NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

When NIU had it's magical 2003 FB season application skyrocketed.
Last year when NIU made the Orange Bowl, applications soared and merchandise sales increased greatly.
A top 25 ranking increases NIU applications very significantly.
Whether or not a MAC Championship does is uncertain.

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

Good thing for us that basketball is the front door.

(01-18-2013 04:05 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

Good thing for us that basketball is the front door.

What kind of a paradox is this?
Besides being an invalid argument to promote critical thinking?

(01-18-2013 04:03 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

When NIU had it's magical 2003 FB season application skyrocketed.
Last year when NIU made the Orange Bowl, applications soared and merchandise sales increased greatly.
A top 25 ranking increases NIU applications very significantly.
Whether or not a MAC Championship does is uncertain.

Applications yes but NOT actual enrollment.

Unless we can see that higher qualified students are the ones applying in increased numbers then it means very little.

(01-18-2013 05:17 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 04:05 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

Good thing for us that basketball is the front door.

What kind of a paradox is this?
Besides being an invalid argument to promote critical thinking?

Happy Friday Dude!

damn, what a lively discussion.....it definitely shows one thing: a strong interest and passion for NIU athletics and the future of our program

I have to agree after attending a game last September, the restrooms and concession areas are cramped and seriously outdated. I hope that can be addressed sooner rather than later.
Having said that, I'll still make it up there for the game experience

(01-18-2013 07:49 PM)bigdhuskie Wrote:  damn, what a lively discussion.....it definitely shows one thing: a strong interest and passion for NIU athletics and the future of our program

I have to agree after attending a game last September, the restrooms and concession areas are cramped and seriously outdated. I hope that can be addressed sooner rather than later.
Having said that, I'll still make it up there for the game experience

Agree. This board has great NIU fans and others who bring lively discussion. To have a forum of free discussion is a wonderful way to
express support for NIU athletics and its improvement.

Certain schools use people managed scoreboards.
It is very cost effective. Fan experience comprises of a love for NIU FB, mass bonding of NIU fans and NIU winning.
Flashy scoreboards are a new and inefficient means of allocating scare athletic dollars. We cannot compete with other top 25 programs stadiums. Our goal is to allocate scare resources wisely in order to maximize our chances of winning games within the rules and have enjoyment in Spartan facilities.

Improved Concessions will bring in more revenue.
Improved washrooms will bring in more fans and help sell more food. According to McDonalds people buy less foods with messy washrooms.

Not ticketing cars during FB games, opening up more lots for fans with kids, organizing more group socials , reunions at FB games will increase attendance. REdoing up rooms in HS, putting high definition TV's in them
and making them handicap accessible will attract fans who are older and do not like the cold. Maybe if legal we could have many rooms rent them to companies, or people for parties during games and serve alcohol in these restricted areas. a Partial revamping of the WEst side and making them handicap accessible according to ADA guidelines must be a possibility. I find it hard to believe the West stands revamping are an all or nothing deal. There must be a way to provide wheel chair accessibility to part of the West stand and easy access parking for handicapped drivers.

Having a $3M scoreboard with bad washrooms, bad concessions and a west side in accessible to handicapped alumni is like a bad apple.
It looks great on the outside but when you bite into it you want to spit it out.

(01-18-2013 06:44 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 05:17 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 04:05 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-18-2013 03:56 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  NIU is more attractive to ftbll recruits when other sports have top notch facilities. The convo and other facilities help ftbll recruiting. No ftbll is not the front porch of the university. We are not Michigan, ND or Ohio St and Alabama. Very few if any kids are coming to NIU because of the 2-time MAC Champions!

Good thing for us that basketball is the front door.

What kind of a paradox is this?
Besides being an invalid argument to promote critical thinking?

Happy Friday Dude!

Hope you had a great weekend. You are not the only dogfan admirer on this board. He livens up discussions, sometimes tast-fully, other-times
not, but his heart is clearly devoted to NIU FB. We are blessed with many fans on this board who love NIU FB.

(01-21-2013 02:32 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Agree. This board has great NIU fans and others who bring lively discussion. To have a forum of free discussion is a wonderful way to
express support for NIU athletics and its improvement.

Certain schools use people managed scoreboards.
It is very cost effective. Fan experience comprises of a love for NIU FB, mass bonding of NIU fans and NIU winning.
Flashy scoreboards are a new and inefficient means of allocating scare athletic dollars. We cannot compete with other top 25 programs stadiums. Our goal is to allocate scare resources wisely in order to maximize our chances of winning games within the rules and have enjoyment in Spartan facilities.

