(01-07-2013 04:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's a lot of mis-information, bad assumptions, and pizz poor math in this entire thread.

Another item everyone is forgetting (as far as BB is concerned) are NCAA tournament credits. When you tally up the NCAA tournament credits from the members of the nBE, and those from the C7, you will see a huge disparity. There is no way the C7 generated anywhere near the tournament credits of the nBE. Most of the C7 were the bottom feeders of the old BE and rarely if ever made the tournament. The FB schools are the ones who consistently made the tournament, and made the deep runs to accumalate the credits.

If Memphis were to do something incredibly stupid and go to the C7, then we would be entitled to little of the tv contract money as compared to the crappy C7 teams, yet will feed those schools more money in tournament credits. F that.

First of all, I'm not advocating a move to the C7.

But when you compare the nBE with the C7, I don't think there is a huge disparity at this time. I'd say future tournament credits would probably favor the C7 if they add a few teams such as Xavier, Butler, etc.

Many of the big tourney credit winners are leaving or have left. Pitt, Syracuse, WV, Louisville and Notre Dame.

The additions to the nBE really don't add a thing for basketball except Memphis.

(01-07-2013 06:29 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  The additions to the nBE really don't add a thing for basketball except Memphis.

That's what I was thinking when a previous poster stated it would be like C-USA plus Temple if/when UConn and Cincy leave. As it stands right now, three of the top four basketball teams in C-USA aren't leaving -- at least, not for the nBE. Tulane (you remember, the one the C7 said was the last straw in dragging down BB) is the next highest RPI team, after Memphis, making the move.

(01-06-2013 09:16 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The $500M is for 12 years and is for 10 to 12 teams, not 7. The 7 plan to keep a bigger share, giving them about $5M a year, and the new invitees much less. Still want that deal? And we would have to put football in the Sunbelt or go indy. Dumb idea.

If they can get that much, it bodes well for what we can get.

id be fine with that bball league and putting football in sunbelt or going indy....,or shutting it down

Don't you have some litter to pick up at Jelly Stone Park.....

(01-07-2013 10:35 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:16 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The $500M is for 12 years and is for 10 to 12 teams, not 7. The 7 plan to keep a bigger share, giving them about $5M a year, and the new invitees much less. Still want that deal? And we would have to put football in the Sunbelt or go indy. Dumb idea.

If they can get that much, it bodes well for what we can get.

id be fine with that bball league and putting football in sunbelt or going indy....,or shutting it down

Don't you have some litter to pick up at Jelly Stone Park.....

Not old enough to make the connection.

(01-07-2013 10:36 PM)slktigers Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:16 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The $500M is for 12 years and is for 10 to 12 teams, not 7. The 7 plan to keep a bigger share, giving them about $5M a year, and the new invitees much less. Still want that deal? And we would have to put football in the Sunbelt or go indy. Dumb idea.

If they can get that much, it bodes well for what we can get.

id be fine with that bball league and putting football in sunbelt or going indy....,or shutting it down

Don't you have some litter to pick up at Jelly Stone Park.....

Not old enough to make the connection.

Just think Black Bears and you'll be fine.....

looks like that $500 million isn't too far off.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...rs-sources

This league could easily pay more than our all sports league. I've heard our contract is valued at about $40 million per year, and the C7 is about the same or more.

I've mentioned looking at strong basketball schools (non-football), but the masses here think it's "all about football". It's all about football for the top 5 conferences, the rest get very little. We've got a great core of basketball schools (Temple, Cinci, Memphis, and UCONN). Go add the best out there (Butler, Xavier, VCU, etc) before the C7 adds them.

If you can find one available all sports team that can remotely help basketball, please name them. I'd be all for it. Until then, be proactive and be the second best basketball conference out there. Add some value.

I'm never saying forget football. Instead, build it up! We are in the best possible place we can be now in regards to football. When Cinci and UCONN leave (and I think it's naive to say they won't in the near future), we are back in C-USA basketball. Look at all the threads that talk about "no bid" leagues; no quality wins; constant RPI watch, etc. Thats right where we'll be if/when UCONN and Cinci leave.

