Who would you all like to see coach a new Bucs football team and why? ETSU football alum or an outsider?

Just read that ETSU alum, Jamey Chadwell is headed to coach Charleston Southern in the Big South

http://www.footballscoop.com/news/8660-t...n-southern

(01-17-2013 10:37 AM)etsudolfan Wrote:  Who would you all like to see coach a new Bucs football team and why? ETSU football alum or an outsider?

Just read that ETSU alum, Jamey Chadwell is headed to coach Charleston Southern in the Big South

http://www.footballscoop.com/news/8660-t...n-southern

There have been a few examples of older big name coaches helping start up new programs (Schnellenberger, Curry, Coker....). I would love to see us go this route. I doubt Phillip Fulmer is ready to take this type of job as I've heard he still wants to coach big time football, but its worth a phone call.

just for fun, here is a list of current coaches out and in at various universities: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/coach...anges.html

I'm not saying we could land any of these guys but a few names I'm just throwing out there that are probably at least worth a phone call provided they are still available and if we hired a coach this year (which is doubtful):
Philip Fulmer
Gene Chizik
Joker Phillips
Chris Ault
Derek Dooley

Fulmer isn't going to be hired by anyone outside of east Tennessee. Too Bubba. He'd be available if he was willing to take the pay cut and exposure.

As much as I think ETSU needs to seperate themselves from UT, if you could get him the buzz would be tremendous.

But a lot of those guys wouldn't. It's one thing to hire a successful UT coach. It's another to hire a failed UT coach (Dooley), let alone failed Kentucky coach (Phillips).

Bring Fulmer in an as the AD and football coach, let him have two hungry assistants in both jobs he can groom. Use his name to create a splash and get some money(and recruits) rolling in. Then step aside from football in a couple of years and then sometime after that step away from the AD job. He can retire with the legacy of building something from the ground up and not just what he was able to do at UT.
Some people have mentioned Scott Carter as a possible AD but think he probably needs more experience. Bring him in under Fulmer (Fulmer was still at UT when Carter started so has probably at least met, knows him some what). Let Fulmer introduce him to some possible donors and let Scott renew his contacts in the area. I would also keep Sander on retainer as a consultant for while as well.

(01-17-2013 12:03 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Bring Fulmer in an as the AD and football coach, let him have two hungry assistants in both jobs he can groom. Use his name to create a splash and get some money(and recruits) rolling in. Then step aside from football in a couple of years and then sometime after that step away from the AD job. He can retire with the legacy of building something from the ground up and not just what he was able to do at UT.
Some people have mentioned Scott Carter as a possible AD but think he probably needs more experience. Bring him in under Fulmer (Fulmer was still at UT when Carter started so has probably at least met, knows him some what). Let Fulmer introduce him to some possible donors and let Scott renew his contacts in the area. I would also keep Sander on retainer as a consultant for while as well.

that would be an interesting choice....I think the Fulmer idea is a good one, but he would probably be a very, very long shot...but it doesn't hurt to at least gauge his interest...stranger things have happened in the coaching world!

If Fulmer was here, even Bill Meade might talk about the Bucs.

(01-17-2013 12:59 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  If Fulmer was here, even Bill Meade might talk about the Bucs.

Shhh that my ultimate goal, you figured it out, curses!!!
I mean Meade is the shaper of all sports thought in this area.
Need him on board.

(01-17-2013 12:59 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  If Fulmer was here, even Bill Meade might talk about the Bucs.

haha...or if someone from the NFL came

(01-17-2013 11:48 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  Fulmer isn't going to be hired by anyone outside of east Tennessee. Too Bubba. He'd be available if he was willing to take the pay cut and exposure.

As much as I think ETSU needs to seperate themselves from UT, if you could get him the buzz would be tremendous.

