I won't go so far as NN, but I'd rather see a "central" team like Tulsa be replaced with another close by, and one with decent basketball so that leads me to WKU.

(01-07-2013 09:54 PM)Noodles Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 09:46 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 08:40 PM)eagleriffic Wrote:  With all the rumors its hard to keep up. Thought someone said Tulsa was offered a fb only spot & said no.

That is a totally unfounded rumor...They were never offered anything by the Big East. Now someone associated with the Big East could have possibly gauged their interest for a football only invite but their was never a vote to offer them membership. When ECU and Tulane were added there was a vote at that time that approved football only invites for ECU and BYU then all sports for Tulane. Obviously we all know that BYU said no...We will see what happens soon, when it is all said and done I hope we end up with both USM and Tulsa.

ECU fans are such experts. We are so fortunate to have them around to set us straight. What will we ever do when they leave us?

Thats why i don't listen to rumor I listen to ECU FANS.
When they said the catholic basketball schools were leaving, ECU Fans knew better than to listen to stupid rumors of sprots writers and bloggers.
When sports writers started rumors of Boise staying in the MWC, ECU fnas assured us it was all lies started by NBE "Haters". Boy am I glad that I listen to ECU Fans.
SO yeah, I believe Tulsa was never offered an invite before ECU or even after.

(01-08-2013 12:35 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:01 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Adding WKU would likely shove UAB to the West.
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
USM
La Tech
UAB
North Texas

Difficult decision. It would keep us with USM but would separate us from Charlotte, Marshall, ODU, & MTSU in football.

If Tulsa and Rice/USM go then I bet a gold nickel NMSU will be added.

NMSU being invited would be a *** **** joke.

I don't really have any interest in any potential schools except WKU (for basketball purposes), but pretty much any school out there is a better option than adding NMSU. Give me Texas State, Arkansas State, ULL, Delaware, UMass....anyone.

Considering that Charlotte has never played a down a football seems unfair to throw stones at programs who do. Let's see what Charlotte looks like after a few years of playing football before we judge other schools.

I'd rather have 0 football history than a history of pathetic failure, no support, a god awful location, terrible facilities, low endowment, etc.
NMSU has nothing attractive. Nothing.

Charlotte has never played a down and we've already surpassed them.

You leave us out of this....sorry, was channeling Rodney Dangerfield for a moment.

Hey, UAB is decently endowed.

(01-08-2013 12:58 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Hey, UAB is decently endowed.

(01-08-2013 12:57 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:35 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:01 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Adding WKU would likely shove UAB to the West.
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
USM
La Tech
UAB
North Texas

Difficult decision. It would keep us with USM but would separate us from Charlotte, Marshall, ODU, & MTSU in football.

If Tulsa and Rice/USM go then I bet a gold nickel NMSU will be added.

NMSU being invited would be a *** **** joke.

I don't really have any interest in any potential schools except WKU (for basketball purposes), but pretty much any school out there is a better option than adding NMSU. Give me Texas State, Arkansas State, ULL, Delaware, UMass....anyone.

Considering that Charlotte has never played a down a football seems unfair to throw stones at programs who do. Let's see what Charlotte looks like after a few years of playing football before we judge other schools.

I'd rather have 0 football history than a history of pathetic failure, no support, a god awful location, terrible facilities, low endowment, etc.
NMSU has nothing attractive. Nothing.

Charlotte has never played a down and we've already surpassed them.

You leave us out of this....sorry, was channeling Rodney Dangerfield for a moment.

eh you guys are getting screwed by a biased board. NMSU is where they are because they can't do any better.

There is no reason to add NMSU. There are plenty of east coast and central U.S. teams that would be far better adds.

If we lose Tulsa and UTEP, give me WKU and either ULL or Ark. State. Neither will rile up the Charlotte fanbase, but at least they're programs that are fairly good in at least one of the major sports.

(01-08-2013 01:21 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:57 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:35 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:01 PM)Niner National Wrote:  NMSU being invited would be a *** **** joke.

I don't really have any interest in any potential schools except WKU (for basketball purposes), but pretty much any school out there is a better option than adding NMSU. Give me Texas State, Arkansas State, ULL, Delaware, UMass....anyone.

Considering that Charlotte has never played a down a football seems unfair to throw stones at programs who do. Let's see what Charlotte looks like after a few years of playing football before we judge other schools.

