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(01-16-2013 04:20 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  I'd love to see Louisiana-Lafayette in CUSA West. Their a perfect geographic fit, they have a good football program, competivive basketball and their fans travel. Why does Louisiana Tech have a problem with them? Arkansas State would be a good additon also.

I like the idea of going to 16 members. Lets just get it over with. While we're at it, lets push Tulane, ECU and Tulsa out for 2013.

I just don't think 16 is a good idea. Too many mouths to feed.
The WAC proved that number isn't workable.
IMO, 14 schools are bordering on too big.
12 programs are good. 10 programs with no championship could be the best.
That being said, for his job security, Banowsky would have 30 programs if the University Presidents would let him.
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Another expansion thread03-drunk
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(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Be fine with me to close out every thread started by some ULL troll, especially those who deliberately come on this board and flame by using that name. The name issue will be brought up every time they attempt to usurp it. It happens on every thread ever started about that school, which undermines any serious discussion they hope to have about ULL. They know what is going to happen when they post with that name, but they are determined to shove it down other people's faces. Your admonition should be directed to them.
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(01-16-2013 04:57 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Be fine with me to close out every thread started by some ULL troll, especially those who deliberately come on this board and flame by using that name. The name issue will be brought up every time they attempt to usurp it. It happens on every thread ever started about that school, which undermines any serious discussion they hope to have about ULL. They know what is going to happen when they post with that name, but they are determined to shove it down other people's faces. Your admonition should be directed to them.

Tech and the one Tulane guy are the ONLY ones who have a problem with our calling ourselves Louisiana athletically. Use of that name is legal and WILL continue. Don't let their personal biases influence anyone here. If we are ever admitted to CUSA, this issue will be resolved from the beginning. The conference will benefit from the Louisiana name for one of its members. This name issue will not continue beyond this point. But, leave it to Tech to continue it and continue to bash Louisiana. Their insecurity is obvious. I don't see anyone calling Charlotte UNCC anymore even though that is their legal name. Time to get over this and move on.
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We are not the ones ashamed of our name and status.
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(01-16-2013 05:12 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 04:57 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Be fine with me to close out every thread started by some ULL troll, especially those who deliberately come on this board and flame by using that name. The name issue will be brought up every time they attempt to usurp it. It happens on every thread ever started about that school, which undermines any serious discussion they hope to have about ULL. They know what is going to happen when they post with that name, but they are determined to shove it down other people's faces. Your admonition should be directed to them.

Tech and the one Tulane guy are the ONLY ones who have a problem with our calling ourselves Louisiana athletically. Use of that name is legal and WILL continue. Don't let their personal biases influence anyone here. If we are ever admitted to CUSA, this issue will be resolved from the beginning. The conference will benefit from the Louisiana name for one of its members. This name issue will not continue beyond this point. But, leave it to Tech to continue it and continue to bash Louisiana. Their insecurity is obvious. I don't see anyone calling Charlotte UNCC anymore even though that is their legal name. Time to get over this and move on.


Mods just move this to smack before it devolves. LaLa fans live in lala land. THis is now way off topic anyway. And the topic sucks. Like ULL. 05-stirthepot

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(01-16-2013 01:43 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 01:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  For the C-USA folks, I have a question that I haven't seen brought up here much. If you look at how colleges are defined (e.g. national, regional, etc.), every single C-USA member except Marshall is classified as a "national university."

Every single new addition is classified as a "national university."

A good number of what's left if there was any desire to add any other schools are "regional" universities. Does this matter to you? And does this matter to your school? Tulsa excluded because we already know how their adminstration feels about this from an academic perspective. Here's a quick run down of the remaing Belt schools and a few others I've seen mentioned including their classification...

Regional
Troy
Western Kentucky
UL Monroe
Ark. State

National
South Alabama
UL Lafayette

Others
**All MAC schools are national except Eastern Michigan
**UMass and Delaware are national
**James Madison (Regional)
**Georgia State (National)
**NMSU (National)
**Texas State (Regional)

it doesn't matter that much to me. I just want any new member to have a good sports set up, and respectable academic standards, or be in the process of upgrading themselves in those areas. I personally favor adding Louisiana Lafayette, but that is just me.

