(02-09-2013 11:58 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  WVU now makes more money per year than the entire Big East

Because the ink's dry on the deal, right? I know you're comfortable in this kind of environment, but go laugh in someone else's burning trailer park.

You would think UConn and Cincy to C7 would now be on the table. If they vote with the C7, they could dissolve the BE. If they do that, then Conference America might not let them in as football only and they may be forced to go MAC for football.. If they don't vote with the C7 on dissolving maybe they won't let them in.

(02-10-2013 02:34 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  You would think UConn and Cincy to C7 would now be on the table. If they vote with the C7, they could dissolve the BE. If they do that, then Conference America might not let them in as football only and they may be forced to go MAC for football.. If they don't vote with the C7 on dissolving maybe they won't let them in.

Cinci and UConn would make more money doing a C-7/Mountain West combo. Those two could also consider a C-7/CUSA set-up. Both would pay more than playing all sports in the nBE or placing football in the MAC. Shocking that the MW contract would be higher than ours considering the MW first tier rights and much of thier second tier rights are still valued at the original 6 year old contract price. I tend to think this number probably is for a package of games or tier of rights, but is not representative of a bid for the entire NBE rights package.

This sounds really bad.

Considering what CUSA 1.0 is getting, that is what you get as CUSA wannabe.

(02-10-2013 12:55 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 12:19 AM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(02-09-2013 11:06 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(02-09-2013 09:08 PM)S11 Wrote:  1- Let's see if Fox, ESPN, or others counterbid.

2- If this is that low CUSA is getting slashed.

How does CUSA gets mentioned in this topic?

Because the majority of people commiting on this topic are CUSA posters. They would give their left nut to see the BE fail or something negative effect them.

That is a tired statement. Can't we be a little more original.

Actually it's pretty true just like your a UAB fan.

(02-10-2013 02:51 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 02:34 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  You would think UConn and Cincy to C7 would now be on the table. If they vote with the C7, they could dissolve the BE. If they do that, then Conference America might not let them in as football only and they may be forced to go MAC for football.. If they don't vote with the C7 on dissolving maybe they won't let them in.

Cinci and UConn would make more money doing a C-7/Mountain West combo. Those two could also consider a C-7/CUSA set-up. Both would pay more than playing all sports in the nBE or placing football in the MAC. Shocking that the MW contract would be higher than ours considering the MW first tier rights and much of thier second tier rights are still valued at the original 6 year old contract price. I tend to think this number probably is for a package of games or tier of rights, but is not representative of a bid for the entire NBE rights package.

Coog .......assuming it is what ESPN says it is, if UConn and UC hit the road do you think UH would reconsider the MWC? I still think a 16 team east/west MWC makes a lot sense

This is precisely why Pitt and Syracuse left the BE when they did. Both schools realized that the BE conf was going to be in trouble when it came to renegotiating its TV deals. This confirms that. Also, it's worse than anyone has imagined. It's unfortunate that schools like Houston, Memphis, SMU, etc were expecting bigger payoffs that in the end never materialized.

When it was announced that the MWC would receive $1.5M for its conference championship game, Nbe mocked (as usual) the MWC. I responded by saying that $1.5M MWC Championship game probably provides a good indicaiton of what Nbe is worth--which isn't much.

The Times Square Banners bull poop has finally played out. Eventually, there would be a reckoning between hyping and reality. That day has now come.

Aresco and Nbe undoubtedly knew months ago what their approximate worth is--we have seen so many leaks from other BCS and NonAQ conferences and the negotiations did not take this long. Obviously, this is why BSU left. But everyone was so far into Nbe, they couldn't find the where with all to pull out of this clustersmuck.

The public announcement of this figure effectively caps what Nbe can get. No other network is going to go over that figure. Contract negotiations, to be successful, must be secret. It is a game of poker and you don't win at poker if the other fella knows the cards in your hand.

Every BCS football game is now on television. A game between Baylor and Iowa State will undoubtedly outdraw, substantially, so a game between Memphis and Tulane, Temple and SMU, and so on. In addition, tv football games from MWC and CUSA (yes! CUSA!) can be put on; the Nbe inventory of good football games is not significantly different than in quality and tv power than CUSA and MWC. What I said from the git go of Day 1 of the Times Square Banners, if NonAQ teams and conferences want more money and exposure, they should coordinate and cooperate as a group to maximize revenue and tv exposure. IF CUSA and Nbe go it alone, basically, they compete against each other and cut each other's tv monies and appearances.

