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Holy $#^!

That is a really eye-catching stadium concept. With all these various stadiums being built around the country in the past decade or so, there is no shortage of design concepts for UAB to pick & choose to adapt when we get the chance to build our own. NOTE the emphasis on the higher value sideline seating.

They've won 30 games in last 10 years... UAB - 41, they average 15K+ for home games.

They need that stadium for when they move to the Big East.

With a move like that, they are aiming for the PAC-12. They see the ACC falling apart and the move to 16. The PAC doesn't have good expansion options in the same way... Unless UNLV suddenly becomes a national power. Then it provides another state market in a major city that is famous for travel and tourism.

Sure would be nice if Birmingham had the same kind of forethought.

(01-14-2013 06:09 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  With a move like that, they are aiming for the PAC-12. They see the ACC falling apart and the move to 16. The PAC doesn't have good expansion options in the same way... Unless UNLV suddenly becomes a national power. Then it provides another state market in a major city that is famous for travel and tourism.

Sure would be nice if Birmingham had the same kind of forethought.

If Birmingham had the local control of its destiny that no city in Alabama has under the Constitution of 1901, it might very well have been able to match some of the building components we see being built around the nation. It's not the lack of "forethought" but the lack of power to put it into action without either suburban/metro or state support. Look at the controversy around the Cooper Green Hospital - the city tried to help out and was told it was none of the city's business by the County Commissioners even though the hospital is in B'ham. The county wants to shut it down except for a "Doc in the Box" outpatient existence and there is not a single thing B'ham is legally able to do about it.

Forethought is worthless without the legal ability to act on the thoughts..

I like the Tulane concept better. But I can see a city like Vegas using it for much more than 7 Saturdays a year. I guess N.O. also has the Superdome, so Tulane can go small for their needs.

(01-14-2013 06:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  I like the Tulane concept better. But I can see a city like Vegas using it for much more than 7 Saturdays a year. I guess N.O. also has the Superdome, so Tulane can go small for their needs.

Exactly. People can't compare Birmingham and Vegas in terms of football. A stadium in Vegas is going to get used a lot more than one in Birmingham.

(01-14-2013 07:10 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 06:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  I like the Tulane concept better. But I can see a city like Vegas using it for much more than 7 Saturdays a year. I guess N.O. also has the Superdome, so Tulane can go small for their needs.

Exactly. People can't compare Birmingham and Vegas in terms of football. A stadium in Vegas is going to get used a lot more than one in Birmingham.

That is exactly the reasoning behind building the Multi Purpose Facility rather than just a football stadium in 1998 (when it could have been built for about $350 milliopn). The GA Dome is available for over 200 "events" EVERY year now and I doubt that more than a few of those are sports games related. By 2017 Atlanta says it plans to have a new retractable roof MPF in place (where do you suppose they might have gotten that idea?) and the GA Dome space will be its parking lot after it is torn down. B'ham will still be using Legion Field, the answer "RAPS" apparently had for the MPF proposed by "MAPS".

(01-14-2013 07:10 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 06:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  I like the Tulane concept better. But I can see a city like Vegas using it for much more than 7 Saturdays a year. I guess N.O. also has the Superdome, so Tulane can go small for their needs.

Exactly. People can't compare Birmingham and Vegas in terms of football. A stadium in Vegas is going to get used a lot more than one in Birmingham.

I wonder if Vegas is going to be a dreaded "multi-purpose stadium"

I like it. 800 million seems excessive but maybe not for Vegas. Hey, go big or go home.

I like it. Hell I want to build it!

(01-14-2013 06:35 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 06:09 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  With a move like that, they are aiming for the PAC-12. They see the ACC falling apart and the move to 16. The PAC doesn't have good expansion options in the same way... Unless UNLV suddenly becomes a national power. Then it provides another state market in a major city that is famous for travel and tourism.

Sure would be nice if Birmingham had the same kind of forethought.

