Want new blood, preferably but not necessarily young blood. I actually think paring Noland with an older, more experienced AD isn't a bad idea. Whoever it is needs to understand marketing, building a brand, and raising money. These days an MBA is more important than actual coaching exerperince.

We're hiring a CBO more than anything.

(01-15-2013 05:40 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  Won't be able to afford Fulmer.

With Carter, if I am not mistaken, this guy started as David Mullins' lackey. Now, I realize that was 10 years ago.

But if you can remember when some students brought signs protesting the decision to drop football with "Fire Mullins" and the like. Carter was in on taking their signs away.

If I remember correctly, he went to the students and suggested they bring signs saying not "Bring Back Football" but "We Love Football."

That's not the leader I want.

That's not a leader at all.

Again, folks, let's move away from the mindset of being UT's subservient, okay?

I think you are a little off base on SC. He did the GA job and moved on. I was out with the signs and he didn't intervene, he might have asked the players to rethink the wording but if he did, I didn't hear about it... so many you know something I didn't know about.

He was involved in other things that were very supportive of football and stalling football which included working with Paty to stall the decision. He learned very early in his career about being politically astute and sometimes that means just doing your job and moving on if you can't support what's going on.

I still see him as my "dream AD"... but maybe he needs 10 more years to get the maturity on him that would be needed to deal with the kinds of personalities you deal with in terms of coaches. He's had really great success at UT and learned from a great model of fundraising, facility development, and "friendraising"... he's a top-notch young man with a very bright future.

(01-15-2013 06:23 PM)Goldfinger Wrote:  You're basing all of that on guess work. But then again you did have Karen Kemp at number six in your original listing for new AD's. Same ole Same ole.

Not at all. If you knew me at all you'd know where I'm coming from on my list.
And Coach Kemp was listed originally not to be an A.D., but potentially an assistant A.D./Senior Women's Admin.
An A.D. candidate will have to have ties to the community and be an outsider.
It's really simple, people with money are not going to give money to a total stranger, or atleast not the amount needed.

Did I mention that Dave Mullins is no longer the A.D. at ETSU?

(01-15-2013 07:28 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(01-15-2013 06:23 PM)Goldfinger Wrote:  You're basing all of that on guess work. But then again you did have Karen Kemp at number six in your original listing for new AD's. Same ole Same ole.

Not at all. If you knew me at all you'd know where I'm coming from on my list.
And Coach Kemp was listed originally not to be an A.D., but potentially an assistant A.D./Senior Women's Admin.
An A.D. candidate will have to have ties to the community and be an outsider.
It's really simple, people with money are not going to give money to a total stranger, or atleast not the amount needed.

Did I mention that Dave Mullins is no longer the A.D. at ETSU?

Ties are NOT required. What is required is new blood from outside the system with charisma in droves. Think a Les Robinson type. Etsu has been governed by townies for far too long. A complete and total overhaul is required. And Karen Kemp was on your list of ADs.

(01-15-2013 08:08 PM)Goldfinger Wrote:  Ties are NOT required. What is required is new blood from outside the system with charisma in droves. Think a Les Robinson type. Etsu has been governed by townies for far too long. A complete and total overhaul is required. And Karen Kemp was on your list of ADs.

This is exactly what I said in a thread found under the basketball area on Christmas day:

Quote:1. Keener Fry
2. Todd Stansbury
3. Phillip Fulmer
4. Scotty C.
5. Karen Kemp (Probably would be a great SWA) 6. Bill Myers - Senior Assoc. A.D. at UTK. He knows his stuff
7. David Blackburn
8. Les Robinson

UT isn't a part of the TBR system. It is its' own deal. In a change of philosphy, you do eliminate Keener and Les, and Todd I get it. He's got a better job.
We can go back and forth but what you have to recognize is ETSU is very regional based, and alot of the same businesses that ETSU will be drilling the crap out of for dollars are the same businesses that buy UT season tickets. It becomes very convenient to bring in someone who doesn't have ties to ETSU but does have ties to people within the region who are going to have to come through with alot of dollars.
Make no mistake about it, guys like Blackburn and Myers are not townie in the least, they're in the business of sellin' s#!t and raising money.
That said, the time is now for us to be CIVIL in this. Ten years of back and forth, arguing and we've gotten the first two steps of what we've all wanted. No more Stanton and Dave Mullins is no longer the athletic director at ETSU. Don't get impatient, the time is now to be positive, excited and not go after one another using childish insults anymore. Way too many folks are googling ETSU athletics and getting directed to THIS SITE and it is imperative that everything is about exciting times ahead, moving forward but remembering where we've been.
I'll be honest, I don't want to forget anything about the last ten years, but as a fanbase the time is now to play nice.
And back on the A.D. stuff, truthfully speaking it's all opinion and hyperbole for a few months. Dr. Sander has been on the job officially one day. It won't be wholesale and it won't be a bloodletting, it'll be bits and pieces strategically chiseled away, just like the last year.
Oh and by the way, have I mentioned that Dave Mullins is NO LONGER THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT ETSU? (That sounds freaking great to say by the way, just let it roll off your tongue, try it. Go on. Seriously. It'll make you feel really good.)

