(01-16-2013 08:57 PM)bostontiger Wrote:  On-campus stadium NOW! Go Tigers GO!
Bring alumni, friends, family, and high schoolers to campus! It is not rocket science.


Beat Harvard and all the future CUSA teams in bball! Go Pastner and Fuentes!

Yeah... there's only one Fuente coaching here. Although the Fuentes are a lovely family.

Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

If we can't even stream the radio broadcast for Tiger fans outside the local area, then we are intentionally trying to suppress our fanbase. There is just no if about it. It is what it is. Getting rid of the local tv broadcasts on non-nationally televised games does not help to expand the fan base locally either. AT LEAST have the tape delayed broadcast of the games on PBS like they were back in the day. Why on earth they got rid of the local tv broadcasts is beyond me. What's next, getting rid of radio as well? Ordinarily you'd think this is a crazy thought, but so was getting rid of those local tv broadcasts back in the 90's. So it would not surprise me AT ALL if one day I log on here and hear everyone complaining about no more radio broadcasts. I mean it's already gone for 99% of the country. So it's the next logical step. I give it 5 years and it will be gone. You'll have to somehow find that cheezy jumbotron feed online, but in five years instead of it having radio broadcast slapped onto it, you'll just have a direct link to the Forum public announcement system. lol Call me crazy, but again, I thought getting rid of the tv broadcasters was crazy 10 years ago and even crazier to get rid of the radio broadcast for internet users just a few years ago. It's coming! Make no mistake about it, following the Tigers is no where near as fun as it use to be back in the day.

(01-17-2013 02:53 AM)scorpius Wrote:  If we can't even stream the radio broadcast for Tiger fans outside the local area, then we are intentionally trying to suppress our fanbase. There is just no if about it. It is what it is. Getting rid of the local tv broadcasts on non-nationally televised games does not help to expand the fan base locally either. AT LEAST have the tape delayed broadcast of the games on PBS like they were back in the day. Why on earth they got rid of the local tv broadcasts is beyond me. What's next, getting rid of radio as well? Ordinarily you'd think this is a crazy thought, but so was getting rid of those local tv broadcasts back in the 90's. So it would not surprise me AT ALL if one day I log on here and hear everyone complaining about no more radio broadcasts. I mean it's already gone for 99% of the country. So it's the next logical step. I give it 5 years and it will be gone. You'll have to somehow find that cheezy jumbotron feed online, but in five years instead of it having radio broadcast slapped onto it, you'll just have a direct link to the Forum public announcement system. lol Call me crazy, but again, I thought getting rid of the tv broadcasters was crazy 10 years ago and even crazier to get rid of the radio broadcast for internet users just a few years ago. It's coming! Make no mistake about it, following the Tigers is no where near as fun as it use to be back in the day.

maybe you are new to the board, so I will try to explain this again. CUSA holds the tv/cable/internet rights to all of our games...

RC was not the sharpest tool but the TV debacle is not his fault.

we've played quite regularly at pringles park in jackson for baseball.

here's the problem with truck stops. i found this at a truck stop in mississippi:

(01-16-2013 05:07 PM)OldManTiger Wrote:  This is something that bothers me when I am forced to travel away from Memphis and can't get games on the radio or TV? How would you try to extend the Tigers reach to the Tennessee River to Grenada, and about 2/3 of the way to Little Rock? I guess this is called "marketing". Examples:
1. Give radio stations free access to broadcast for the first two (2)years of a five (5) year contract for football and m/w basketball;
2. Take football and basketball practices to selected local venues such as high school football fields and gyms, respectively;
3. Allow non-revenue sports, including baseball and softball, to have regular season games at selected locations, e.g., Pringles Field in Jackson.
4. Allow the Pom Squad to go to multiple venues to be "Performing Ambassadors" for our school.

I recognize that all of these have inherent risks and problems, but what are the possibilities? I welcome all comments.

TV and radio , especially TV . Up here 80 miles north of Memphis it's almost impossible to get any games . Direct TV has helped but sometimes a search is needed and then a disapointment follows when you think you're geting the game and dont . Winning is also a big factor too . Before our NC run you would see an occasional TIGERS bumper sticker , after there are quite a few more . So winning and doing it to at least a regional audience would be a big help . jmo

One more thing , and most here may know this . When I called direct they told me the school and the teams decided where the games were shown . I dont know if this is true but it is what they told me .