But a lot of those guys wouldn't. It's one thing to hire a successful UT coach. It's another to hire a failed UT coach (Dooley), let alone failed Kentucky coach (Phillips).

valid points...the problem is, with this being a new program...its probably going to be hard to get a successful coach, at least from a larger D1 school, to come here. Most likely we will get a retread or an up-and-coming coordinator/coach

(01-17-2013 11:11 AM)etsudolfan Wrote:  just for fun, here is a list of current coaches out and in at various universities: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/coach...anges.html

I'm not saying we could land any of these guys but a few names I'm just throwing out there that are probably at least worth a phone call provided they are still available and if we hired a coach this year (which is doubtful):
Philip Fulmer
Gene Chizik
Joker Phillips
Chris Ault
Derek Dooley

I agree about Fulmer if he would take the job. Sometimes people like that are no longer interested in the "big money" position but just a chance to do something special with a start up program. I think that could really work here.

(01-17-2013 12:08 PM)etsudolfan Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 12:03 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  Bring Fulmer in an as the AD and football coach, let him have two hungry assistants in both jobs he can groom. Use his name to create a splash and get some money(and recruits) rolling in. Then step aside from football in a couple of years and then sometime after that step away from the AD job. He can retire with the legacy of building something from the ground up and not just what he was able to do at UT.
Some people have mentioned Scott Carter as a possible AD but think he probably needs more experience. Bring him in under Fulmer (Fulmer was still at UT when Carter started so has probably at least met, knows him some what). Let Fulmer introduce him to some possible donors and let Scott renew his contacts in the area. I would also keep Sander on retainer as a consultant for while as well.

that would be an interesting choice....I think the Fulmer idea is a good one, but he would probably be a very, very long shot...but it doesn't hurt to at least gauge his interest...stranger things have happened in the coaching world!

Be worth a try. All he could say is "no" and then we move on.

(01-17-2013 01:01 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 12:59 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  If Fulmer was here, even Bill Meade might talk about the Bucs.

Shhh that my ultimate goal, you figured it out, curses!!!
I mean Meade is the shaper of all sports thought in this area.
Need him on board.

I never said that. I did say he was the leading shaper of sports opinion and for years. I go so far as to say his influence on local sports was similar to that of, say, what Myron Cope had on Pittsburgh in the 1970s (and while that comment might be over the head of a lot of people on this board, if you're the Steelers fan you say you are, then it should reasonate with you).

If the amount of attention given to high school basketball on that station was given to ETSU, is it so unreasonable to presume that, for instance, we might have ETSU football but not the Arby's Classic?

Why, on this board, was it presumed so important that people call in and talk about Mullins' retirement on his show if it didn't have traditional influence on the Tri-Cities?

That's why you would hire someone like him or Tom Bradley or whoever. The buzz it creates.

Someone spoke of Billy Taylor and while I do understand he isn't a big name or even the desire to go outside ETSU, he has been so instrumental and interested in the return of ETSU football I would like him considered.

That said, he also has to have a lot of loyalty to Tennessee Tech. Sure he has loyalty to ETSU (I presume), but it may be in his best interests for him to be loyal to the school that wanted him to be the head coach rather than the school that decided his sport wasn't all that important, even if a new regime is in charge.

That said, we are still in the talking stage. ETSU hasn't brought back football yet. We may be getting ahead of ourselves here.

Whoever the new AD and Dr. Noland decide. I`m not going to pretend to know more than a COMPETENT administration.

22 has emerged as the leader of the great unwashed.

(01-17-2013 04:09 PM)BucNut22 Wrote:  Whoever the new AD and Dr. Noland decide. I`m not going to pretend to know more than a COMPETENT administration.