(01-15-2013 03:27 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  I know where you're going, and we certainly have had a lot of candidates from the Tennessee athletic staff and likely will have some more.

But I, for one, hope that all of the candidates from Tennessee are ELIMINATED on sight!!

Why not? It's not as if the athletic program has done anything these past few years.

Let's just say that ETSU hired Derek Dooley. Do you realize what that message would be? It would be that ETSU was always and will always be nothing but UT's subservient.

Personally, I desire my furnishings to be something other than what I would find at a Knoxville garage sale.

wut about this dude,,,,,,,,,,



Bob Field is a senior associate athletic director and has served as a member of UCLA's athletic administration since January of 2001.

Field oversees men's and women's golf and serves as an aide to Dan Guerrero in all football matters. He was instrumental in the coaching search that resulted in the selection of Jim Mora. Field also oversees housing, parking, training table, video services, and coaches' development.

Prior to his switch to administration, Field spent 22 seasons as an assistant coach with the Bruin football team. He was the assistant head coach during his final five seasons (1996-2000) and served as defensive coordinator for 16 seasons (1982-95 and 1999-2000) while tutoring outside linebackers, place kickers and defensive backs at various times in his career.

Field has been at UCLA since 1978, with the exception of the 1980 season. Over the years, he tutored some of the top athletes in school history and crafted numerous defenses ranked in the Top 20 in various categories.

He began his coaching career under the legendary Bear Bryant at Alabama (1971-72) and moved to Mississippi State in 1973. During his five-year tenure at MSU, he coached the secondary and served as defensive coordinator in his final four seasons with the Bulldogs.

Field earned a Bachelor's degree in Science Education at Arkansas in 1971 and was named to the All-Southwest Conference Academic Team his senior year. He was a three-year varsity letterman and two-year starter in the secondary. In his three varsity seasons, the Razorbacks were 28-5.

As a player and coach, Field participated in 20 bowl games, including one Orange, two Sugar, three Cotton, two Fiesta and five Rose Bowls. During his tenure at UCLA, the Bruins recorded eight consecutive bowl wins, eight straight wins over USC and won or tied for seven Pac-10 championships.

Lover,

Kemp is ranked 5th on a list of replacement AD's. The supplemental material inside the parenthical brackets does not remove her from being on an AD list.

As per the playing nice bit I haven't begun to go after you. I allowed you personally to get away with a lot as a result of my refusal to discuss a certain event which neither you nor etsu are aware of the reason for my silence. Believe me I have shown great restraint during your childish attacks over the past two years while you engaged as an opportunist in a selfish effort to obtain a level of popularity that eludes you. I may or may not have more to say about this later but do not lecture me again on how I need to play nice.

Well said, Gold.

(01-15-2013 11:44 PM)One Of The Last Buc Linemen Wrote:  

(01-15-2013 03:27 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  I know where you're going, and we certainly have had a lot of candidates from the Tennessee athletic staff and likely will have some more.

But I, for one, hope that all of the candidates from Tennessee are ELIMINATED on sight!!

Why not? It's not as if the athletic program has done anything these past few years.

Let's just say that ETSU hired Derek Dooley. Do you realize what that message would be? It would be that ETSU was always and will always be nothing but UT's subservient.

Personally, I desire my furnishings to be something other than what I would find at a Knoxville garage sale.

wut about this dude,,,,,,,,,,



Bob Field is a senior associate athletic director and has served as a member of UCLA's athletic administration since January of 2001.

Field oversees men's and women's golf and serves as an aide to Dan Guerrero in all football matters. He was instrumental in the coaching search that resulted in the selection of Jim Mora. Field also oversees housing, parking, training table, video services, and coaches' development.

Prior to his switch to administration, Field spent 22 seasons as an assistant coach with the Bruin football team. He was the assistant head coach during his final five seasons (1996-2000) and served as defensive coordinator for 16 seasons (1982-95 and 1999-2000) while tutoring outside linebackers, place kickers and defensive backs at various times in his career.

Field has been at UCLA since 1978, with the exception of the 1980 season. Over the years, he tutored some of the top athletes in school history and crafted numerous defenses ranked in the Top 20 in various categories.