Put road games on local tv. Or at least do the delayed broadcast like channel 10 used to do.

(01-17-2013 01:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

That's absolutely correct. The home of the blues and the birth place of rock n roll should have the best band in the land. No excuses.

(01-17-2013 09:45 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 01:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

That's absolutely correct. The home of the blues and the birth place of rock n roll should have the best band in the land. No excuses.

People are going to go to a football game because of the marching band?

If that is the case TSU should get 100K people a game.

(01-16-2013 11:36 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 08:43 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Wouldn't hurt to have a hat for sale outside The city limits.

Favorite game of mine is to go to a local 'Lids' type store and ask for a Tigers' hat.

Usually, they look at me like I'm high.

Don't know which "Lids" type stores you go into, but the one in WolfChase Mall now has about 10 Memphis designs to choose from. They are now a lot smarter than they were about 15 years ago when they first opened without any. I particularly remember a store near the Corky's in Cordova that tried to sell only Tennessee stuff, but after a year or too, added Tiger merchandise in order to stay in business. Some day, the stores around here will also wise up and figure out they they will sell a lot MORE Tiger stuff when it is dark blue and medium gray.

Create a list of marketing and advertising projects. Then ask local ad agencies to take these on as PRO BONO projects for the U of M. (1) One can be designing outdoor billboards and getting them put up within the local marketing area. Coop the boards with local and regional advertisers that are Tiger supporters. 50% of the board goes to the advertiser and 50% goes to the U of M. The ad agency places the space and designs the boards and obtains the funds from the co op advertisers. (2) Barter tickets to the games to radio stations for advertising. The U of M gets the ad time to promote the U of M. The stations then get to give the game tickets away on the air giving the U of M even more exposure. Get an ad agency to take this on as a PRO BONO project. (3) Do market research in those areas with the local media to see what they will do to promote the U of M in their area. Ask an ad agency to take this on as a PRO BONO project. There are a lot of things the U of M can get donated by interested alumni, especially ones in key positions in local ad agencies.

No marketing. It is a University...a school. They don't have the budget for it. Just Win.

It also always helps to get local rural recruits. Say, one guy from Tipton County, one from Brownsville and Humbolt, a West Memphis player or two. That usually gets the interest up in those places.

Put them on local TV or WKNO. It is the reason there are Memphis basketball fans in the boothill of Missouri. They were not football fans because they didn't see the football games but they have fond memories of Keith Lee.[/align]

(01-17-2013 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 09:45 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 01:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

That's absolutely correct. The home of the blues and the birth place of rock n roll should have the best band in the land. No excuses.

People are going to go to a football game because of the marching band?

If that is the case TSU should get 100K people a game.

Each band member has parents, brothers, sisters, and classmates from high school. They all come to visit on weekends during a kid's Freshman year. They will come to a game at least once. If it's a good experience, you may hook them for the kid's college years. A few you'll hook for life.

Meanwhile, these kids are recruiters for more students to enroll. If the band gets better, then more kids want to come here to be in the band. It feeds on itself if done right.

A school our size should have 350 to 400 on the field. That would put a few thousand new folks in the stands every year. It's up to us to get them back the second time, but it's a guaranteed pipeline for new butts in the seats.

EDIT TO ADD: Of course you need to target kids in the 100 mile circle. If you do that, then the parents that come talk to their friends, they want to watch the games, the look for radio coverage, etc...

(01-17-2013 10:59 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 11:36 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 08:43 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Wouldn't hurt to have a hat for sale outside The city limits.

Favorite game of mine is to go to a local 'Lids' type store and ask for a Tigers' hat.

Usually, they look at me like I'm high.

Don't know which "Lids" type stores you go into, but the one in WolfChase Mall now has about 10 Memphis designs to choose from. They are now a lot smarter than they were about 15 years ago when they first opened without any. I particularly remember a store near the Corky's in Cordova that tried to sell only Tennessee stuff, but after a year or too, added Tiger merchandise in order to stay in business. Some day, the stores around here will also wise up and figure out they they will sell a lot MORE Tiger stuff when it is dark blue and medium gray.

I am going to go out on a limb here, but I'm thinking that since he's from New York, that he probably means a Lids in New York where the closest thing to a blue hat says Mets on it.