Improved Concessions will bring in more revenue.
Improved washrooms will bring in more fans and help sell more food. According to McDonalds people buy less foods with messy washrooms.

Not ticketing cars during FB games, opening up more lots for fans with kids, organizing more group socials , reunions at FB games will increase attendance. REdoing up rooms in HS, putting high definition TV's in them
and making them handicap accessible will attract fans who are older and do not like the cold. Maybe if legal we could have many rooms rent them to companies, or people for parties during games and serve alcohol in these restricted areas. a Partial revamping of the WEst side and making them handicap accessible according to ADA guidelines must be a possibility. I find it hard to believe the West stands revamping are an all or nothing deal. There must be a way to provide wheel chair accessibility to part of the West stand and easy access parking for handicapped drivers.

Having a $3M scoreboard with bad washrooms, bad concessions and a west side in accessible to handicapped alumni is like a bad apple.
It looks great on the outside but when you bite into it you want to spit it out.

I don't think that most of the concession stand profits from the West side go to NIU athletics. To me its seems that they are being manned by volunteers who are working for money for their organization.

Improving the food access, like having vendors walk the aisles, would do more for food sales than improving the bathrooms.

I have NEVER seen a messy washroom at Huskie Stadium. Most are older and you have to walk too far to get to a big one but they are not messy.

What lot is not opened to fans with kids?

We do offer handicapped parking. This lot is just across the street from the East lot. There is a free shuttle from this lot to the West stadium.

I am fairly sure that the West stands will get refurbished some time after 2015.



I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:32 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Agree. This board has great NIU fans and others who bring lively discussion. To have a forum of free discussion is a wonderful way to
express support for NIU athletics and its improvement.

Certain schools use people managed scoreboards.
It is very cost effective. Fan experience comprises of a love for NIU FB, mass bonding of NIU fans and NIU winning.
Flashy scoreboards are a new and inefficient means of allocating scare athletic dollars. We cannot compete with other top 25 programs stadiums. Our goal is to allocate scare resources wisely in order to maximize our chances of winning games within the rules and have enjoyment in Spartan facilities.

Improved Concessions will bring in more revenue.
Improved washrooms will bring in more fans and help sell more food. According to McDonalds people buy less foods with messy washrooms.

Not ticketing cars during FB games, opening up more lots for fans with kids, organizing more group socials , reunions at FB games will increase attendance. REdoing up rooms in HS, putting high definition TV's in them
and making them handicap accessible will attract fans who are older and do not like the cold. Maybe if legal we could have many rooms rent them to companies, or people for parties during games and serve alcohol in these restricted areas. a Partial revamping of the WEst side and making them handicap accessible according to ADA guidelines must be a possibility. I find it hard to believe the West stands revamping are an all or nothing deal. There must be a way to provide wheel chair accessibility to part of the West stand and easy access parking for handicapped drivers.

Having a $3M scoreboard with bad washrooms, bad concessions and a west side in accessible to handicapped alumni is like a bad apple.
It looks great on the outside but when you bite into it you want to spit it out.

I don't think that most of the concession stand profits from the West side go to NIU athletics. To me its seems that they are being manned by volunteers who are working for money for their organization.

Improving the food access, like having vendors walk the aisles, would do more for food sales than improving the bathrooms.

I have NEVER seen a messy washroom at Huskie Stadium. Most are older and you have to walk too far to get to a big one but they are not messy.

What lot is not opened to fans with kids?

We do offer handicapped parking. This lot is just across the street from the East lot. There is a free shuttle from this lot to the West stadium.

I have had to use this once..at best, it is very inconvenient for anyone in a wheel chair.

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

(01-21-2013 03:34 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:32 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Agree. This board has great NIU fans and others who bring lively discussion. To have a forum of free discussion is a wonderful way to
express support for NIU athletics and its improvement.

Certain schools use people managed scoreboards.
It is very cost effective. Fan experience comprises of a love for NIU FB, mass bonding of NIU fans and NIU winning.
Flashy scoreboards are a new and inefficient means of allocating scare athletic dollars. We cannot compete with other top 25 programs stadiums. Our goal is to allocate scare resources wisely in order to maximize our chances of winning games within the rules and have enjoyment in Spartan facilities.

