(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 08:32 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  It is hard to explain to students today the magic in the field house in the early seventies. Waiting for hours in line to see 6'9" Jim Bradley get 20 rebounds and 25 points. Passing to Z in the corner behind his back from half court. Billy Harris leading a 3 on 2 or pulling up for a 25 footer. We would sit 2 feet from the out of bounds line in a packed field house. Jackson with the D. Ray Meyer and Bob Knight walking off the court with a loss with fans in their face. NIU averaged around 80 points a game! It is hard to believe that special time was 40 years ago and NIU just scored 4 points in a half today.

NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 08:32 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  It is hard to explain to students today the magic in the field house in the early seventies. Waiting for hours in line to see 6'9" Jim Bradley get 20 rebounds and 25 points. Passing to Z in the corner behind his back from half court. Billy Harris leading a 3 on 2 or pulling up for a 25 footer. We would sit 2 feet from the out of bounds line in a packed field house. Jackson with the D. Ray Meyer and Bob Knight walking off the court with a loss with fans in their face. NIU averaged around 80 points a game! It is hard to believe that special time was 40 years ago and NIU just scored 4 points in a half today.

NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

I think the game you're talking about was in 1972 when we lost to ISU, 86-85 in DeKalb. We had a big lead in that game, 18 points if I recall, and still ended up losing. Collins was spectacular in that game also.

In 1973, we beat ISU in DeKalb.

The score was even talking about how dingy the convo is .
dingy
Darkened with smoke and grime; dirty or discolored. Shabby, drab, or squalid.
maybe not quite this bad?

(01-27-2013 11:18 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 08:32 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  It is hard to explain to students today the magic in the field house in the early seventies. Waiting for hours in line to see 6'9" Jim Bradley get 20 rebounds and 25 points. Passing to Z in the corner behind his back from half court. Billy Harris leading a 3 on 2 or pulling up for a 25 footer. We would sit 2 feet from the out of bounds line in a packed field house. Jackson with the D. Ray Meyer and Bob Knight walking off the court with a loss with fans in their face. NIU averaged around 80 points a game! It is hard to believe that special time was 40 years ago and NIU just scored 4 points in a half today.

NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

I think the game you're talking about was in 1972 when we lost to ISU, 86-85 in DeKalb. We had a big lead in that game, 18 points if I recall, and still ended up losing. Collins was spectacular in that game also.

In 1973, we beat ISU in DeKalb.

Didn't Collins make two free throws with seconds to go to win that game?

(01-27-2013 11:28 AM)niufan99 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:18 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 08:32 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  It is hard to explain to students today the magic in the field house in the early seventies. Waiting for hours in line to see 6'9" Jim Bradley get 20 rebounds and 25 points. Passing to Z in the corner behind his back from half court. Billy Harris leading a 3 on 2 or pulling up for a 25 footer. We would sit 2 feet from the out of bounds line in a packed field house. Jackson with the D. Ray Meyer and Bob Knight walking off the court with a loss with fans in their face. NIU averaged around 80 points a game! It is hard to believe that special time was 40 years ago and NIU just scored 4 points in a half today.

NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

I think the game you're talking about was in 1972 when we lost to ISU, 86-85 in DeKalb. We had a big lead in that game, 18 points if I recall, and still ended up losing. Collins was spectacular in that game also.

In 1973, we beat ISU in DeKalb.

Didn't Collins make two free throws with seconds to go to win that game?

Yeah, and then we had one more chance to win it. Larry Jackson, our worst shooter, had to take a 25-footer that wasn't close. Very frustrating loss; we should have been 22-3 that year. Might have been enough to get us into the NIT.

In all reality, that was the Golden Era of Huskie Basketball but lets not forget the NCAA tourney teams of McDougal, Molinari and Hamel. Anyone who has followed Huskie basketball throughout this time span is in utter disbelief that our basketball program today is the worst in the NCAA. It all starts with the coaching.

