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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
(02-02-2013 05:30 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
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(02-02-2013 05:03 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 03:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 02:51 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Is the team going to switch back to the usual black uniforms anytime soon or are we stuck with these eyesores until further notice?

I may be in the minority, but I think they're pretty cool. All black, a bit more intimidating.

Wonder if we'll get some new designs for the post season like last year.

I'm watching the game and I have to guess who made a good steal or who missed a silly shot because I can not read the numbers or names on those jerseys. The announcers don't care much for them either.

Just because the uniforms are black doesn't mean everyone looks alike COGS

But seriously. How can you not tell who's who by now?

When I watch a UC road game on my non-HD TV, I can't tell the difference between Kilpatrick, Parker and Guyn (except I can guess by their play). If I wasn't paying attention to the substitutions, I offer can't tell if it is Mbodj or Nyarsuk (or Gaines).

And I really can't tell the different between Thomas and Rubles.

I watch on ESPN 3 (or streams) a lot and it's difficult at time to tell the difference, though I'd guess that better jersey colors wouldn't really make a difference (maybe the numbers would be slightly more readable). Kilpatrick, Thomas and Rubles always look the same to me, as do Parker and any/all of the back-up Guards. Mbodj and Cash are the only two who I can almost always accurately identify if I'm watching low quality (my internet is pretty slow so ESPN 3 is low quality a lot).
 
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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
I'm just now watching this game, but I dislike SK's shot selection. I can understand having a license to shoot, but FFS do it within the flow of the offense. Just jacking up 3's 5 feet behind the line isn't going to get it done for him.
 
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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
(02-02-2013 05:16 PM)R03jsniper Wrote:  Sorry I don't praise everyone on the team. I can't stand the way sk plays. I don't care what some other fan says about that. He makes the same stupid bonehead plays every game. He takes more shots a game than Kobe does. 1-4 shots is a good look. The others are forced 3s. He's a lazy player. I don't even know why I'm explaining myself. His actions on the court show my reasoning. His basketball IQ is slowly but surly diminishing

Make sure to take your issues up with all the Big East coaches that vote him all conference. SK isn't perfect, but lazy? One of the more absurd comments I've read on this board.
 
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Maybe I'm letting my imagination get the best of me, but when I was listening to the post game with Mick, did he make some kind of comment to the effect that he was disappointed that after all the work put into getting established in the Big East, we are going to have to start over soon in a new conference? Didn't say if he was referring to the nBE or somewhere else and Chuck and Dan let it sail right on by...
 
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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
The guy takes some bad shots some of the time, but hes the teams leading scorer and where would we be without him? He hustles on D and rebounds well for a 2 guard. His steal off that offensive rebound probably won the game for us.
 
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Sorry. But when you shoot 3 after 3 without ever penetrating and getting an open look. That's lazy basketball. Idc who you claim to be or who you are. That's lazy basketball. The majority of his shots are guarded 3s with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. That's not offense. Penetrate the lane. Be tough. Yes he is a good defender. I'm not taking that away from him. Our D has looked really well this year. But for you to honestly with a straight face say that shooting 14+ 3s by one player in a game isn't lazy offensive basketball. Well then maybe you might not no as much about basketball as you claim or think you do. Do you realize how good sk could be if he added and showed more weapons to his game. He has a quick first step. Why not use it to beat his man and get an easy layup/get to the free throw line/ draw help and kick to an open man for an uncontested shot? But instead he catches and shoots with a hand in his face.

Sorry I'm old school and expect perfection on every possession . There is no time or need for boneheaded shots or plays. 1 player does not win a basketball game. And if he does. Something isn't right. It takes a team and playing like a team on both sides of the ball. Everyone playing together. Run the offense. If we even have an offense. Move the ball around and get an OPEN look. Don't just shoot to shoot. I don't hate SK. I was just angry during the game that we let that lead slip. But I question his play and if he really wants to make it to the next level he needs to show everything in his tool belt and not just the 3 shooting.
 