Please also remember ECU and Tulane have not given their formal notice to leave CUSA. Smart. Very Smart.

This Nbe expansion is a total waste of time and energy. All it is going to do is provide a very temporary home for UConn and Cincy, until these two schools solve the riddle of being stuck in Nbe.

Nbe is going to fall apart. No doubt this tv contract makes going independent for Cincy and UConn a reasonable alternative and they would make more money in C7 anyway. If TU receives a Nbe invite, TU officials should decline and just wait paitently.

Navy will probably reconsider its postion. If a conference tv contract is 30% basketball, then Navy gets 70% of $2M, or $1.4M. It can be guessed Navy would receive more tv money by bidding out its tv rights separately from Nbe.

Madison Square Garden has dumped Nbe and wants C7, according to Aresco's brown noser, the NJ mouthpiece.

All of Nbe chickens are coming home to roost. Everything is now falling into a logical place from the exaggerations and wild eyed claims made by Nbe.

Past is prologue. I have seen all this bull poop before at the Denver Airport.

what makes anyone so sure the c7 would want uconn and cincy at this point?

(02-10-2013 09:28 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  what makes anyone so sure the c7 would want uconn and cincy at this point?

I think the C7 would take those schools even if its only for a handful of years. One it locks in the conference name with them.

Regardless, I think the BE, the MWC and the CUSA are way undervalued. If I was an exec, I'd pay 50 or 60 million/ for the rights to those 3 conferences rather than 200+ million a year to one of the big five. Ratings are usually fairly similar and there will always be top 25 teams to show. I don't get why there is such a gap. Especially if I'm ESPN. Their ratings are more dependent on their own brand, not who they show.

Espin. Period.

"New Big East" + Louisville + Rutgers = ~$8 million a year
"New Big East" - Louisville - Rutgers = ~$2 million a year

Is anybody really surprised? The marquee football game in the "new Big East" is..........UConn vs. Cincinnati? You get what you pay for. There aren't many networks who are dying to show SMU vs. UCF vs. Temple vs. Memphis vs. USF every week.

The Big East has already said it's new contract will be with multiple media partners any talk of offers from a network is for only pieces of the media pie.

This is an offer from "NBCSports"...a network that is not even relevant in terms of broadcasting at this point.

They don't have any money...so you shouldn't be surprised when they put out an offer that says they dont have any money.

It was reported a few days ago (by another insider) that Fox, ESPN and CBS were the likely partners with the nBE....so which do you believe or want to believe. And this report doesn't have any breakdown, any details....its essentially a new tidbit of info used to restate the same story...but the only new item is "NBCSports offers"....which tells us info we already know, that they are not players in the TV revenue area of college athletics, hence why they are paying the Ivy League to televise Harvard v Brown...they are cheap.

At least I get to remember why I hate Loserville fans so much, as if I could ever forget.

The point still stands.

Why should nBE get more than CUSA when it is nothing but CUSA+Uconn-C7 basketball?

The content didn't change just because a bunch of CUSA teams relabeled themselves, so why is there this expectation that they are now worth so much more than they were under the CUSA banner?

Well, even at 23 million, with 10 teams, that's 2.3 million dollars per school. That's DOUBLE what CUSA was getting.

(02-10-2013 10:52 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  "New Big East" + Louisville + Rutgers = ~$8 million a year
"New Big East" - Louisville - Rutgers = ~$2 million a year

Is anybody really surprised? The marquee football game in the "new Big East" is..........UConn vs. Cincinnati? You get what you pay for. There aren't many networks who are dying to show SMU vs. UCF vs. Temple vs. Memphis vs. USF every week.

If NBE football today is worth $20M, then yes it would be surprising if NBE + Rutgers + Louisville + Boise + SDSU + No 14 would have been worth $8M x 14 = $112M.

Rutgers, Louisville, Boise, SDSU and say BYU as the difference between $20M and $110M?