Since Louisiana was mentioned as a National University, and many here don't know much about us, whose opinions are possible skewed by cr*p spewed by Tech posters, or maybe formed an incorrect opinion based on simply the Louisiana Lafayette name, here are a few other facts to share:

Louisiana is a Top 377 university by Princeton Review with nationally ranked PhDs in Computer Science, Engineering, Business and Nursing. Only LSU, Tulane and Louisiana are ranked in the state by Princeton. Louisiana is a Rockefeller Institute of Goverenment Top 100 public research universities with over $65M and growing quickly. Louisiana is a Top 10 fastest growing R&D universities in the US. Louisiana is a Carnegie Nationally Ranked Research University with a RU/H (Research University / High Research activity) rating, similar to Ole Miss, Auburn, Baylor and Alabama. Louisiana's endowment is over $145,000,000 and growing. Louisiana has over 17,000 students. Just spent over $300MM on-campus building new dorms, new Student Union and renovating classroom buildings. Expect enrollment to hit 20,000 within 5 years. About to announce a Master Plan for athletics increasing football stadium to over 50,000 seats, new suites and press box, new athletics building to include new weight room, meeting rooms, recruiting facility, new basketball practice facility and major baseball stadium renovations. Already have an Indoor Practice Facility. Maybe this is why Tech is so concerned about our name and possible affiliation with CUSA.
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Playing around with numbers.

If the BCS distribution is roughly similar to the current plan. CUSA would receive $1 million per team from the new BCS as a 14 team league if it finishes behind MWC and Big East.

If Big East takes 1 CUSA and CUSA then takes 5 Sun Belt to effectively kill the Sun Belt. Using the same formula but for only four leagues, each CUSA member would gain $69,000 per team in BCS revenue with the same finish.
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(01-16-2013 05:28 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 05:12 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 04:57 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Be fine with me to close out every thread started by some ULL troll, especially those who deliberately come on this board and flame by using that name. The name issue will be brought up every time they attempt to usurp it. It happens on every thread ever started about that school, which undermines any serious discussion they hope to have about ULL. They know what is going to happen when they post with that name, but they are determined to shove it down other people's faces. Your admonition should be directed to them.

Tech and the one Tulane guy are the ONLY ones who have a problem with our calling ourselves Louisiana athletically. Use of that name is legal and WILL continue. Don't let their personal biases influence anyone here. If we are ever admitted to CUSA, this issue will be resolved from the beginning. The conference will benefit from the Louisiana name for one of its members. This name issue will not continue beyond this point. But, leave it to Tech to continue it and continue to bash Louisiana. Their insecurity is obvious. I don't see anyone calling Charlotte UNCC anymore even though that is their legal name. Time to get over this and move on.


Mods just move this to smack before it devolves. LaLa fans live in lala land. THis is now way off topic anyway. And the topic sucks. Like ULL. 05-stirthepot

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Then quit bringing it up. Isn't Tulane moving to the nBE. Then, "Shut the F*ck up, Donnie"!
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My 2 cents...I have no problem w/ ULL I think they'd probably be a good addition for the furture. I've seen on blowups on the SunBelt's board regarding this (much to my lurking amusement) but this is a C-USA board and if Tech fans want to refer to them as U La La I can understand that. I agree with JD that if ULL fans don't like it then they don't have to be here
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(01-16-2013 05:30 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 01:43 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 01:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  For the C-USA folks, I have a question that I haven't seen brought up here much. If you look at how colleges are defined (e.g. national, regional, etc.), every single C-USA member except Marshall is classified as a "national university."

Every single new addition is classified as a "national university."

