(01-11-2013 09:13 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:56 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Thinking that a stockpile of guns is going to protect you from the government should it decide to trample you under foot is galactically stupid.

An old Russian tactical nuke might make a difference. I understand they're available on the black market...

Yea, and there's a reason none have detonated in the West. This is the scenario that makes both Politicians and Generals **** their pants at the thought.

Believe me if anyone takes possession of a Black Market Nuke, there will be about two dozen intelligence services out to stop them and secure the weapon-- and they don't care about some pansy ass definition of "torture" to get in the way.

Because if that thing goes off, things will be "bad all over" and not just in the Nation where Ground Zero is located.

That pretty much sums it up - if they know about it. If they don't, it really won't matter. Will it?

Saw a great line today.

One person is more responsible for the booming (pun intended) sales of AR-15s than anybody else in history.

Diane Feinstein.

(01-11-2013 08:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  When that happens, I'll be right there beside you.

I won't. That's when I'll be long gone, to answer the question that you seem so obsessed with asking.

As Bull points out, when that happens, it'll be too late. I plan to be gone before then.

I've been meaning to ask you Owl. Where exactly are you going to go...and what do you think will be the state of that location if America falls? It better not be too close to a dictator...or all your vaunted "possessions" may be gone in a heartbeat!

(01-11-2013 04:49 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:52 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 05:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Banning the future making and selling/purchasing of assualt weapons has nothing to do with the second amendment.

We all know they were only talking about muskets. Feel free to stock pile as many of them as you like. I take zero issue with that.

Bullsh*t. In the founding days of this nation, there was no weapon the government had that many private citizens didn't have, to include cannon, and ships essentially built for war. Anyone that thinks it has a damn thing to do with muskets is doing nothing but displaying a extreme ignorance, if not downright stupidity.

Thinking that a stockpile of guns is going to protect you from the government should it decide to trample you under foot is galactically stupid.

What's galactically stupid is thinking those jets, Bradleys, Abrams, etc., man themselves. What's galactically stupid is thinking the US military personnel, 70%+ conservative/libertarian, will violate the Posse Comitatus Act, turn its weapons on its own citizens, and seize firearms Americans are Constitutionally permitted to have by an inalienable right. What's galactically stupid is thinking civilian law enforcement will be able to quell a revolution by a pissed off American populace.

I guess you're just galactically stupid.

Now this is quite funny.

Rebel...don't know if you realized this...but you just made the case that all these yokels stockpiling weapons for fear of their government taking their guns and their livelihood are galactically stupid.

Thanks for finally coming around!

(01-12-2013 09:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 08:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  When that happens, I'll be right there beside you.

I won't. That's when I'll be long gone, to answer the question that you seem so obsessed with asking.
As Bull points out, when that happens, it'll be too late. I plan to be gone before then.

I've been meaning to ask you Owl. Where exactly are you going to go...and what do you think will be the state of that location if America falls? It better not be too close to a dictator...or all your vaunted "possessions" may be gone in a heartbeat!

Why, are you hoping I'll tell you so you'll know where to bail when the fit hits the sham?

This whole topic is none of your f-ing business.

(01-12-2013 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:49 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:52 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 05:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Banning the future making and selling/purchasing of assualt weapons has nothing to do with the second amendment.
We all know they were only talking about muskets. Feel free to stock pile as many of them as you like. I take zero issue with that.

Bullsh*t. In the founding days of this nation, there was no weapon the government had that many private citizens didn't have, to include cannon, and ships essentially built for war. Anyone that thinks it has a damn thing to do with muskets is doing nothing but displaying a extreme ignorance, if not downright stupidity.

Thinking that a stockpile of guns is going to protect you from the government should it decide to trample you under foot is galactically stupid.

What's galactically stupid is thinking those jets, Bradleys, Abrams, etc., man themselves. What's galactically stupid is thinking the US military personnel, 70%+ conservative/libertarian, will violate the Posse Comitatus Act, turn its weapons on its own citizens, and seize firearms Americans are Constitutionally permitted to have by an inalienable right. What's galactically stupid is thinking civilian law enforcement will be able to quell a revolution by a pissed off American populace.
I guess you're just galactically stupid.

Now this is quite funny.
Rebel...don't know if you realized this...but you just made the case that all these yokels stockpiling weapons for fear of their government taking their guns and their livelihood are galactically stupid.
Thanks for finally coming around!

No, he didn't. But you're too galactically stupid to understand.

(01-12-2013 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2013 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:49 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:52 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Bullsh*t. In the founding days of this nation, there was no weapon the government had that many private citizens didn't have, to include cannon, and ships essentially built for war. Anyone that thinks it has a damn thing to do with muskets is doing nothing but displaying a extreme ignorance, if not downright stupidity.

Thinking that a stockpile of guns is going to protect you from the government should it decide to trample you under foot is galactically stupid.