(01-27-2013 11:33 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:28 AM)niufan99 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:18 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

I think the game you're talking about was in 1972 when we lost to ISU, 86-85 in DeKalb. We had a big lead in that game, 18 points if I recall, and still ended up losing. Collins was spectacular in that game also.

In 1973, we beat ISU in DeKalb.

Didn't Collins make two free throws with seconds to go to win that game?

Yeah, and then we had one more chance to win it. Larry Jackson, our worst shooter, had to take a 25-footer that wasn't close. Very frustrating loss; we should have been 22-3 that year. Might have been enough to get us into the NIT.

More about this...

ODDS & INS.
The Sad Story Of Jim Bradley And Bubbles Hawkins
December 03, 1993|By Mike Conklin.

This may be difficult to grasp today, but 21 seasons ago the two most exciting college basketball teams in the area were Illinois State and Northern Illinois. They met once that 1972-73 campaign in De Kalb, and the showcase player was ISU senior Doug Collins. In all deference to Doug, most spectators came away from that contest, broadcast by radio play-by-play man Jim Durham, raving about two other players seemingly destined for NBA stardom.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-...usive-club

Wait, how does Filmmaker feel about Montgomery? Just say it, man.

(01-27-2013 05:01 AM)7 Wrote:  DePaul lost by 38 tonight. I suppose that's better becasue they scored 55 though.

Duke lost by 27. FIRE COACH K!

(01-27-2013 05:17 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 05:08 AM)7 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 05:03 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 04:54 AM)7 Wrote:  I mean honestly, shot attempts were 61 to 35 in favor of NIU! Half the turnovers, more than double the offensive rebounds. How much can a coach realistically do?

He could realistically coach a team beyond, I don't know, the worst performance IN HISTORY! Screw Monty for embarrassing the university. They had half the turnovers because Monty's un-coached kids never drove the lane...

Yeah, I'm sure he kept saying "keep shooting 3s" during the game. I'm sure he has no idea how to attack a zone. And spare me the hyperbole of "embarrassing the university" in a game nobody will remember in a week.

A decent grade school or high school coach changes his game plan when his team is 0-for-10 or 0-for-20 on three point attempts. Coach not-to-bright had them firing up 3's all day... I, like everyone else, feels that Monty is a likable guy, but a solid coach, no way, Ricardo 2.0...

Coach not-TOO-Bright.

(01-27-2013 12:56 PM)niuaccy1976 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:33 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:28 AM)niufan99 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 11:18 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

I think the game you're talking about was in 1972 when we lost to ISU, 86-85 in DeKalb. We had a big lead in that game, 18 points if I recall, and still ended up losing. Collins was spectacular in that game also.

In 1973, we beat ISU in DeKalb.

Didn't Collins make two free throws with seconds to go to win that game?

Yeah, and then we had one more chance to win it. Larry Jackson, our worst shooter, had to take a 25-footer that wasn't close. Very frustrating loss; we should have been 22-3 that year. Might have been enough to get us into the NIT.

More about this...

ODDS & INS.
The Sad Story Of Jim Bradley And Bubbles Hawkins
December 03, 1993|By Mike Conklin.

This may be difficult to grasp today, but 21 seasons ago the two most exciting college basketball teams in the area were Illinois State and Northern Illinois. They met once that 1972-73 campaign in De Kalb, and the showcase player was ISU senior Doug Collins. In all deference to Doug, most spectators came away from that contest, broadcast by radio play-by-play man Jim Durham, raving about two other players seemingly destined for NBA stardom.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-...usive-club

Thanks. Dec. 3 1972. I cannot name a single teacher I had that year but I can name the starting lineup for NIU and ISU 31 years later. Is that weird?

(01-27-2013 08:08 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  7 gets it and filmmaker seems like he is on some personal witchhunt.....really, film, what is your problem? did monty steal your fake girlfriend?