He began his coaching career under the legendary Bear Bryant at Alabama (1971-72) and moved to Mississippi State in 1973. During his five-year tenure at MSU, he coached the secondary and served as defensive coordinator in his final four seasons with the Bulldogs.

Field earned a Bachelor's degree in Science Education at Arkansas in 1971 and was named to the All-Southwest Conference Academic Team his senior year. He was a three-year varsity letterman and two-year starter in the secondary. In his three varsity seasons, the Razorbacks were 28-5.

As a player and coach, Field participated in 20 bowl games, including one Orange, two Sugar, three Cotton, two Fiesta and five Rose Bowls. During his tenure at UCLA, the Bruins recorded eight consecutive bowl wins, eight straight wins over USC and won or tied for seven Pac-10 championships.

I would be surprised to see someone with this kind of title and length of tenure at a BCS program even considering the job. One, a senior associate AD at UCLA most assuredly makes quite a bit more than an ESTU AD. Two, if he's been at UCLA for ten years, this isn't the first mid major gig he could have. He hasn't left, which probably indicates he won't, unless its for something really big. Most guys with that kind of title in a major athletic program are not going to drop to our level just to be the AD. Far more risk than career reward with that move. Look at Greg McGarity at Georgia. He was at Florida in a senior position for a very long time and what finally lured him away was a top 10-20 AD job in the country at his alma mater. Unfortunately a school like ETSU generally won't even make their radar.

(01-16-2013 07:35 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote:  

(01-15-2013 11:44 PM)One Of The Last Buc Linemen Wrote:  

(01-15-2013 03:27 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  I know where you're going, and we certainly have had a lot of candidates from the Tennessee athletic staff and likely will have some more.

But I, for one, hope that all of the candidates from Tennessee are ELIMINATED on sight!!

Why not? It's not as if the athletic program has done anything these past few years.

Let's just say that ETSU hired Derek Dooley. Do you realize what that message would be? It would be that ETSU was always and will always be nothing but UT's subservient.

Personally, I desire my furnishings to be something other than what I would find at a Knoxville garage sale.

wut about this dude,,,,,,,,,,



Bob Field is a senior associate athletic director and has served as a member of UCLA's athletic administration since January of 2001.

Field oversees men's and women's golf and serves as an aide to Dan Guerrero in all football matters. He was instrumental in the coaching search that resulted in the selection of Jim Mora. Field also oversees housing, parking, training table, video services, and coaches' development.

Prior to his switch to administration, Field spent 22 seasons as an assistant coach with the Bruin football team. He was the assistant head coach during his final five seasons (1996-2000) and served as defensive coordinator for 16 seasons (1982-95 and 1999-2000) while tutoring outside linebackers, place kickers and defensive backs at various times in his career.

Field has been at UCLA since 1978, with the exception of the 1980 season. Over the years, he tutored some of the top athletes in school history and crafted numerous defenses ranked in the Top 20 in various categories.

He began his coaching career under the legendary Bear Bryant at Alabama (1971-72) and moved to Mississippi State in 1973. During his five-year tenure at MSU, he coached the secondary and served as defensive coordinator in his final four seasons with the Bulldogs.

Field earned a Bachelor's degree in Science Education at Arkansas in 1971 and was named to the All-Southwest Conference Academic Team his senior year. He was a three-year varsity letterman and two-year starter in the secondary. In his three varsity seasons, the Razorbacks were 28-5.

As a player and coach, Field participated in 20 bowl games, including one Orange, two Sugar, three Cotton, two Fiesta and five Rose Bowls. During his tenure at UCLA, the Bruins recorded eight consecutive bowl wins, eight straight wins over USC and won or tied for seven Pac-10 championships.

I would be surprised to see someone with this kind of title and length of tenure at a BCS program even considering the job. One, a senior associate AD at UCLA most assuredly makes quite a bit more than an ESTU AD. Two, if he's been at UCLA for ten years, this isn't the first mid major gig he could have. He hasn't left, which probably indicates he won't, unless its for something really big. Most guys with that kind of title in a major athletic program are not going to drop to our level just to be the AD. Far more risk than career reward with that move. Look at Greg McGarity at Georgia. He was at Florida in a senior position for a very long time and what finally lured him away was a top 10-20 AD job in the country at his alma mater. Unfortunately a school like ETSU generally won't even make their radar.

I agree...while it is possible, its probably not likely

I suspect the new AD will be someone we have never heard of before.

On Carter, I just want to say that Momma, the incident I spoke of was something you tipped me off on and I did a story on it that I won an award for. Shannon was the one who told me about the "We Love Football" sign suggestion.

But it was 10 years ago. Things can change. One can be more mature now.

But the bottom line this list is all speculation and nothing but guesses. We don't have any idea who it is going to be, and right now they don't either.