Whoever it is they it will not be an easy task. It'll be interesting to see how Jamey Chadwell does at Charleston Southern, he's basically starting football at that dumpster fire, the only difference being that they have equipment and a football secretary.
I really hope that no matter what, they take a really strong look at how Old Dominion has done things, they've built fast, won faster.
They'll have to call Fulmer, but call him with the idea that he's here 6 years at the most with someone they want to transition into the position.
Dooley is readymade for Kennesaw State if and when they get football going.
No matter what, outsider with local ties. Same philosophy that helped get Noland here.

this guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hes at a good age to be a head coach for the first time. a first-time head coach like this could bring some unbelievable excitement into (essentially) a startup program. he d be coming in from a bigger school thats had some pretty good success lately,,,,,,,,,,,,




John Donovan
Offensive Coordinator / Running Backs Coach


The first Commodore offense coordinated by John Donovan was a big hit on the Vanderbilt campus.

Donovan, who helped develop explosive offenses at the University of Maryland with James Franklin, coordinated the most productive Vanderbilt unit in decades during the 2011 season.

Donovan's offense was the Southeastern Conference's most improved last year. The offense averaged 26.7 points, nearly 10 more than the previous year, and produced more rushing and passing yards than in 2010.

Donovan's top running back last year, junior Zac Stacy, set new single-season team records with 1,193 rushing yards and 14 rushing touchdowns.

The Vanderbilt offense scored 347 total points, the most by any Commodore team since the 1920s. The unit rushed for 13 more touchdowns than in 2010. The team's 339.1-yard total offense average was the highest since Jay Cutler guided the Commodore attack in the mid-2000s. The offense also produced a substantial one-year increase in time of possession by amassing more first downs, enjoying higher third down and red-zone successes, and permitting less turnovers than the 2010 edition.

Franklin and Donovan were key offensive assistants under Ralph Friedgen at Maryland - Franklin serving as coordinator and Donovan working with running backs. After Franklin accepted the Vanderbilt post in December 2010, Donovan called offensive plays during the Terrapins' impressive 51-20 Military Bowl victory. The resounding postseason win capped a 9-4 season for Maryland.

The 2010 Terrapins featured a powerful offensive attack that ranked second in the Atlantic Coast Conference in scoring offense with a 32.2-point average. The unit was also efficient with just 14 turnovers, allowing Maryland to rank No. 6 nationally in turnover margin.

The 2010 campaign was Donovan's fourth at Maryland working with running backs. His top back, Da'Rel Scott, enjoyed a breakout campaign with 1,133 rushing yards and first team All-ACC honors in 2008.

Donovan mentored Maryland's quarterbacks in the 2006 and 2007 campaigns. In 2006, Donovan coached All-ACC quarterback Sam Hollenbach to his finest year as he threw for 2,371 yards and 15 touchdowns, and was named MVP of Maryland's Champs Sports Bowl victory over Purdue. Prior to taking over as running backs coach in 2005, Donovan served as Maryland's assistant recruiting coordinator under Friedgen, who hired Donovan as an offensive graduate assistant from 1998-2000 at Georgia Tech.

A 1997 graduate of Johns Hopkins, Donovan was a three-year starter at defensive back for the Blue Jays, earning 12 career interceptions.

Donovan earned a Bachelor's in Sociology from Johns Hopkins in 1997. He later earned a Master's in Economics from Georgia Tech.

Donovan and his wife, Stacey, are the parents of a son, John Patrick, 6; and two daughters: Cate, 4, and Shea, 2.

The Donovan File
Personal
Date of Birth - Sept. 11, 1974
Hometown - River Edge, N.J.
Alma Mater - Johns Hopkins University
Degrees - Bachelors, John Hopkins, 1997
Masters, economics, Georgia Tech
Family - wife, Stacey; son, John Patrick, and daughters, Cate and Shea

Donovan's Coaching Career
2011-current - Vanderbilt (offensive coordinator/running backs) 2008-10 - Maryland (running backs)
2006-07 - Maryland (quarterbacks)
2005 - Maryland (running backs)
2001-04 - Maryland (assistant recruiting coordinator)
1998-2000 - Georgia Tech (offensive graduate assistant)
1997 - Villanova (assistant secondary)

(01-18-2013 12:28 AM)One Of The Last Buc Linemen Wrote:  this guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hes at a good age to be a head coach for the first time. a first-time head coach like this could bring some unbelievable excitement into (essentially) a startup program. he d be coming in from a bigger school thats had some pretty good success lately,,,,,,,,,,,,




John Donovan
Offensive Coordinator / Running Backs Coach


The first Commodore offense coordinated by John Donovan was a big hit on the Vanderbilt campus.