As was said in one of the few objective, knowledgeable posts showing considerable basketball acumen, this EMU zone was LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG and penetration was not to be had or led to blocked shots by tiny guards if they did get in the paint. The coach cannot make shots--when he gets them shots, he has done a big part of his job....as far as adjustments, he sped the game up after halftime with pressure which got EMU out of its milk the clock comfort zone and forced bad shots which helped with a few runouts for NIU and had many more good possessions....as to why he didn't do it earlier, good pressure in college requires athleticism, length and basketball smarts but with Askel and Abdul in foul trouble early, NIU could have been blown out early if they attacked full court in the first half. In spite of godawful shooting, at the half, the Huskies were still in the game---THAT is good coaching.

For those who want to criticize the recruiting, how do you package this program (chicken$hit) coming off 5 straight years of 20 loss seasons and woeful crowds into something saleable (chickensalad) to recruits? I think getting Nader was an unbelieveable coup and the influx of the two point guards (who will certainly be pretty good MAC backups before it is over) was needed but the team will improve with a bigger guard (6'2" Dontel) next year. Such a player can get into the paint, see over some of the length to kick it out for more open shots and score/dish to posts when he gets in the lane cuz A: he can shoot and B: he is bigger so the length of the EMU type zone won't bother him as much. Also, had injured Mader been available, (and even redshirted project but BIG Pete) an inside out game against the 7'1" Syracuse monster zone maker and his 6'10 backup and the 6'9" and 6'8" wings, would have been more possible.

7 had it right when he accused you doomsdayers (and do NOT call yourselves fans) of not having watched the game. It was clear on film that this group of young, somewhat offensive talent lacking huskies was up against it last night, but, in spite of all that adversity and shooting woes, NEVER EVER gave up....with 8 minutes left, a few made threes would have made this a game and that is a testament to this coaching staff.

It was a young team that not surprisingly had trouble figuring out a zone. That happens all the time with young teams. Then you add in the fact nobody can shoot and you saw the results. Yes it was awful, but some of the hyperbole being thrown out there is funny.

They better work on attacking the zone in practice (and I'm sure they will) because they're going to see a lot of it now.

(01-27-2013 08:08 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  7 gets it and filmmaker seems like he is on some personal witchhunt.....really, film, what is your problem? did monty steal your fake girlfriend?

As was said in one of the few objective, knowledgeable posts showing considerable basketball acumen, this EMU zone was LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG and penetration was not to be had or led to blocked shots by tiny guards if they did get in the paint. The coach cannot make shots--when he gets them shots, he has done a big part of his job....as far as adjustments, he sped the game up after halftime with pressure which got EMU out of its milk the clock comfort zone and forced bad shots which helped with a few runouts for NIU and had many more good possessions....as to why he didn't do it earlier, good pressure in college requires athleticism, length and basketball smarts but with Askel and Abdul in foul trouble early, NIU could have been blown out early if they attacked full court in the first half. In spite of godawful shooting, at the half, the Huskies were still in the game---THAT is good coaching.

For those who want to criticize the recruiting, how do you package this program (chicken$hit) coming off 5 straight years of 20 loss seasons and woeful crowds into something saleable (chickensalad) to recruits? I think getting Nader was an unbelieveable coup and the influx of the two point guards (who will certainly be pretty good MAC backups before it is over) was needed but the team will improve with a bigger guard (6'2" Dontel) next year. Such a player can get into the paint, see over some of the length to kick it out for more open shots and score/dish to posts when he gets in the lane cuz A: he can shoot and B: he is bigger so the length of the EMU type zone won't bother him as much. Also, had injured Mader been available, (and even redshirted project but BIG Pete) an inside out game against the 7'1" Syracuse monster zone maker and his 6'10 backup and the 6'9" and 6'8" wings, would have been more possible.

7 had it right when he accused you doomsdayers (and do NOT call yourselves fans) of not having watched the game. It was clear on film that this group of young, somewhat offensive talent lacking huskies was up against it last night, but, in spite of all that adversity and shooting woes, NEVER EVER gave up....with 8 minutes left, a few made threes would have made this a game and that is a testament to this coaching staff.

My girlfriend is plenty real, you just haven't met he because she lies in the Niagra Falls area.

(01-27-2013 05:16 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 08:08 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  7 gets it and filmmaker seems like he is on some personal witchhunt.....really, film, what is your problem? did monty steal your fake girlfriend?