Also, I know all about "The Tennessee Sports Zone" over there by Corkys. I went in there one day and it is still 85% UT gear in there. I refuse to spend any money in a store whose signage on the building is in an Orange and White checker pattern font. Yuk!

(01-17-2013 01:54 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 09:45 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 01:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

That's absolutely correct. The home of the blues and the birth place of rock n roll should have the best band in the land. No excuses.

People are going to go to a football game because of the marching band?

If that is the case TSU should get 100K people a game.

Each band member has parents, brothers, sisters, and classmates from high school. They all come to visit on weekends during a kid's Freshman year. They will come to a game at least once. If it's a good experience, you may hook them for the kid's college years. A few you'll hook for life.

Meanwhile, these kids are recruiters for more students to enroll. If the band gets better, then more kids want to come here to be in the band. It feeds on itself if done right.

A school our size should have 350 to 400 on the field. That would put a few thousand new folks in the stands every year. It's up to us to get them back the second time, but it's a guaranteed pipeline for new butts in the seats.

EDIT TO ADD: Of course you need to target kids in the 100 mile circle. If you do that, then the parents that come talk to their friends, they want to watch the games, the look for radio coverage, etc...

This is actually a reasonable idea that I'd never considered. I think these same types of thoughts when ever I see some big group of young kids get recognized on the field during a game. That these kids could be future Tiger's fans.

(01-17-2013 02:21 PM)btipton1 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 10:59 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 11:36 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 08:43 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Wouldn't hurt to have a hat for sale outside The city limits.

Favorite game of mine is to go to a local 'Lids' type store and ask for a Tigers' hat.

Usually, they look at me like I'm high.

Don't know which "Lids" type stores you go into, but the one in WolfChase Mall now has about 10 Memphis designs to choose from. They are now a lot smarter than they were about 15 years ago when they first opened without any. I particularly remember a store near the Corky's in Cordova that tried to sell only Tennessee stuff, but after a year or too, added Tiger merchandise in order to stay in business. Some day, the stores around here will also wise up and figure out they they will sell a lot MORE Tiger stuff when it is dark blue and medium gray.

I am going to go out on a limb here, but I'm thinking that since he's from New York, that he probably means a Lids in New York where the closest thing to a blue hat says Mets on it.

Also, I know all about "The Tennessee Sports Zone" over there by Corkys. I went in there one day and it is still 85% UT gear in there. I refuse to spend any money in a store whose signage on the building is in an Orange and White checker pattern font. Yuk!

Yeah, I meant outside Memphis. Almost never found a hat of my team in VA Beach, SD CA, St. Louis, New Orleans, or NYC. Due to growing up in a military family, I'm a life long Tigers fan who mostly only visited Memphis at holidays after 5 years old despite being born there and 90% of family living there.

That's not a big deal, we're a regional fan base, so I understand my existence as an outlier, it was just me trying (and failing) to be funny

BTW, I will say this. I love grey gear. I always buy the grey when available...

(01-17-2013 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 09:45 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 01:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  Seriously, invest a pot of money in the marching band.

A 400 member marching band full of area kids on reasonable scholarships would do a lot for the crowds and the school.

That's absolutely correct. The home of the blues and the birth place of rock n roll should have the best band in the land. No excuses.

People are going to go to a football game because of the marching band?

If that is the case TSU should get 100K people a game.

200 more right off the bat!

(01-17-2013 01:04 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  No marketing. It is a University...a school. They don't have the budget for it. Just Win.

It also always helps to get local rural recruits. Say, one guy from Tipton County, one from Brownsville and Humbolt, a West Memphis player or two. That usually gets the interest up in those places.

you should read the article that was in a texas magazine a few years ago how mack brown helped orchestrate ways to bring in all kinds of new revenue at the university of texas. as if they needed it.

anytime you can get your school mentioned by name or mascot is good marketing and exposure. provide apparel that people actually would like to buy and wear. dozens of approaches out there that we haven't even tried, because of the good ole boys who have been out there for 40 years.

(01-17-2013 01:04 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  No marketing. It is a University...a school. They don't have the budget for it. Just Win.

It also always helps to get local rural recruits. Say, one guy from Tipton County, one from Brownsville and Humbolt, a West Memphis player or two. That usually gets the interest up in those places.

PRO BONO means for free. There is no need for money. It's actual meaning is "Done without compensation for the public good." In our case, we recently did some PRO BONO work for the Journalism Dept. and THE HELMSMAN.