achieved a cumulative GPA of 3.0 or above after completing a minimum of two semesters of academic work.

Drew Frey (Wilmington, Ohio/Clinton-Massie) and Dan Giordano (Frankfort, Ill./Lincoln-Way East) earned their fourth all-academic honors while Austen Bujnoch (Cincinnati, Ohio/Elder), Sean Hooey (Litchfield, Mich./Hillsdale), Colin Lozier (Cincinnati, Ohio/Colerain), Pat O’Donnell (Lakeworth, Fla./Palm Beach Central), Demetrius Richardson (Marlton, N.J./Cherokee/USMAPS) and George Winn (Southfield, Mich./University of Detroit Jesuit) snagged accolades for the third time.

UC ended the season with a 10-3 mark and a share of the BIG EAST Championship, finishing No. 22 in the USA Today Coaches Poll.

The full list of honorees:

CINCINNATI (32) Pos Cl Hometown Major

Mason Antoun WR Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Psychology

Camaron Beard DL So. Indianapolis, Ind. Political Science

Austen Bujnoch OL Jr. Cincinnati, Ohio History

Derek Cox DB Jr. Mason, Ohio Finance

Adam Dempsey DL Sr. Fort Thomas, Ky. Operations Management

Conner Donnini DL Fr Dayton, Ohio Marketing

Eric Ernst P Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Sport Administration

Adam Fearing RB Sr. Dayton, Ohio Marketing

Drew Frey DB Sr. Wilmington, Ohio Architectural Engineering Technology

Dan Giordano DL Sr. Frankfort, Ill. Accounting

Jared Golden TE Fr. Gallipolis, Ohio Organizational Leadership

Brad Harrah DL So. Marion, Ohio Sport Administration

Sean Hooey OL Sr. Litchfield, Mich. Marketing

Nick Hunt K Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Graphic Communication & Design

Kevin Hyland LB Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Marketing

Cory Keebler OL So. Liberty Township, Ohio Finance

Eric Lefeld OL So. Coldwater, Ohio Finance

John Lloyd P So. Cincinnati, Ohio Marketing

Colin Lozier LB Sr. Cincinnati, Ohio Psychology

Jordan Luallen LB Jr. Greenwood, Ind. Entrepreneurship

Jeff Luc LB Jr. Port St. Lucie, Fla. Criminal Justice

Breon Mapp DB Jr. Cincinnati, Ohio Health Education

Mitch Meador DL Jr. Greenwood, Ind. Organizational Leaderhsip

Tony Miliano K So. North Bend, Ohio Finance

Justin Murray OL Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Criminal Justice

Pat O’Donnell P Jr. Lakeworth, Fla. Organizational Leadership

Demetrius Richardson TE Sr. Marlton, N.J. Criminal Justice

Sean Smith K So. Cincinnati, Ohio Mechanical Engineering Technology

Matt Staubach TE Fr. Cincinnati, Ohio Exploratory

Kirk Willis LS Fr. Granville, Ohio Sport Administration

George Winn RB Sr. Southfield, Mich. Paralegal Studies

Adrian Witty DB So. Deerfield Beach, Fla. Criminal Justice

I only counted 4 with Criminal Justice. Nice going, Bearcats!

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2013/02/1...emic-team/