(01-16-2013 07:31 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote: (01-15-2013 07:57 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote: (01-15-2013 07:26 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote: (01-15-2013 07:18 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote: I personally think USM would be an atrocious add. I prefer wait on one of the schools with upside. The 3rd best university in the poorest state in the US is a pretty unattractive option for me. No need to add anyone now, i'd prefer wait and see how UTSA, UMass, Charlotte, Georgia St. ODU etc develop, or see if some of the western schools who arent interested now come around. No point in adding any of the remaining options.
Hate to do this BEAST, but USM > USF...
Based on what? Youve gone completely off the deep end lately. Its not our fault your school wasnt good enough for the ACC.
You asked, so you shall receive:
Southern Mississippi has a tradition of winning, they had 18 straight winning seasons and over the last decade they've averaged 7.2 wins a year with two 9-win seasons and one 11-win season. Over the past few years, their basketball has become much more solid and has probably overtaken USF. I think it is simply laughable for a school like USF (the poster boy for potential), to look down upon an addition of a program like Southern Miss that has achieved so much and has been a successful athletic program.
All time win %:
USM - .594
USF - .624
Bowl record:
USM - 10-12
USF - 4-2
As you say, over the last decade USM has averaged 7.2 wins (not sure if you're counting their 0-12 this year), USF has averaged 6.7 facing much harder competition. Not sure if you threw out USMs 0-12 to get that 7.2 though, if you did its only fair to throw out USFs 3-9 last year and put us at 7.3. This year was our first time losing to a non bcs team since 2004.
Their market has 150k in it, compared to 2.7 million in the tampa area.
Their stadium seats 30k less than ours and their attendance even in 2011 when they had a very good team was in the high 20s. I know high 20s in attendance will impress a cincy fan, whos school struggles to fill their 30k seat stadium even in good years. Compare that to USF which is mid 40s in a bad year and low 50s in a good year.
Both USF & USM had similar ncaat droughts, both returned last year, we won 2 games, they lost in the first round.
The Sun Dome with its new renovations is light years ahead of their basketball arena. All of our facilities are brand new and far superior to theirs.
Our revenue and athletic funding dwarfs theirs. To my knowledge they are nearly completely broke at this point.
USM did well to win so many games in CUSA for the past 10 years or so, but outside of that and the fact that theyve been around forever i cant think of one legit thing that would put them ahead of us.
Not to mention, there have been 11 teams that have been invited and accepted to the BE between USF & USM, and likely many more that were invited and declined, with USM not even on deck, being overlooked next by Tulsa and UMass as the next 2 in. This means even your school doesnt share your opinion.