A good number of what's left if there was any desire to add any other schools are "regional" universities. Does this matter to you? And does this matter to your school? Tulsa excluded because we already know how their adminstration feels about this from an academic perspective. Here's a quick run down of the remaing Belt schools and a few others I've seen mentioned including their classification...

Regional
Troy
Western Kentucky
UL Monroe
Ark. State

National
South Alabama
UL Lafayette

Others
**All MAC schools are national except Eastern Michigan
**UMass and Delaware are national
**James Madison (Regional)
**Georgia State (National)
**NMSU (National)
**Texas State (Regional)

it doesn't matter that much to me. I just want any new member to have a good sports set up, and respectable academic standards, or be in the process of upgrading themselves in those areas. I personally favor adding Louisiana Lafayette, but that is just me.

Since Louisiana was mentioned as a National University, and many here don't know much about us, whose opinions are possible skewed by cr*p spewed by Tech posters, or maybe formed an incorrect opinion based on simply the Louisiana Lafayette name, here are a few other facts to share:

Louisiana is a Top 377 university by Princeton Review with nationally ranked PhDs in Computer Science, Engineering, Business and Nursing. Only LSU, Tulane and Louisiana are ranked in the state by Princeton. Louisiana is a Rockefeller Institute of Goverenment Top 100 public research universities with over $65M and growing quickly. Louisiana is a Top 10 fastest growing R&D universities in the US. Louisiana is a Carnegie Nationally Ranked Research University with a RU/H (Research University / High Research activity) rating, similar to Ole Miss, Auburn, Baylor and Alabama. Louisiana's endowment is over $145,000,000 and growing. Louisiana has over 17,000 students. Just spent over $300MM on-campus building new dorms, new Student Union and renovating classroom buildings. Expect enrollment to hit 20,000 within 5 years. About to announce a Master Plan for athletics increasing football stadium to over 50,000 seats, new suites and press box, new athletics building to include new weight room, meeting rooms, recruiting facility, new basketball practice facility and major baseball stadium renovations. Already have an Indoor Practice Facility. Maybe this is why Tech is so concerned about our name and possible affiliation with CUSA.

Still scratching my head here. When did ULM make all these improvements? Good for Monroe! Upping that national profile!!
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(01-16-2013 01:20 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Just get it over with....


WEST

UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
Southern Miss


EAST

UAB
Middle Tennessee
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Old Dominion
Charlotte
Florida Atlantic
FIU


Before jumping the gun to 16 I would like to see how schools like Georgia State and Texas State develop.
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(01-16-2013 05:12 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  Tech and the one Tulane guy are the ONLY ones who have a problem with our calling ourselves Louisiana athletically. Use of that name is legal and WILL continue. Don't let their personal biases influence anyone here. If we are ever admitted to CUSA, this issue will be resolved from the beginning. The conference will benefit from the Louisiana name for one of its members. This name issue will not continue beyond this point. But, leave it to Tech to continue it and continue to bash Louisiana. Their insecurity is obvious. I don't see anyone calling Charlotte UNCC anymore even though that is their legal name. Time to get over this and move on.
Tulane doesn't give a crap whether you use the name. In fact, they relinquished it to you. LSU's the one who doesn't want you to us that name at all. They and the taxpayers/voters of La., although I doubt most care about what you call your athletic teams.
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You mean to ULL AND ULM.
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As a Tech fan...
1.) I don't care what ULL calls themselves. I don't see how it effects my school or team. I seriously doubt any tech recruit is like whoa...I can play for Louisiana instead of Louisiana Tech...I just don't think the name or brand value doesn't matter in this State unless it is LSU or SEC.
2.) Conference realignment will happen. Tech fans must realize that we may end up in a conference with either ULM or ULL. I vote ULL every day over the (University of Losers and Morons) Think about If you wanted to travel to an away game, would you want to go to Monroe, or Lafayette. ULL any day over ULM.
I guess I'm the only tech fan that thinks that way.
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(01-16-2013 09:33 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 01:20 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Just get it over with....