I'd rather have 0 football history than a history of pathetic failure, no support, a god awful location, terrible facilities, low endowment, etc.
NMSU has nothing attractive. Nothing.

Charlotte has never played a down and we've already surpassed them.

You leave us out of this....sorry, was channeling Rodney Dangerfield for a moment.

eh you guys are getting screwed by a biased board. NMSU is where they are because they can't do any better.

There is no reason to add NMSU. There are plenty of east coast and central U.S. teams that would be far better adds.

If we lose Tulsa and UTEP, give me WKU and either ULL or Ark. State. Neither will rile up the Charlotte fanbase, but at least they're programs that are fairly good in at least one of the major sports.

Who would rile up the Charlotte fanbase. App St? JMU?

(01-08-2013 01:23 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 01:21 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:57 PM)rook360 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:35 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Considering that Charlotte has never played a down a football seems unfair to throw stones at programs who do. Let's see what Charlotte looks like after a few years of playing football before we judge other schools.

I'd rather have 0 football history than a history of pathetic failure, no support, a god awful location, terrible facilities, low endowment, etc.
NMSU has nothing attractive. Nothing.

Charlotte has never played a down and we've already surpassed them.

You leave us out of this....sorry, was channeling Rodney Dangerfield for a moment.

eh you guys are getting screwed by a biased board. NMSU is where they are because they can't do any better.

There is no reason to add NMSU. There are plenty of east coast and central U.S. teams that would be far better adds.

If we lose Tulsa and UTEP, give me WKU and either ULL or Ark. State. Neither will rile up the Charlotte fanbase, but at least they're programs that are fairly good in at least one of the major sports.

Who would rile up the Charlotte fanbase. App St? JMU?

Nobody really would honestly. That's why I'd rather see us go for quality over anything else.

App would probably be a big draw for football, but they're not very good at anything else.

I want teams with a fair amount of support and success in either basketball or football. Potential for growth needs to exist at any additions as well.

I like that Ark. State is one of only two FBS programs in their state. I like WKU's basketball history. Both have pretty nice facilities and a fair level of support.

I like ULL, but I don't like the fact that they're in a state with several other FBS programs in the heart of SEC country.

I hope we don't have to add anyone though. I hope UTEP and Tulsa stay because they are better quality programs than anyone that could be added IMO.

(01-08-2013 12:01 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Adding WKU would likely shove UAB to the West.
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
USM
La Tech
UAB
North Texas

Difficult decision. It would keep us with USM but would separate us from Charlotte, Marshall, ODU, & MTSU in football.

If Tulsa and Rice/USM go then I bet a gold nickel NMSU will be added.

NMSU being invited would be a *** **** joke.

I don't really have any interest in any potential schools except WKU (for basketball purposes), but pretty much any school out there is a better option than adding NMSU. Give me Texas State, Arkansas State, ULL, Delaware, UMass....anyone.

Absolute no to UMASS. They are getting less than 8K per game in football. Besides, its to far out of the current footprint. The farthest north we ever need to go would be Delaware.

My guess is that WKU or Arkansas State would get the call.

I would think if you have to replace just one team that WKU would be it.

Gives CUSA another whole state for markets
MTSU vs WKU is a HUGE rivalry (100 miles of hate)
Historically good Basketball program
Up and coming Football program.

stAte would be great as well, but I think as a partner for MTSU, WKU would get the nod.

(01-07-2013 10:21 PM)TitanTopper Wrote:  Hmmmm....

There you go.....begin reeling it in a bit. UTEP is likely a Mountain West target (opinion) and WKU bring the footprint a bit more easterly AND gives Marshall a much needed closer opponent. Not to mention they have tight basketball and football seems to be doing nicely at this time.

If Tulsa and UTEP are lost, CUSA and the Sun Belt should just merge and be done with it. They could divide into two, geographically tight divisions. Why put it off?

Some of our more sober thinking NCAA FBS level presidents from the Gang of Five I would think are actually going to think all this out and probably stumble upon the reasoning that some of CUSA's early departures who are "rah' rah'ing" for them to come on over for old times sake; anyway, some of those earliest departures who are doing the beckoning bit now may not be Big East keepers long term thus making some of CUSA's potential later departures wonder why in the hell did they leave in the first place and for a conference in 3 time zones to boot. Sometimes the best decison is no decision.

Bloom where planted...

NIU should have proven to all what can be done in any of these Gang of 5 conferences and just look who ended up in the AP's Final Top 25 Poll
at #22. Simply amazing...:)
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...title-game

GMG!