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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
(02-02-2013 07:56 PM)R03jsniper Wrote:  Sorry. But when you shoot 3 after 3 without ever penetrating and getting an open look. That's lazy basketball. Idc who you claim to be or who you are. That's lazy basketball. The majority of his shots are guarded 3s with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. That's not offense. Penetrate the lane. Be tough. Yes he is a good defender. I'm not taking that away from him. Our D has looked really well this year. But for you to honestly with a straight face say that shooting 14+ 3s by one player in a game isn't lazy offensive basketball. Well then maybe you might not no as much about basketball as you claim or think you do. Do you realize how good sk could be if he added and showed more weapons to his game. He has a quick first step. Why not use it to beat his man and get an easy layup/get to the free throw line/ draw help and kick to an open man for an uncontested shot? But instead he catches and shoots with a hand in his face.

Sorry I'm old school and expect perfection on every possession . There is no time or need for boneheaded shots or plays. 1 player does not win a basketball game. And if he does. Something isn't right. It takes a team and playing like a team on both sides of the ball. Everyone playing together. Run the offense. If we even have an offense. Move the ball around and get an OPEN look. Don't just shoot to shoot. I don't hate SK. I was just angry during the game that we let that lead slip. But I question his play and if he really wants to make it to the next level he needs to show everything in his tool belt and not just the 3 shooting.

well that's pie in the sky if I've ever seen it....
 
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RE: UC @ Seton Hall Game Thread
Cash gets fouled...a lot. They don't call them for some reason.

We made it interesting yet again....

but we WON!!!! I'llk take it!
 
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Not expecting perfection is "pie in the sky". Why settle for mediocrity. That doesn't win championships
 
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(02-02-2013 08:54 PM)R03jsniper Wrote:  Not expecting perfection is "pie in the sky". Why settle for mediocrity. That doesn't win championships

You said you expect perfection "every posession"...that's not reality. National Champion teams don't get perfection on every possession...in fact nobody does...ever.
 
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(02-02-2013 05:13 PM)subflea Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 05:09 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Game threads are painful
UC wins @ Seton Hall for first time ever and you would think they got run out of the gym

You have one idiot say he hates SK

Another idiot bashes Cash the entire game while patting himself on the back

I try to stay away from game threads anymore. It is typically only complaining. I already have enough morons around me at the home games. I don't need that crap when I am watching on TV too.

You know what I hate, when A-Holes stop by a game thread after the game, with benefit of hind sight, and act high and mighty, just to let everyone who did participate know how stupid they are for not waiting until after the game to see if we win or lose before discussing it. I don't need that crap.
 
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By perfection that means not being lazy. Not breaking from within the offense. Not just shooting to shoot. How is that not reality. If good defense is played and a shot has to be taken to beat the shot clock you can't do anything about that. But to shoot just to shoot?. Things can be done about that and that isn't good basketball. Congratulations we beat seton hall today after we blew a 20 point lead. That shouldn't happen. We went 10 minutes without a made fg. The majority of shots taken then were all forced shots or contested 3s. There were some open looks that didn't fall and that will happen. But you have to move the ball around and penetrate and actually run an offense is what I'm saying. Perfection doesn't mean every shot goes in. Because that doesn't happen with anyone. But it does mean, like I said before, to work the ball around, setting on/off ball screen, penetrate the lane. Make the defense play defense. We had a bunch of people complain about we don't get fouls called. Well it's because we jack up 3 after 3. You aren't going to get a foul call by not attacking the basket. We would shoot a much better percentage from the floor and behind the arc if we did this. With much more open looks. We have between our 4 "guards"on the court The fastest team out there. If we worked the ball around we would tire the other team out on offense like we already do on the defensive end.
 