Anyone notice our outstanding recruiting class? I'll be the first to admit that Pastner has done an outstanding job recruiting in a conference that gets no TV time and usually sends one team to the tourney. But look at this class. This was our first Big East class. These guys all thought they would be playing big time ESPN games against Georgetown, Marquette, etc. Yes the conference is good still, but incredibly fragile.

$500 million!!!! Basketball worth more than the Big East all sports...

(01-10-2013 10:37 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This league could easily pay more than our all sports league. I've heard our contract is valued at about $40 million per year, and the C7 is about the same or more.

Don't believe everything you hear.

Quote:$500 million!!!! Basketball worth more than the Big East all sports...

Remains to be seen. I seriously doubt it. I predict that we will make over twice as much as C-7 schools.

(01-07-2013 04:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 12:28 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 11:25 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 10:15 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 09:42 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Where does UConn put it's football? You know they can't afford what the SunBelt or CUSA will do to it.

If they got $4.6 million from basketball they could go Indie with football or put it anywhere. They would make more money as C8 member than any current option. That is more money from TV than they make under the current BE contract.

Assume UConn goes indie in football or just 'puts it anywhere' (SunBelt / CUSA) they might as well give up football since it was the addition of football that they hoped would get them in a better situation (now the ACC or B1G). Second, there no huge advantage when the C7 are compared with the first seven in the NBE. Sorry but I see no advantages to UConn, only disadvantages.

$$$$$$$ it is all about $$$$$$.
If they are rewarded the same as the other original BE schools then that would be $4.3 million. MORE than they are getting under the old BE contract. Then if they place the rest of their programs in another conference they would share the football money from that conference. They could make around $5 mil a year in the deal. A great advantage since the nBE deal will be less than $2 mil per team for all sports.

I will bet your know nothing ass that is it more than $3 million per team. You are incredibly consistent when it comes to knowing nothing. It would be nice to see you reach for your wallet on this one.

He probably doesn't have the stones to put his money where his mouth is.

(01-10-2013 01:13 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(01-10-2013 10:37 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This league could easily pay more than our all sports league. I've heard our contract is valued at about $40 million per year, and the C7 is about the same or more.

Don't believe everything you hear.

Quote:$500 million!!!! Basketball worth more than the Big East all sports...

Remains to be seen. I seriously doubt it. I predict that we will make over twice as much as C-7 schools.

I'm just going off reports. Is it true? The report says that "Fox reaffirmed a $500 million rights fee". The alleged deal is worth over $40 million a year.

The last I heard is that our deal, minus Boise and the C7, is valued close to $40 million. Better than C-USA, but chump change against the Big 5.

Football pays for the top 5. We are somewhat similar to the MWC (with Boise) now. There just isn't a big market for our football teams.

IF this C7 deal goes through, it shows that top notch basketball has value. We've got a core as strong as the C7. There are no other real worthwhile additions that would add to our TV contract. I like Tulsa as an addition, but not because they add much, it's just insurance to protect the conference if/when Cinci and UCONN leave. They may find themselves in the MWC otherwise. However, Tulsa adds nothing to a TV contract and is just another team to split the money.

The Big East (the ones that are left) have a strength. It's basketball. Exploit it. Add basketball teams if we can find high quality. Call Butler, Xavier, etc, and see if we can add them before the C7.

(01-06-2013 10:25 PM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  I go to lots of Tiger games and I sit in a suite when I do. You can kiss it.

Closet Tigers fan?

Let's see... $500m over 12 years divided 12 ways...

$3,472,222.22/year/team

(01-11-2013 08:24 AM)Derby Wrote:  Let's see... $500m over 12 years divided 12 ways...

$3,472,222.22/year/team

I doubt it will be divided equally. I'd say the first 7 will take more than the other 5. They could add some really good teams for around $1 million.

Still it's a hell of a lot for basketball.