(01-08-2013 04:50 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  Bloom where planted...

Didn't North Texas recently switch conferences as well?

(01-08-2013 03:55 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  If Tulsa and UTEP are lost, CUSA and the Sun Belt should just merge and be done with it. They could divide into two, geographically tight divisions. Why put it off?

If Tulsa & UTEP leave, Britton Banowsky should just resign immediately.
How this guy has held on to this job is miraculous, & downright ridiculous.
Mike Slive would have made short work of the BE & the MWC.
Banowsky's a joke.

(01-08-2013 05:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 04:50 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  Bloom where planted...

Didn't North Texas recently switch conferences as well?

Yes we did. We left a conference with no Texas schools for one that has 3 other Texas schools, 2 schools adjacent to our state (La Tech) and Tulsa if they don't bail. I think they call that a true regional conference; sort of the kind of conference schools who don't get much TV revenue (Gang of 5) should all consider being in?

Just say no? UNT told Karl Benson and the WAC "no" 4 different times they invited us to join. First time if I remember the timeline correctly Boise State was even still a member. It's really easy to say no and I suggest to some schools out there who have the abilities to look beyond their noses and a few extra TV bucks to think about saying "no" too; that is, unless they have an unbelievable amount of frequent flyers miles to throw down the drain.

Hey, I know that all schools are going to do what they feel best for their schools, but they might really need make sure who they are aligning with won't dump their new conference affiliation (and subsequently them) in a short amount of time, too. Of course, all will say they are in to stay but we know in today's NCAA that may not always be true.

Bloom where planted...

GMG!

My guess: Western Kentucky, which from Marshall's standpoint would be both good and bad. Good...because they would be a natural rival to the Herd; and bad...because it would undoubtedly mean that either UAB or MTSU would move west, and I was looking forward to building rivalries with both. I already enjoy our UAB contest. You never know how that game is going to come out...from blowouts to upsets. Plus, I think UAB is going to improve dramatically in our new league over the next 5.

If two come in, presuming Tulsa and UTEP leave (which would be a sad day for CUSA IMHO): I'd say WKU for the East and Arkansas State or ULL for the west. I don't know too much about either and would rather hear from our West Division mates ...particularly USM and LaTech, on this subject. It affects them more than any team in the East Division. I do tend to agree with a big NO to NMSU. Let's take the opportunity to further tighten up our geographical footprint if UTEP and Tulsa leave.

(01-07-2013 10:35 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 09:35 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I pray we don't lose Tulsa, but if we did, I'd rather stick with 13. Even if we lost two programs, I'd prefer to stay at 12. All of the possible additions will still be there later.

I am waiting for Plumm's it's all SMU's fault. Yes we chose LaTech over you guys but that was due to them being conference mates nothing more.

Is ther really a place in TX called Bee Cave?

(01-08-2013 05:34 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 05:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 04:50 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  Bloom where planted...

Didn't North Texas recently switch conferences as well?

Yes we did. We left a conference with no Texas schools for one that has 3 other Texas schools, 2 schools adjacent to our state (La Tech) and Tulsa if they don't bail. I think they call that a true regional conference; sort of the kind of conference schools who don't get much TV revenue (Gang of 5) should all consider being in?

Just say no? UNT told Karl Benson and the WAC "no" 4 different times they invited us to join. First time if I remember the timeline correctly Boise State was even still a member. It's really easy to say no and I suggest to some schools out there who have the abilities to look beyond their noses and a few extra TV bucks to think about saying "no" too; that is, unless they have an unbelievable amount of frequent flyers miles to throw down the drain.

Hey, I know that all schools are going to do what they feel best for their schools, but they might really need make sure who they are aligning with won't dump their new conference affiliation (and subsequently them) in a short amount of time, too. Of course, all will say they are in to stay but we know in today's NCAA that may not always be true.

Bloom where planted...

GMG!

Makes sense to me, I just don't understand how some folks think 1,000 mile road trips are the way to go.

I really dont want to go to the big east and end up in a league with umass

Mwc is the easiest path to a bcs game even with a loss to ou or osu.

The east would be a cream puff division and you would face Boise most years.

Cusa west with la tech, rice, usm and Utep would be harder to run the table on than the front range mwc schools. The problem is there is no respectable team other than Marshall left in the east so the ccg won't mean anything.

I think Tulsa does whatever Houston and SMU do. Or we might get ignored again.