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(02-02-2013 07:34 PM)apoe Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 05:16 PM)R03jsniper Wrote:  Sorry I don't praise everyone on the team. I can't stand the way sk plays. I don't care what some other fan says about that. He makes the same stupid bonehead plays every game. He takes more shots a game than Kobe does. 1-4 shots is a good look. The others are forced 3s. He's a lazy player. I don't even know why I'm explaining myself. His actions on the court show my reasoning. His basketball IQ is slowly but surly diminishing

Make sure to take your issues up with all the Big East coaches that vote him all conference. SK isn't perfect, but lazy? One of the more absurd comments I've read on this board.

Who the hell complains about SK??? How is he lazy?!?!

Is this a pissed off XU fan?
 
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(02-02-2013 07:34 PM)apoe Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 05:16 PM)R03jsniper Wrote:  Sorry I don't praise everyone on the team. I can't stand the way sk plays. I don't care what some other fan says about that. He makes the same stupid bonehead plays every game. He takes more shots a game than Kobe does. 1-4 shots is a good look. The others are forced 3s. He's a lazy player. I don't even know why I'm explaining myself. His actions on the court show my reasoning. His basketball IQ is slowly but surly diminishing

Make sure to take your issues up with all the Big East coaches that vote him all conference. SK isn't perfect, but lazy? One of the more absurd comments I've read on this board.

Who the hell complains about SK??? How is he lazy?!?!

Is this a pissed off XU fan?

Really? So jacking up 14+ 3s a game by one player when the majority of them are contested is not lazy? Not being lazy would imply attacking the basket when you have a man on you. Not trying to shoot over him time and time again

And like I said before. Lazy on offense. I already, if you read my other posts, said he plays great defense
 
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No, it's not lazy.
 
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Lazy is not a word that comes anywhere close to describing SK. He can at times be less aggressive and fade out of the offense, but that ain't laziness. That's part of the game. Mess the guy everyone is trying to shut down and stop. He's not Jordan. He's not going to be involved in every possession and he's not going to be perfect when he is involved. He is a smart player and looks to take what the D is giving. If they give him the open three he's going to take it. Other times he looks to drive. He's not the best ball handler we have either.

Laziness is insulting and the opposite of how he plays.
 
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(02-02-2013 09:20 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  No, it's not lazy.

Yea ok. You're right. It's just bad basketball. But then again. All of you are the same ones that would say if he made a full court shot. That's a good shot. He should shoot more of those. Does no one understand the concept of team basketball and moving it around to the open guy? How is shooting a contested 3 when he could drive the lane a good shot? First pass 20 seconds left on the shot clock hand in face is not good basketball. Nobody here wants to see SK improve and add more weapons to his game. Everyone is satisfied with him just launching 3 after 3.
 
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Why is everyone jumping all over sniper?

He's being a little harsh but from what I remember most people here have been saying that SK needs to stop focusing solely on 3's. He needs to attack the basket more. Damn even Cronin implied that he was being selfish earlier in the season.

Lazy? No, that's not the right word, but he really needs to focus on scoring (driving, getting to the FT line, mid range pullups and 3's) instead of focusing on just shooting.
 
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People are jumping on him because he comes off as a pre-pubescent brat.
 
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(02-02-2013 09:27 PM)Murph29 Wrote:  Lazy is not a word that comes anywhere close to describing SK. He can at times be less aggressive and fade out of the offense, but that ain't laziness. That's part of the game. Mess the guy everyone is trying to shut down and stop. He's not Jordan. He's not going to be involved in every possession and he's not going to be perfect when he is involved. He is a smart player and looks to take what the D is giving. If they give him the open three he's going to take it. Other times he looks to drive. He's not the best ball handler we have either.

Laziness is insulting and the opposite of how he plays.

You're right lazy was the wrong word. But you said he takes what is givin to him. And that's not all the way correct either. Make 1 more pass. Get an off ball screen to get open and then take that open look. All I've been saying is he shoots way to many contested shots when other things can and should be done. The guy is super athletic and extremely quick. Use that to your advantage. Wear that defender down. Don't just shoot to shoot
 
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