I just wanted to point out...

Titus Rubles is 4-36. He went 3-6 during St. Johns game which means he is really 1-30 in the other 19 games. 1-30!!. That's horrible!

Justin Jackson is 1-11. 11? really? how'd that happen

We have taken the 18th most threes in the nation, 3rd among major conference teams. Ranked 165th in 3pt fg %.

Again, the big thing is Titus Rubles is 4-36. 1-30 without the St John's game.

I like Rubles. He's very talented and can get to the basket and score. But do that. dont shoot threes. Ever. ever again. please.

(01-23-2013 04:03 PM)thebearcat Wrote:  I just wanted to point out...

Titus Rubles is 4-36. He went 3-6 during St. Johns game which means he is really 1-30 in the other 19 games. 1-30!!. That's horrible!

Justin Jackson is 1-11. 11? really? how'd that happen

We have taken the 18th most threes in the nation, 3rd among major conference teams. Ranked 165th in 3pt fg %.

Again, the big thing is Titus Rubles is 4-36. 1-30 without the St John's game.

I like Rubles. He's very talented and can get to the basket and score. But do that. dont shoot threes. Ever. ever again. please.

I agree the 3 point shooting for this team is just horrible. And Ill include everyone to this list. Not just the two you named. We dribble around the 3 point line and instead of trying to get in the paint or atleast the free throw line we chuck up 3 after 3. SK is probably the worst about it. He doesnt look to do anything else other than catch and throw up a 3. He made his first one against Cuse. what were his next 4 shots? ugly contested 3s. Pretty sure his second 3 attempt hit the side of the backboard, his 3rd was hard off the backrim/backboard and his 4th was blocked. We have to look for better attempts than settling for 3s because we waste the whole shot clock dribbling around the arc

On the plus side, we do rebound quite a few of those misses, which certainly helps. The being said, I'd still like to see the offense flow better. We shoot so much better when it gets kicked out from inside and the shooters catch it in rhythm.

My gut tells me that next year Rubles will be a better 3 point option. He supposedly had a decent stroke coming in (Albeit ugly). It seems to me he is pressing now and scared to shoot or rushes it. Trust me, at this point I don't want him to shoot it unless the shot clock is running down, but maybe at some point he settles down and gets it fixed. It still amazes me defenders fall for that pump fake from deep. I'd never jump at him and force him to shoot it, especially since he pump fakes more often than not.

Yes, I agree. They don't keep stats. on 3 point percentage when the ball is passed from inside to the outside for that open look but the 'Cats shoot it pretty well under those circumstances. They just don't seem to be progressing any on offensive execution. The second half (early) against Syracuse they took the lead by being a little more disciplined offensively but reverted to their old ways late.

Don't you know Rubles makes them all in practice??

I think our 3 pt shooting will improve with a more efficient
zone offense (which we exhibited vrs SYR). Attacking the middle
vrs the SAASATEOTSC offense we demonstrated before (Stand Around And Shoot At The End Of The Shot Clock) should
decrease the contested 3's we force up.

In the Marquette game, SK made a higher percentage of shots when he drives & pulls up or when someone passes it out to him and he shoots in rhythm.

Shot selection is the problem here, not anybody's ability to make the 3 ball (except maybe Rubles)

I was all for Rubles firing away hoping he would start hitting based on Mick's practice comment....no more. He should never shoot a three again. Same for JJ. Those are turnovers.

You have to let players play to a certain extent, and telling him he's never allowed to shoot a three likely does more harm than good.

(01-24-2013 03:43 PM)levydl Wrote:  You have to let players play to a certain extent, and telling him he's never allowed to shoot a three likely does more harm than good.

you're kidding right?
Huggs (i know he's not here but he's quotable) used to tell
our poor shooters "there's a reason you were open, they
don't think you can make it".
Telling him early in the offense not to shoot a 3 makes sense to me
when he's 4 for his career.

(01-24-2013 03:52 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 03:43 PM)levydl Wrote:  You have to let players play to a certain extent, and telling him he's never allowed to shoot a three likely does more harm than good.

you're kidding right?
Huggs (i know he's not here but he's quotable) used to tell
our poor shooters "there's a reason you were open, they
don't think you can make it".
Telling him early in the offense not to shoot a 3 makes sense to me
when he's 4 for his career.

Agreed. You have to give players an extended leash to become comfortable enough in the offense and get into a rhythm. But at the same time you have to sit them down, get them to understand what their role is, and how what they do benefits the entire offense/team. Some are perimeter shooters, some are slashers, some are rebounders, etc.

Rubles is someone who should be given a ton of flexibility to play his game inside the three point line but when he's behind the arc he should be told to not shoot the ball.

(01-24-2013 03:52 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 03:43 PM)levydl Wrote:  You have to let players play to a certain extent, and telling him he's never allowed to shoot a three likely does more harm than good.

you're kidding right?
Huggs (i know he's not here but he's quotable) used to tell
our poor shooters "there's a reason you were open, they
don't think you can make it".
Telling him early in the offense not to shoot a 3 makes sense to me
when he's 4 for his career.

I doubt Huggins told many guys they were never allowed to take a 3.

I agree that Rubles probably shouldn't be taking 3s early in the offense. And he didn't against Cuse or Marquette. I can't even remember him doing that in a game that mattered.

Me: Hey Titus
Titus: Sup coach?
Me: You and three point shots...not so hot
Titus: Coach?
Me: Don't ever efing shoot one again.

Coach Cronin has said that he doesn't "green light" or "red light" certain players to shoot. He said he could do that and temporarily increase the team's performance. He pointed out that if he did that, the team would be vastly easier to scout and defend and his winning opportunities would fall the rest of the season.

Consider this ....What Cronin says in public may not be what he says in the locker room.

They have been working a lot with Titus for him to get the ball on the baselines and the high post/elbow area. That is where he can be the most effective. Him taking 36 three pointers equates to about 2 three's a game, but as noted he took 6 in the St. Johns game alone. I do not have a problem with the occasionally three.