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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
The two most likely things I can think of:

This is the offer for the BIG EAST catholic schools (lovingly known as the C7)

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This is one aspect of the offer, meaning well more than one media outlet is in play.

Either way, McMurphy jumped the gun.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:18 PM)zibby Wrote:  I don't want to be an I-Told-You-So, but I told you so.

I forgot to mention college hockey in that post. Since that post, NBCSN has added Formula 1 and English Premier League. The nBE needs NBCSN a lot more than NBCSN needs the nBE.

So with F1 and the PL, NBCSN has Saturday and Sundays covered up until noon. good for them.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:18 PM)zibby Wrote:  I don't want to be an I-Told-You-So, but I told you so.

I forgot to mention college hockey in that post. Since that post, NBCSN has added Formula 1 and English Premier League. The nBE needs NBCSN a lot more than NBCSN needs the nBE.

Zibby... You seem to think you're a bright guy. Don't you think your great insights would be appreciated more by your fellow ACC fans?
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:14 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  If the number was anywhere near that low, you can bet Aresco wouldn't sign a long-term deal at such a figure.

The article said it was for only 6 years, which isn't long at all.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
If the total value of the league is only that then the league will and should die.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
Sounds like the real issue is that ESPN is mada bout the BE saying no 2 years ago and is holding out for spite and Fox is tied to the C7

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

They're locked into Catholic 7 RT @KenFowler86: @McMurphyESPN Is it possible that Fox Sports will go after the Big East?



"NBC Sports Network is expected to submit an official offer to the Big East by next week. Once the Big East receives an official offer from NBC Sports Network, the league must give ESPN, the Big East's current rights-holder, the opportunity to match the deal."
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(02-09-2013 09:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If the total value of the league is only that then the league will and should die.

Why? It's not like they can go somewhere else and get more. Nothing wrong with that league....there just is no rain of free money that was dreamed about.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:26 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like the real issue is that ESPN is mada bout the BE saying no 2 years ago and is holding out for spite and Fox is tied to the C7

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

They're locked into Catholic 7 RT @KenFowler86: @McMurphyESPN Is it possible that Fox Sports will go after the Big East?



"NBC Sports Network is expected to submit an official offer to the Big East by next week. Once the Big East receives an official offer from NBC Sports Network, the league must give ESPN, the Big East's current rights-holder, the opportunity to match the deal."

Hold on wait a second ESPN has the right to match? I thought the Big East became free agents after the exclusive negotiation period that ended a few months ago? Was that a lie or is that statement a lie?
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:30 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:26 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  Sounds like the real issue is that ESPN is mada bout the BE saying no 2 years ago and is holding out for spite and Fox is tied to the C7

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

They're locked into Catholic 7 RT @KenFowler86: @McMurphyESPN Is it possible that Fox Sports will go after the Big East?



"NBC Sports Network is expected to submit an official offer to the Big East by next week. Once the Big East receives an official offer from NBC Sports Network, the league must give ESPN, the Big East's current rights-holder, the opportunity to match the deal."

Hold on wait a second ESPN has the right to match? I thought the Big East became free agents after the exclusive negotiation period that ended a few months ago? Was that a lie or is that statement a lie?

That's the shocker to me in all of this(even more than the money- thought you'd be up to 30-40 million at least)....
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:30 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If the total value of the league is only that then the league will and should die.

Why? It's not like they can go somewhere else and get more. Nothing wrong with that league....there just is no rain of free money that was dreamed about.

The issue isn't now, it is what happens as soon as someone else leaves?

The ACC is damaged and in a lawsuit to fight the validity over their exit fee. If teams leave the ACC, Temple and UConn are on deck.

Can you convince the next best candidate to leave the CUSA to go the the BE for less than 1M more which requires them to leave some close rivalries and most likely dramatically increase travel.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:30 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If the total value of the league is only that then the league will and should die.

Why? It's not like they can go somewhere else and get more. Nothing wrong with that league....there just is no rain of free money that was dreamed about.

If it's really worth that little then UCONN and Cincy will beg the C7 to let them stay with them, and Houston and SMU will beg the MWC to let them join. I don't believe it's worth that in total, because that means that the top half of C-USA which signed a deal worth around 15 million a year 2 years ago plus UCONN, Temple, Cincy, USF, and Navy is worth barely more. That makes no sense on any level.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:35 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:30 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If the total value of the league is only that then the league will and should die.

Why? It's not like they can go somewhere else and get more. Nothing wrong with that league....there just is no rain of free money that was dreamed about.

If it's really worth that little then UCONN and Cincy will beg the C7 to let them stay with them, and Houston and SMU will beg the MWC to let them join. I don't believe it's worth that in total, because that means that the top half of C-USA which signed a deal worth around 15 million a year 2 years ago plus UCONN, Temple, Cincy, USF, and Navy is worth barely more. That makes no sense on any level.

Agreed.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
(02-09-2013 09:33 PM)laxtonto Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:30 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 09:25 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

The issue isn't now, it is what happens as soon as someone else leaves?

The ACC is damaged and in a lawsuit to fight the validity over their exit fee. If teams leave the ACC, Temple and UConn are on deck.

Can you convince the next best candidate to leave the CUSA to go the the BE for less than 1M more which requires them to leave some close rivalries and most likely dramatically increase travel.

First off, 6 CUSA teams already made the move. Lost rivals... not so much. 2nd no Utep trip = less travel for most. 3rd, Arnesco has said this will be a multiple network contract. This bid likely is for tier 1 only. and it is a starting point not an end point. That is if the info is even real. BB only C7 which is 4 good BB schools is looking at 40 for BB only and NBE with Memphis, Cincy, Uconn, and Temple in BB are looking at 25 mil total, I don't think so.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
Yawn. McBullshit's tweet and this thread are same ****, different day. There's nothing of truth, nothing to dispute, no dicks getting longer by spouting what they think is right, it's McBullshit making **** up again and you folks taking the bait. Arguing about it just makes ESPN's job of getting your attention that much easier, **** them and the ******* horse they rode in on.
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I hope Blaudshun clears up this mess.
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Mcbullship is a Boise stool, think for a minute guys.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
wow- look at this thread from 2 years ago:
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?pid=6340650

last post indicated that ESPN has the right of first refusal.
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RE: nBE only worth $23m per year?
Any prospective suitor should be smart enough to know that you get what you pay for. If you underfund the league, the quality of the content will suffer immensely and the viewership will reflect that. At that point, what are you really getting - even at that firesale pricetag?
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(02-09-2013 09:49 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I hope Blaudshun clears up this mess.

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(02-09-2013 09:52 PM)stever20 Wrote:  wow- look at this thread from 2 years ago:
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?pid=6340650

last post indicated that ESPN has the right of first refusal.

ESPN having a right of first refusal would explain their predatory coverage of the Big East. ESPN absolutely has a motive to drive the value of the league down.
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