With Scott Shafer getting the Syracuse job Coach Novak now has two head coaches in his coaching tree with Shafer and PJ Fleck. Candidates for future head coaching jobs would include Pat Narduzzi, Dan Roushar, Matt Canada, Thomas Hammock, maybe Sam Pittman. Any others come to mind?

Narduzzi is the only one who is a real possible head coach at this point. Maybe Canada. The others don't come up.

Regardless, Novak clearly commanded a ton of respect as a "coach's coach" in the industry that made it possible for him to attract great assistants.

(01-08-2013 11:27 AM)DogTracks Wrote:  Narduzzi is the only one who is a real possible head coach at this point. Maybe Canada. The others don't come up.

Regardless, Novak clearly commanded a ton of respect as a "coach's coach" in the industry that made it possible for him to attract great assistants.

More impressive still is that the assistants were paid next to nothing in the Novak era. NIU did not pay coach Novak very well either. The man had the respect of his peers in the profession and he was always able to fill his staff with talented assitants even if they only stayed for a year or two.

Sabock was the exception with a lengthy tenure. I never liked the fact that HWSNBNed sent him packing.

(01-08-2013 03:39 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:27 AM)DogTracks Wrote:  Narduzzi is the only one who is a real possible head coach at this point. Maybe Canada. The others don't come up.

Regardless, Novak clearly commanded a ton of respect as a "coach's coach" in the industry that made it possible for him to attract great assistants.

More impressive still is that the assistants were paid next to nothing in the Novak era. NIU did not pay coach Novak very well either. The man had the respect of his peers in the profession and he was always able to fill his staff with talented assitants even if they only stayed for a year or two.

Sabock was the exception with a lengthy tenure. I never liked the fact that HWSNBNed sent him packing.

Sabock was offered a job under Kill, as Head of Football Operations. He wanted to stay in coaching and left. It's a myth that Kill sent him packing.

(01-08-2013 04:48 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 03:39 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:27 AM)DogTracks Wrote:  Narduzzi is the only one who is a real possible head coach at this point. Maybe Canada. The others don't come up.

Regardless, Novak clearly commanded a ton of respect as a "coach's coach" in the industry that made it possible for him to attract great assistants.

More impressive still is that the assistants were paid next to nothing in the Novak era. NIU did not pay coach Novak very well either. The man had the respect of his peers in the profession and he was always able to fill his staff with talented assitants even if they only stayed for a year or two.

Sabock was the exception with a lengthy tenure. I never liked the fact that HWSNBNed sent him packing.

Sabock was offered a job under Kill, as Head of Football Operations. He wanted to stay in coaching and left. It's a myth that Kill sent him packing and that isn't exactly true.

you are absolutely correct and it was at a very good salary. He just wanted to coach a little more. I talked to him in Fla and he basically plays golf 5 days a week.

Old thread, but I just updated the Novak Coaching tree with all the recent hires. It's a good list that now features two FBS head coaches:

http://www.redandblackattack.com/pages/t...ching-tree

Wish we had PJ Fleck.

(01-29-2013 03:08 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Wish we had PJ Fleck.

PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

(01-29-2013 03:08 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Wish we had PJ Fleck.

NIU tried to get fleck...he came..he left.

Had he stayed he would most likely be the NIU HC.

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

(01-29-2013 04:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

RECRUITING! He is out recruiting us by a lot in a very short time. As i said, I do not know his coaching skills, but his recruiting is tremendous so far.

(01-29-2013 04:53 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

RECRUITING! He is out recruiting us by a lot in a very short time. As i said, I do not know his coaching skills, but his recruiting is tremendous so far.

Recruiting means jack **** if you don't get the results on the field. See Ron Zook.

(01-29-2013 05:09 PM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:53 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

RECRUITING! He is out recruiting us by a lot in a very short time. As i said, I do not know his coaching skills, but his recruiting is tremendous so far.

Recruiting means jack **** if you don't get the results on the field. See Ron Zook.

+1

That is a superb example. Time will tell.

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:08 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Wish we had PJ Fleck.

PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:08 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Wish we had PJ Fleck.

PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

No...they're not very telling, it's a small small percentage of what determines a Head Coach's success.

Let us wait to see how good his recruits turn out... Plus his tenure at WMU will be a short one as he will move on to coaching at a BCS school. That is the way it is with hiring young coaches.

(01-29-2013 04:53 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

RECRUITING! He is out recruiting us by a lot in a very short time. As i said, I do not know his coaching skills, but his recruiting is tremendous so far.

Would you buy a used car from him?

(01-29-2013 04:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 04:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 03:54 PM)thetachihuskie Wrote:  PJ picked up a 3* OL lineman today that decomitted from CMU. That is his 6th 3* recruit in 3 weeks. He is really killin' it. We may have "zigged when we should have zagged!" I have a feeling we may have made a mistake. The recruiting results are very telling. We shall see on the coaching aspect.

I would never bet against PJ's success and if he was not coaching a team in the MAC West I would be rooting for his success.

So far, except for his college playing days at NIU, where has his success manifested itself?

Well, it started under being moved from jsut a G.A. at Ohio State to actually coaching the TE's there as a GA becasue of his ability to get a lot out of the players. Then it was at NIU where he took two solid (but not great) receiving talents in Simon and Davis, and got both of them on NFL rosters. Then it went to Rutgers where Sanu excelled under his leadership going form a little know receiver the year before Fleck arrived to one of the top receiver prospects in last years draft. Then His success was taking a group of receivers that saw Mike Williams have a career low year in 2011, and turned it into a 2012 that has him on the verge of being one of highest paid receivers in leage. NOt to mention Vincent Jackson had the best year of his All Pro Career under Fleck. (he was wiht Phillip River s before , but now has his best year under a shaky Freeman). He also put Underwood on the may who he helped develp at Rutgers.

Jim Tressel personally reccommended him for the Western Michigan Job ad did Schiano, and several others who I won't mention because you wouldn't believe me anyway.

He has surrounded him with an outstanding staff who will coach his players , and he will get great players to start with . Better than what we are getting today.

Just tired of people asking why? This guy has done everything in his power to put him in this spot including making an unpopular decision at the University he loves to get NFL experience, which undoubtedly landed him this job. HE has been successful in everything he has ever done in his entire life. WHy would this be any different? WHen has he ever failed?

You guys can sleep under a Rock all you want, but he is there to win and win now. H has always beeen a student of this game. More so than anyone I have ever seen.

If you are a prospect, you have one guy who has been a D3 asst coach , a D1aa asst coach, and a coordinator for 1 year at a D1. And you have one guy that has played at a high level in college, played in the NFL, coached in the MAC, Coached in 2 BCS conferences (BIG and Big East), has gotten over 6 players to NFL rosters, and coached a pro bowler to his best year ever. Where would a young man want to go?

Think about that my friends. Who is the guy more ready to be in this position?

Are you PJ's wife?