If Birmingham had the local control of its destiny that no city in Alabama has under the Constitution of 1901, it might very well have been able to match some of the building components we see being built around the nation. It's not the lack of "forethought" but the lack of power to put it into action without either suburban/metro or state support. Look at the controversy around the Cooper Green Hospital - the city tried to help out and was told it was none of the city's business by the County Commissioners even though the hospital is in B'ham. The county wants to shut it down except for a "Doc in the Box" outpatient existence and there is not a single thing B'ham is legally able to do about it.

Forethought is worthless without the legal ability to act on the thoughts..

Bham could open their own mercy hospital, nothing stopping them. The county is responsible for Cooper Green and all the bills. If sometime down the road, for any reason, Bham stops helping out the hospital the county is left holding the bag.

(01-17-2013 01:01 PM)pbt140 Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 06:35 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 06:09 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  With a move like that, they are aiming for the PAC-12. They see the ACC falling apart and the move to 16. The PAC doesn't have good expansion options in the same way... Unless UNLV suddenly becomes a national power. Then it provides another state market in a major city that is famous for travel and tourism.

Sure would be nice if Birmingham had the same kind of forethought.

If Birmingham had the local control of its destiny that no city in Alabama has under the Constitution of 1901, it might very well have been able to match some of the building components we see being built around the nation. It's not the lack of "forethought" but the lack of power to put it into action without either suburban/metro or state support. Look at the controversy around the Cooper Green Hospital - the city tried to help out and was told it was none of the city's business by the County Commissioners even though the hospital is in B'ham. The county wants to shut it down except for a "Doc in the Box" outpatient existence and there is not a single thing B'ham is legally able to do about it.

Forethought is worthless without the legal ability to act on the thoughts..

Bham could open their own mercy hospital, nothing stopping them. The county is responsible for Cooper Green and all the bills. If sometime down the road, for any reason, Bham stops helping out the hospital the county is left holding the bag.

Actually, the STATE should be maintaining such hospitals in the 3 or 4 major cities across the state (every location we now maintain state medical school branch facilities) . We already acknowledge that about 3/5 of Alabama's population would qualify for Medicaid if it were maintained at the national average rather than at the lowest possible level as it now is (and the present administration wants to cut that level back even more as he fights the ACA). But we live in a minimum public service state that opposes spending its precious funds as much as is possible on its poorest citizens. The middle CLASS and above don't need these kinds of hospitals as their insurance usually pays for them to go to the like of Brookwood, Baptist whatever, St. Vincent's wherever, Trinity or some other private hospital in their area. The poor have no such choices as they usually have no insurance (until the ACA becomes effective in 2014).

Medical care for anyone is expensive and Alabama, because of past decisions to produce undereducated children as cheap labor for (usually out of state) employers, lacks the financial ability to do but the least for its people. As we saw in 2012, the only way the state could even minimally meet its General Fund Budget was to "borrow" from its Trust Fund with no provision for repayment. This in the same state that since 2008 has cut its public school per pupil funding by almost $1400 annually - more than ANY of the other 49 states and D.C. The state of Alabama may well be in a vicious circle death spiral as the "winds of neglect they have sown in the past, return as great whirlwinds of retribution in the future".

What affects the county (or what they screwed up) affects us in Birmingham, too. Don't believe me, check your water bill...

(01-17-2013 06:07 PM)Matrix Wrote:  What affects the county (or what they screwed up) affects us in Birmingham, too. Don't believe me, check your water bill...

Speaking of the Jeffco sewer problems, has it ever been determined how much of the sewer debt ORIGINATED with building sewer lines into Shelby county perhaps in response to bribes paid to commissioners by developers of Shelby County real estate companies or their investors? I know the infamous "Super Sewer" line under the Cahaba River was started to make such area service more efficient.

Out in Cropwell, we have septic tanks with field lines and New London water which generally runs $14 per month.

I can always know that every time I see that Bamanblazerfan has posted in a thread, the thread is no longer related to the thread title.

(01-17-2013 08:48 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I can always know that every time I see that Bamanblazerfan has posted in a thread, the thread is no longer related to the thread title.

I commented on the preceding post. Why you always pickin' on me? Besides, I had already commented on the new stadium in post #3