WEST

UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
Southern Miss


EAST

UAB
Middle Tennessee
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Old Dominion
Charlotte
Florida Atlantic
FIU


Before jumping the gun to 16 I would like to see how schools like Georgia State and Texas State develop.

16 is a bit large and there is the question of what the money looks like at that point.
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Cajunnation started a thread just like this one over on the Sunbelt board titled "The Sunbelt 16". I think that he is much closer to being correct in that thread as far as what the conference to which ULL will belong will soon look like.
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(01-17-2013 07:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Cajunnation started a thread just like this one over on the Sunbelt board titled "The Sunbelt 16". I think that he is much closer to being correct in that thread as far as what the conference to which ULL will belong will soon look like.

I'm not trying to correctly predict the future.

I think each conference would benefit long term by developing these 16 team lineups. Obviously, they can't both be correct, but that is not my point here.

And, just for the record, I didn't turn this thread into a name debate. Jealous, insecure idiots did it.
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(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Sorry you feel that way, Owl. As the University of Louisiana System member school represented here in Conference USA, we are not going to roll over and accept any "University of Louisiana" crap. While it means nothing outside the state of Louisiana, inside our state it means a great deal. We are under the same governing system as the institution in Lafayette. It is called the "University of Louisiana System" and there is NO "flagship" of the system. This doesn't sit well in Lafayette, where they've wanted the "University of Louisiana" name, and the defacto FLAGSHIP status for a very long time. While they can't LEGALLY call themselves "THE University of Louisiana" they are trying to establish a perceived State Flagship status via the marketing perspective of their teams.

This is simply insulting to other members of the same university system. I respectfully ask you and everyone else here to refrain from identifying the institution in Lafayette as "Louisiana" or any variation thereof, which would influence a perception of stature in the U of L System that they are not. They are correctly called University of Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Lafayette or UL-L.

This is a CONFERENCE USA fan board. Louisiana Tech is a MEMBER school here. UL-Lafayette is NOT. If they don't want to correctly identify themselves on THIS board, you need to threaten THEM, not Louisiana Tech fans.
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(01-17-2013 10:36 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:36 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(01-16-2013 02:20 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Louisiana is a state not a university, and this would be a nightmare for Tech fans who want nothing to do with ULL or ULM.

Dont.

Or I swear by God and Sonny Jesus I will lock every thread that goes down this path and warn those who keep it up. Keep the name issues out of here. 05-mafia

Sorry you feel that way, Owl. As the University of Louisiana System member school represented here in Conference USA, we are not going to roll over and accept any "University of Louisiana" crap. While it means nothing outside the state of Louisiana, inside our state it means a great deal. We are under the same governing system as the institution in Lafayette. It is called the "University of Louisiana System" and there is NO "flagship" of the system. This doesn't sit well in Lafayette, where they've wanted the "University of Louisiana" name, and the defacto FLAGSHIP status for a very long time. While they can't LEGALLY call themselves "THE University of Louisiana" they are trying to establish a perceived State Flagship status via the marketing perspective of their teams.

This is simply insulting to other members of the same university system. I respectfully ask you and everyone else here to refrain from identifying the institution in Lafayette as "Louisiana" or any variation thereof, which would influence a perception of stature in the U of L System that they are not. They are correctly called University of Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Lafayette or UL-L.

This is a CONFERENCE USA fan board. Louisiana Tech is a MEMBER school here. UL-Lafayette is NOT. If they don't want to correctly identify themselves on THIS board, you need to threaten THEM, not Louisiana Tech fans.

The La. Tech propaganda rant aside...any fan of other CUSA member institutions who wishes to see the the facilities that the Ragin Cajuns presently compete in can go to http://www.ragincajuns.com and click on facilities...make sure that you scroll down each facility page to see all photos. Keep in mind that major upgrades are being planned for all Facilities with the exception of Lamson Park(softball) and the Cajundome(basketball). I think that you will find that our facilities, even now fit in very well with CUSA members...Good luck to all CUSA members in the future..
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