(01-25-2013 06:46 PM)Boscoe Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

I would agree with the assessment but it only takes one run in the NCAA tournament to change that.

Yep. That changes everything.

(01-25-2013 05:14 PM)BHtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

No you're not! You want to be able criticize CJP. That's your only contribution and purpose for being here. Where did you come from? You're going on ignore!

Why are you so paranoid dude? I am just as big a Tiger fan as anyone on this board. And I want nothing more than for Pastner to win big at Memphis. Just pointing out that so far, the Pastner era has been somewhat of a disappointment to me. I actually have a feeling that he'll get that first tourney win this year.

(01-25-2013 06:46 PM)Boscoe Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

I would agree with the assessment but it only takes one run in the NCAA tournament to change that.

Absolutely. And if he makes a run then I would hope we would do what it takes to keep him in Memphis.

(01-25-2013 04:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

IMO your IMO sucks. And if they rated CJP a 4-6 then their opinion is greatly misinformed. Probably one of the more important reasons they might rate CJP so low is he puts academics before basketball, students first, basketball is secondary. For schools who primarily care about a sports program's success having a coach with such an agenda isn't what they are looking for.

Sorry, but I think your IMO sucks. I primarily care about a sports program. That is what we are paying 1.7m for. We can get a qualified tudor for a whole lot less.

For chrisesakes. We're a commuter city school. Not Duke.

He puts academics before basketball? Yeah right.

I'm beginning to think that maybe these TAMMS are right about Pastner.

He is only a recruiter and is just a horrendous coach. He can't develop his players and damn sure is unable to control them. He shows zero sense of discipline. He never cusses nor does he ever challenge the officials. He has yet to draw a technical!!

The guy has only won two consecutive C-USA championships and a mere 75% of his games. That sucks. Bowen should terminate Pastner at the end of this season and pick from the long list RC was choosing from back in March 2009.

(01-26-2013 07:48 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 04:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

IMO your IMO sucks. And if they rated CJP a 4-6 then their opinion is greatly misinformed. Probably one of the more important reasons they might rate CJP so low is he puts academics before basketball, students first, basketball is secondary. For schools who primarily care about a sports program's success having a coach with such an agenda isn't what they are looking for.

Sorry, but I think your IMO sucks. I primarily care about a sports program. That is what we are paying 1.7m for. We can get a qualified tudor for a whole lot less.

For chrisesakes. We're a commuter city school. Not Duke.

He puts academics before basketball? Yeah right.

Quality. Maybe Anne Boleyn can tutor English and Spelling

(01-26-2013 08:26 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'm beginning to think that maybe these TAMMS are right about Pastner.

He is only a recruiter and is just a horrendous coach. He can't develop his players and damn sure is unable to control them. He shows zero sense of discipline. He never cusses nor does he ever challenge the officials. He has yet to draw a technical!!

The guy has only won two consecutive C-USA championships and a mere 75% of his games. That sucks. Bowen should terminate Pastner at the end of this season and pick from the long list RC was choosing from back in March 2009.

Wow, CUSA! Thats our goal now? There's some giants in the basketball world. I have no fingernails left worrying about how we'll do in this years tourney. Winning conference should be good enough to get us a "play-in game" for the big dance.

In 2009, nobody wanted to follow in the footsteps of Calipari. It would have been coaching suicide. I don't know if we'll have that problem the next time around.

I'm up early this morning. I just couldn't get any sleep worrying about the Marshall game today.

(01-26-2013 08:38 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 07:48 AM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 04:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 02:49 PM)Chip Diller Wrote:  Good lord man, they rated Pastner a 4-6 out of 10....their lowest rated coach.

Some of the coaches they rate higher than Pastner:

Mark Gottfried, Dave Rice, Scott Drew, Justin Hutson (asst coach at UNLV!!!!), Dan Monson, Dave Rose (BYU), Fran Dunphy, Lorenzo Romar, Steve Lavin, Tommy Amaker

Not to mention the obvious ones like: Stevens, Smart, Few, Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Greg McDermott, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright


I hate to say it but, I think "this board's" opinion of how highly Pastner is regarded by basketball people around the nation is totally incorrect. IMO, he is viewed as a great recruiter that greatly underachieves on the court with said talent. Great recruiter/bad coach. Maybe he can prove them wrong in the tourney this year. I sure hope so.

IMO your IMO sucks. And if they rated CJP a 4-6 then their opinion is greatly misinformed. Probably one of the more important reasons they might rate CJP so low is he puts academics before basketball, students first, basketball is secondary. For schools who primarily care about a sports program's success having a coach with such an agenda isn't what they are looking for.

Sorry, but I think your IMO sucks. I primarily care about a sports program. That is what we are paying 1.7m for. We can get a qualified tudor for a whole lot less.

For chrisesakes. We're a commuter city school. Not Duke.

He puts academics before basketball? Yeah right.

Quality. Maybe Anne Boleyn can tutor English and Spelling

Its early in the morning out here. Gimme a break.

(01-25-2013 05:58 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Only this board could turn being listed in the top 19 candidates for head coach at a school that has more money than Midas as being a slam on Pastner. Obviously, he's not one of the top 10 candidates on this list, but there are 347 division 1 basketball schools, and they bothered to post a blurb and pic of 19 coaches. Let me know when Brad Stevens or Shaka Smart apply for the Memphis job.

Smart just lot to Richmond! I wouldn't have him.

(01-26-2013 11:35 AM)Poorwill Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 05:58 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  Only this board could turn being listed in the top 19 candidates for head coach at a school that has more money than Midas as being a slam on Pastner. Obviously, he's not one of the top 10 candidates on this list, but there are 347 division 1 basketball schools, and they bothered to post a blurb and pic of 19 coaches. Let me know when Brad Stevens or Shaka Smart apply for the Memphis job.

Smart just lot to Richmond! I wouldn't have him.

The balance is better for teams that beat other good teams even if they lose against a bad team.

There are teams that win 70% of their games and dont get the same respect as a team that wins 60% with a good win mixed in.

I don't want to be the Julio Ceasar Chavez Jr. of basketball.