Donovan, who helped develop explosive offenses at the University of Maryland with James Franklin, coordinated the most productive Vanderbilt unit in decades during the 2011 season.

Donovan's offense was the Southeastern Conference's most improved last year. The offense averaged 26.7 points, nearly 10 more than the previous year, and produced more rushing and passing yards than in 2010.

Donovan's top running back last year, junior Zac Stacy, set new single-season team records with 1,193 rushing yards and 14 rushing touchdowns.

The Vanderbilt offense scored 347 total points, the most by any Commodore team since the 1920s. The unit rushed for 13 more touchdowns than in 2010. The team's 339.1-yard total offense average was the highest since Jay Cutler guided the Commodore attack in the mid-2000s. The offense also produced a substantial one-year increase in time of possession by amassing more first downs, enjoying higher third down and red-zone successes, and permitting less turnovers than the 2010 edition.

Franklin and Donovan were key offensive assistants under Ralph Friedgen at Maryland - Franklin serving as coordinator and Donovan working with running backs. After Franklin accepted the Vanderbilt post in December 2010, Donovan called offensive plays during the Terrapins' impressive 51-20 Military Bowl victory. The resounding postseason win capped a 9-4 season for Maryland.

The 2010 Terrapins featured a powerful offensive attack that ranked second in the Atlantic Coast Conference in scoring offense with a 32.2-point average. The unit was also efficient with just 14 turnovers, allowing Maryland to rank No. 6 nationally in turnover margin.

The 2010 campaign was Donovan's fourth at Maryland working with running backs. His top back, Da'Rel Scott, enjoyed a breakout campaign with 1,133 rushing yards and first team All-ACC honors in 2008.

Donovan mentored Maryland's quarterbacks in the 2006 and 2007 campaigns. In 2006, Donovan coached All-ACC quarterback Sam Hollenbach to his finest year as he threw for 2,371 yards and 15 touchdowns, and was named MVP of Maryland's Champs Sports Bowl victory over Purdue. Prior to taking over as running backs coach in 2005, Donovan served as Maryland's assistant recruiting coordinator under Friedgen, who hired Donovan as an offensive graduate assistant from 1998-2000 at Georgia Tech.

A 1997 graduate of Johns Hopkins, Donovan was a three-year starter at defensive back for the Blue Jays, earning 12 career interceptions.

Donovan earned a Bachelor's in Sociology from Johns Hopkins in 1997. He later earned a Master's in Economics from Georgia Tech.

Donovan and his wife, Stacey, are the parents of a son, John Patrick, 6; and two daughters: Cate, 4, and Shea, 2.

The Donovan File
Personal
Date of Birth - Sept. 11, 1974
Hometown - River Edge, N.J.
Alma Mater - Johns Hopkins University
Degrees - Bachelors, John Hopkins, 1997
Masters, economics, Georgia Tech
Family - wife, Stacey; son, John Patrick, and daughters, Cate and Shea

Donovan's Coaching Career
2011-current - Vanderbilt (offensive coordinator/running backs) 2008-10 - Maryland (running backs)
2006-07 - Maryland (quarterbacks)
2005 - Maryland (running backs)
2001-04 - Maryland (assistant recruiting coordinator)
1998-2000 - Georgia Tech (offensive graduate assistant)
1997 - Villanova (assistant secondary)

a very intriguing choice....I wonder if we will be able to draw a good experienced HC or if due to it being a new program and all, will have to bring in a young coordinator?

What Franklin has done at Vanderbilt is impressive. I'd pay attention to anyone on his team.