As was said in one of the few objective, knowledgeable posts showing considerable basketball acumen, this EMU zone was LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG and penetration was not to be had or led to blocked shots by tiny guards if they did get in the paint. The coach cannot make shots--when he gets them shots, he has done a big part of his job....as far as adjustments, he sped the game up after halftime with pressure which got EMU out of its milk the clock comfort zone and forced bad shots which helped with a few runouts for NIU and had many more good possessions....as to why he didn't do it earlier, good pressure in college requires athleticism, length and basketball smarts but with Askel and Abdul in foul trouble early, NIU could have been blown out early if they attacked full court in the first half. In spite of godawful shooting, at the half, the Huskies were still in the game---THAT is good coaching.

For those who want to criticize the recruiting, how do you package this program (chicken$hit) coming off 5 straight years of 20 loss seasons and woeful crowds into something saleable (chickensalad) to recruits? I think getting Nader was an unbelieveable coup and the influx of the two point guards (who will certainly be pretty good MAC backups before it is over) was needed but the team will improve with a bigger guard (6'2" Dontel) next year. Such a player can get into the paint, see over some of the length to kick it out for more open shots and score/dish to posts when he gets in the lane cuz A: he can shoot and B: he is bigger so the length of the EMU type zone won't bother him as much. Also, had injured Mader been available, (and even redshirted project but BIG Pete) an inside out game against the 7'1" Syracuse monster zone maker and his 6'10 backup and the 6'9" and 6'8" wings, would have been more possible.

7 had it right when he accused you doomsdayers (and do NOT call yourselves fans) of not having watched the game. It was clear on film that this group of young, somewhat offensive talent lacking huskies was up against it last night, but, in spite of all that adversity and shooting woes, NEVER EVER gave up....with 8 minutes left, a few made threes would have made this a game and that is a testament to this coaching staff.

My girlfriend is plenty real, you just haven't met he because she lies in the Niagra Falls area.

In addition to a number of girls in the Niagara Falls area, whom else are you riding the hobby horse with?

(01-26-2013 02:24 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  I hate when NIU plays EMU in basketball. It's always an awful affair, where each team struggles to break 40 points. It sets basketball back to when the ball was still square. Things really got better when the ball eroded into a rounder shape. Especially since the hoop was always round.

EMU is another "meh" MAC team, though of course NIU is not up to the "meh" level yet, but can beat the occasional "meh" team. EMU did beat a meh Purdue team 48-44. Ugh. Enough meh.

Da'Shonte Riley is 7 feet tall, so he can block shots and rebound. He cannot shoot much, thankfully. Hopefully NIU runs into him enough to get him in foul trouble, or just fouls him because he's just awful at free throwing. If you have to foul, foul the tall guy. He transferred from Syracuse, if that means anything to ye. EMU also has an Arkansas and a Wyoming transfer. Sounds like they're getting itchy up there.

Like NIU, EMU plays a lot of guys and none of them stand out too much.

EMU is winless on the road, but good at home, so this doesn't set up well unless they get confused about which Convo they are in (Yes, I've used that joke before. PLEASE stop naming buildings "Convocation Center." Least inspiring name ever.).

I suppose this is a revenge game for EMU, after NIU "stunned" them for the longest MAC tournament run for NIU in probably ever.

Two straight wins on the road is a tall order for NIU, hopefully they find a way. NIU has won 3 out of their last four MAC road games, however...after a ten game losing streak in MAC road contests. There is hope. Or not. I dunno.

The formula remains the same; rebound, defend, and pray a few shots fall in. Did you know, NIU has scored at least 65 points in their wins? The Huskies have won just once under Mark Montgomery when scoring less than 60 points. SCORE, dammit.

The MAC is hosting this game (Click on the green words by the NIU-EMU game, champ), so watch if you wonder what it would be like to see cavemen play basketball.

Got to believe that this post created some BAD juju. Use your powers for good damn it.

