This is the offical fire Murry Bartow Thread.Please post opinons,coaching rumors,and other critcal information.

I have been for getting rid of Bartow for years and got alot of heat for it, I certainly haven't seen anything to change my mind.

(01-29-2013 04:04 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  I have been for getting rid of Bartow for years and got alot of heat for it, I certainly haven't seen anything to change my mind.

This season really puts it over the top for me.

Any coach that doesn't enter every game, regardless of competition, to win is a coach with at least a serious attitude problem. "Unrealistic" to expect to win non-conference games ... not acceptable.

But losing to recent DII programs on a regular basis now is beyond acceptable.

Yes, it is time for Bartow to be replaced.

I would be surprised if Bartow was fired with remaining years on his contract. With the addition of football about to be a very significant expense with no return for several years, I doubt they want to buy out a coach's contract right now. Keeping him on can be justified from a historical perspective because of his NCAA appearances.

(01-29-2013 10:37 PM)LetsgoBucs Wrote:  I would be surprised if Bartow was fired with remaining years on his contract. With the addition of football about to be a very significant expense with no return for several years, I doubt they want to buy out a coach's contract right now. Keeping him on can be justified from a historical perspective because of his NCAA appearances.

We don't to fire him right now.This is just devoted to rumors about the coaching.

Question:

How many seasons are left on his contract?

6 and 16 says it all. One of those 6 wins was against Milligan who came into the dome with a sling shot and missed. 6-16 after being on the job 10 years? Most employers demand improvement...not the downhill slide in just about every category including and most importantly attendance. It's clear to me that Murry has failed to attract a crowd...that he's actually made attendance go the wrong way. Could it be that ETSU followers detect arrogance? Can he turn it around? It seems to me he's lost. His famous name has not been a benefit to ETSU. When was the last time one of his mentors visited? Ever seen Bobby Knight pumping up ETSU for his friend Murry? Let's see if our new athletic director can work some magic and find ETSU a Shaka!

I've gone to 2-3 games this year, the fewest I've ever been to. While part of that is that I usually don't leave work until 6 or 7 and don't feel like driving an hour, another big part is that the Jekyll and Hyde nature of this team is hard to watch. They'll be amazing for half a game and then terrible for half a game. This falls squarely on Bartow.

No reason this team shouldn't be (at worst) 8-1 in conference. Instead, they are 4-5.

Amazing, eh?

I had the unfortunate luck to have to sit through the Murry Bartow era while in college and I would not wish that upon another student. Many on here will say that he isn't playing with a full team and its not fair to fire him this year. Why not? He is supposed to be a good recruiter and coach yet we don't have a single consistant shooter from the outside on the roster, and we look so disorganized on both ends that it makes you wonder if they practice at all. I know he lost three people he was supposed to be relying on, but there is no excuse for the other ten to look this bad this far in the year. I am looking for some improvement and not seeing it. I just don't think he recruits his system well. With this roster, I would be running up and down the floor. We aren't that big and are not great shooters so why play a half-court game. We are plenty athletic enough to run teams to death with the pressing style that we used to run. I dont know is he is that basketball smart, he doesn't seem to be able to get what he know across to his players. This is not this season only. This team has been the most or second most talented and athletic team in the conference for years and yet we only have one real ncaa appearance in the last ten years to show for it. WTF?
On top of that, he is terrible with the students and fan base, as he does absolutely nothing to try to get out on campus and get them to come to games. Maybe I missed them all, but I NEVER saw him anywhere on campus other than the Mini-Dome. It seems that if we were really tring to grow a program you would want someone that is on the same page there.

I think Kobe and the Lakers might be calling.

ETSU needs a personality who is adored as coach. Murry is the opposite of that. There should be an attendance clause in each coaches contract that will inspire them to win the community...getting them into the dome...giving ETSU a home court advantage. A coach who takes every opportunity to use media and personal interaction to know ETSU fans...a coach who connects...who wants to do their post game show over the sound system...who has a coaches show...who becomes a TriCity celebrity....and most important, a coach who wins!

(01-30-2013 02:44 AM)Goldfinger Wrote:  Question:

How many seasons are left on his contract?

Anybody?

It runs through the 2014-15 season. 2 more years after this one.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...1596_x.htm

http://www.etsubucs.com/news/archives/20...ough-2015/

He had just recieved a 2 year extension the year before and they added another year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4351828

In that case, based on Pitt's four years logic, I think maybe you have to fire him at the end of the season. I thought his contract was longer than that.

found this post from thedoctor

The question was what is Murry Bartow's basketball philosophy
from 3-10-2010 so almost 3 years old.

And other then no longer being able to draw large crowds nothing else has changed.

http://riice.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?...id=5220881

Quote:Objectively? Well, I've watched him coach something like 75 or so games in person. Does that count?

If so, here would be my theory (if not, ignore what is written below):

Prime objective: draw as big a crowd as possible, so that I can potentially get a raise at my next contract extension.
How to do that?: create an exciting product

Techniques:

1. Method A: Get large lead, say 15-19 pts. Somewhere in second half, call off the horses to let other team back in it and make it as close as I can.
2. Method B: Get way behind early, maybe somewhere between 20 and 30. (15 may be enough in some cases.) Roar back late in the second half within 10, to get everyone excited, knowing it's almost certainly too late to actually win the game. That'll keep 'em on the edge of their seats......

(Important: recruit very good players so that this can be handled with ease.)

Further notes:

1. Throw team and fans a bone every once in a while by allowing Wagers to run defense.
2. To add additional mystery and suspense, keep 'em guessing (both team and fans) by juggling lineups haphazardly, and benching players for traveling, fouls, or missing one assignment.
3. Under no circumstances give out any important or noteworthy information, OR develop an inbounds play.

My concern is being able to bring in a quality hire considering where etsu currently stands. No question bartow is the worst coach in at least thirty years.

Let's take a look at some of the reasons that he should be considered for re-assignment.
1) Injury after player injury EVERY year.
2) Recruiting ability is diminishing..(which may have some to do with the asun but still.. poor recruiting)
3) Player retention in terrible.
4) Does not know how to use the bench.
5) Does not participate with building fan support.
6) Has been an ass to fans.
7)Can't win consistently in the ASUN... doesn't expect to win outside of the conference.

Is there any chance that we could get Bruce Pearl to come to ETSU? There's no reason that we shouldn't capitalize on Mike Hamilton's mistakes.