What's galactically stupid is thinking those jets, Bradleys, Abrams, etc., man themselves. What's galactically stupid is thinking the US military personnel, 70%+ conservative/libertarian, will violate the Posse Comitatus Act, turn its weapons on its own citizens, and seize firearms Americans are Constitutionally permitted to have by an inalienable right. What's galactically stupid is thinking civilian law enforcement will be able to quell a revolution by a pissed off American populace.
I guess you're just galactically stupid.

Now this is quite funny.
Rebel...don't know if you realized this...but you just made the case that all these yokels stockpiling weapons for fear of their government taking their guns and their livelihood are galactically stupid.
Thanks for finally coming around!

No, he didn't. But you're too galactically stupid to understand.

Yes...moron...he did. Read again junior.

(01-12-2013 09:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2013 09:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 08:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  When that happens, I'll be right there beside you.

I won't. That's when I'll be long gone, to answer the question that you seem so obsessed with asking.
As Bull points out, when that happens, it'll be too late. I plan to be gone before then.

I've been meaning to ask you Owl. Where exactly are you going to go...and what do you think will be the state of that location if America falls? It better not be too close to a dictator...or all your vaunted "possessions" may be gone in a heartbeat!

Why, are you hoping I'll tell you so you'll know where to bail when the fit hits the sham?

This whole topic is none of your f-ing business.

No...I don't care...I'm just telling you that if America implodes like you think that the world markets just might collapse and then it will be every man for himself...and you sir...will be the victim of some madman in your little utopian country with no more protection from America.

Enjoy your money while it lasts.

You seem to think that I really care...I don't...I just think it's hilarious...even though I know you're lying and you're never going anywhere.

But I'm know where I'm going...and all the money in the world can't be brought along with you anyway

(01-12-2013 10:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-12-2013 09:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2013 09:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 08:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  When that happens, I'll be right there beside you.

I won't. That's when I'll be long gone, to answer the question that you seem so obsessed with asking.
As Bull points out, when that happens, it'll be too late. I plan to be gone before then.

I've been meaning to ask you Owl. Where exactly are you going to go...and what do you think will be the state of that location if America falls? It better not be too close to a dictator...or all your vaunted "possessions" may be gone in a heartbeat!

Why, are you hoping I'll tell you so you'll know where to bail when the fit hits the sham?

This whole topic is none of your f-ing business.

No...I don't care...I'm just telling you that if America implodes like you think that the world markets just might collapse and then it will be every man for himself...and you sir...will be the victim of some madman in your little utopian country with no more protection from America.

Enjoy your money while it lasts.

You seem to think that I really care...I don't...I just think it's hilarious...even though I know you're lying and you're never going anywhere.

But I'm know where I'm going...and all the money in the world can't be brought along with you anyway

Yeah, it would be really sad if Owl ended up in a banana republic where the "dictator" can imprison or kill people without a trial, seize assets at the drop of a hat without ever charging anyone with a crime, grope and steal from people when they try to travel, or spy on citizens' communication endlessly without a warrant.

I have to laugh at how easily Obama has turned Blazer into a whack job drama queen.

Clearly the seizure of the assets and imprisonment or murder of every day Americans is out of control ever since Obama took office.

(01-12-2013 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I have to laugh at how easily Obama has turned Blazer into a whack job drama queen.

Clearly the seizure of the assets and imprisonment or murder of every day Americans is out of control ever since Obama took office.

Yes, wanting Constitutional limits on executive power = "whack job drama queen."

Even one due process free killing is too much for me. I'm not interested in counting the number of tick marks. Of course, you're already on the record as defending Obama's extrajudicial killing of an American kid, so there's really no reasoning with you.

Just imagine though...what if all these executive powers fell into the hands of a Republican? Gasp. Wouldn't that be terrible?

No dumb***...I'm on record of proving that you have ZERO evidence that kid was the target.

I'm also on record as not being in favor of the current drone program.

I'm also on record as being against The Patriot Act and warrentless wiretapping.

Once again, just because I defend Obama against your lies and distortions absent of facts in some cases, it should not be taken that I approve of everything he has done or will do. Until you get past your anger...there's really no point to continue to try and discuss things in a reasonable manner with you.

(01-12-2013 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No dumb***...I'm on record of proving that you have ZERO evidence that kid was the target.

I'm also on record as not being in favor of the current drone program.

I'm also on record as being against The Patriot Act and warrentless wiretapping.

Once again, just because I defend Obama against your lies and distortions absent of facts in some cases, it should not be taken that I approve of everything he has done or will do. Until you get past your anger...there's really no point to continue to try and discuss things in a reasonable manner with you.

Wow, I've posted on a number of different message boards (orioles, giants, several odu boards etc.) and this guy Tom is clearly the most delusional, uninformed liberal I've ever come across.

I already hold most libs in very low esteem, but at least some of them can string a coherent independent thought together.

All this guy (I'm just assuming) does is spout daily kos talking points ad nauseum and then when he gets smacked down, either runs off or resorts to the lowest common denominator. Even by liberal standards, he's a dim bulb.

(01-13-2013 07:08 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  All this guy (I'm just assuming) does I'd spout daily kos talking points as nauseum and then when he gets smacked down, either runs off or resorts to the lowest common denominator. Even by liberal standards, he's a dim bulb.