Iowa was looking to match NIU..they scored 14 in the first half today

If UT could turn around their horrendous seasons ('08-'09 7 wins, 09-10 4 wins, 10-11 4 wins), followed up with 18 wins in '11-'12, and 18 (non-D1 ability) players transferring out within 5 years, then anything is possible. I hope you guys can turn it around so the West can start owning the East, just like in football.

(01-27-2013 04:54 AM)7 Wrote:  I mean honestly, shot attempts were 61 to 35 in favor of NIU! Half the turnovers, more than double the offensive rebounds. How much can a coach realistically do?

NIU had more than double the offensive rebounds because they missed 53 shots compared to EMU missing only 22 shots. NIU had an offensive rebound on 20.75% of their misses, EMU had an offensive rebound on 31.8% of their misses.

(01-27-2013 05:28 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 02:24 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  I hate when NIU plays EMU in basketball. It's always an awful affair, where each team struggles to break 40 points. It sets basketball back to when the ball was still square. Things really got better when the ball eroded into a rounder shape. Especially since the hoop was always round.

EMU is another "meh" MAC team, though of course NIU is not up to the "meh" level yet, but can beat the occasional "meh" team. EMU did beat a meh Purdue team 48-44. Ugh. Enough meh.

Da'Shonte Riley is 7 feet tall, so he can block shots and rebound. He cannot shoot much, thankfully. Hopefully NIU runs into him enough to get him in foul trouble, or just fouls him because he's just awful at free throwing. If you have to foul, foul the tall guy. He transferred from Syracuse, if that means anything to ye. EMU also has an Arkansas and a Wyoming transfer. Sounds like they're getting itchy up there.

Like NIU, EMU plays a lot of guys and none of them stand out too much.

EMU is winless on the road, but good at home, so this doesn't set up well unless they get confused about which Convo they are in (Yes, I've used that joke before. PLEASE stop naming buildings "Convocation Center." Least inspiring name ever.).

I suppose this is a revenge game for EMU, after NIU "stunned" them for the longest MAC tournament run for NIU in probably ever.

Two straight wins on the road is a tall order for NIU, hopefully they find a way. NIU has won 3 out of their last four MAC road games, however...after a ten game losing streak in MAC road contests. There is hope. Or not. I dunno.

The formula remains the same; rebound, defend, and pray a few shots fall in. Did you know, NIU has scored at least 65 points in their wins? The Huskies have won just once under Mark Montgomery when scoring less than 60 points. SCORE, dammit.

The MAC is hosting this game (Click on the green words by the NIU-EMU game, champ), so watch if you wonder what it would be like to see cavemen play basketball.

Got to believe that this post created some BAD juju. Use your powers for good damn it.

Oh sure, criticize the ONE TIME EVER I was right, just because it was bad. The world will stop doing what I think soon, and all will be well.

(01-27-2013 10:46 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2013 10:10 AM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 08:32 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  It is hard to explain to students today the magic in the field house in the early seventies. Waiting for hours in line to see 6'9" Jim Bradley get 20 rebounds and 25 points. Passing to Z in the corner behind his back from half court. Billy Harris leading a 3 on 2 or pulling up for a 25 footer. We would sit 2 feet from the out of bounds line in a packed field house. Jackson with the D. Ray Meyer and Bob Knight walking off the court with a loss with fans in their face. NIU averaged around 80 points a game! It is hard to believe that special time was 40 years ago and NIU just scored 4 points in a half today.

NIU averaged over 95 points per game in 1971-1972. That was some kind of offense!

Thanks. I knew it was high but I forgot how high! How about that game a year later year when ISU Doug Collins score 30 plus points and NIU loses by a couple. Last time a NBA #1 draft pick played at NIU. Fans were 10 deep sitting on the floor in front of the bleachers! Fire chief was lost that night.

Think of it this way: Our football team is great, but we're not going to beat the Alabamas (current) and Ohio States. For a couple of magical years, we had a realistic chance of beating ANYBODY in college basketball.

Yahoo article about NIU's place in basketball history.

http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/st...S&.lang=en