Improved Concessions will bring in more revenue.
Improved washrooms will bring in more fans and help sell more food. According to McDonalds people buy less foods with messy washrooms.

Not ticketing cars during FB games, opening up more lots for fans with kids, organizing more group socials , reunions at FB games will increase attendance. REdoing up rooms in HS, putting high definition TV's in them
and making them handicap accessible will attract fans who are older and do not like the cold. Maybe if legal we could have many rooms rent them to companies, or people for parties during games and serve alcohol in these restricted areas. a Partial revamping of the WEst side and making them handicap accessible according to ADA guidelines must be a possibility. I find it hard to believe the West stands revamping are an all or nothing deal. There must be a way to provide wheel chair accessibility to part of the West stand and easy access parking for handicapped drivers.

Having a $3M scoreboard with bad washrooms, bad concessions and a west side in accessible to handicapped alumni is like a bad apple.
It looks great on the outside but when you bite into it you want to spit it out.

I don't think that most of the concession stand profits from the West side go to NIU athletics. To me its seems that they are being manned by volunteers who are working for money for their organization.

Improving the food access, like having vendors walk the aisles, would do more for food sales than improving the bathrooms.

I have NEVER seen a messy washroom at Huskie Stadium. Most are older and you have to walk too far to get to a big one but they are not messy.

What lot is not opened to fans with kids?

We do offer handicapped parking. This lot is just across the street from the East lot. There is a free shuttle from this lot to the West stadium.

I have had to use this once..at best, it is very inconvenient for anyone in a wheel chair.

Any suggestions on how to improve the service to make it less inconvenient.

(01-21-2013 03:48 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

The actual scoreboard will NOT cost 3mil.

2 scoreboards and the system to run it will cost the 3mil. On top of that this cost may include an attendance improvement with the berm.

(01-21-2013 03:34 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  We do offer handicapped parking. This lot is just across the street from the East lot. There is a free shuttle from this lot to the West stadium.

I have had to use this once..at best, it is very inconvenient for anyone in a wheel chair.

Now that IS something NIU athletics SHOULD be focusing on improving.

(01-21-2013 03:56 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:34 PM)BobL Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  We do offer handicapped parking. This lot is just across the street from the East lot. There is a free shuttle from this lot to the West stadium.

I have had to use this once..at best, it is very inconvenient for anyone in a wheel chair.

Now that IS something NIU athletics SHOULD be focusing on improving.

Agree

(01-21-2013 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:48 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

The actual scoreboard will NOT cost 3mil.

2 scoreboards and the system to run it will cost the 3mil. On top of that this cost may include an attendance improvement with the berm.

For years fans have attended games without Multi million dollar electronic thrills. They still do at many schools. Problem is they cost tens if not hundreds of thousands a year to maintain. Only have a useful life of ten years. Worst of all the expectation for an even costlier replacement is expected.

WE are looking to increase fan attendance with minimum expenditure.
We have scarce resources and should be concerned with the wisest allocation of these resources with regard to increasing fan attendance.

(01-21-2013 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:48 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

The actual scoreboard will NOT cost 3mil.

2 scoreboards and the system to run it will cost the 3mil. On top of that this cost may include an attendance improvement with the berm.

A berm will not increase attendance in any significant way.

(01-21-2013 07:50 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:48 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

The actual scoreboard will NOT cost 3mil.

2 scoreboards and the system to run it will cost the 3mil. On top of that this cost may include an attendance improvement with the berm.

A berm will not increase attendance in any significant way.

Maybe, maybe not. But it will definitely improve the appearance of Huskie Stadium.

(01-21-2013 07:52 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 07:50 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 03:48 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(01-21-2013 02:54 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I find it funny that you want HDTVs everywhere you turn inside the stadium's guts yet you have a problem with an screen where you can see replays from your seat in HD.

Cost, Cost and Cost

Putting HDTV's up are relatively cheap.
THey can also be taken down in between games if necessary.
Scoreboards are a huge expenditure-in this case $3M.
Their upkeep is also very expensive.

The actual scoreboard will NOT cost 3mil.

2 scoreboards and the system to run it will cost the 3mil. On top of that this cost may include an attendance improvement with the berm.

A berm will not increase attendance in any significant way.

Maybe, maybe not. But it will definitely improve the appearance of Huskie Stadium.

How? 60 feet tall to block the apartments?

lol