(01-04-2013 11:50 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  http://www.cougarinsurance.com/blog/wp-c...ntract.pdf

"3. The University agrees that it shall....
© accept, execute, become party to and abide by ...
(ii) all other governing agreements, to the extent allowed by law (including the mutual commitment agreement among the Conference's members, the substantive terms of which have been described to the University)...."

The "mutual commitment agreement" is the technical name of the Pre-Nup. So Houston knew. Which means that SMU and UCF knew--it defies belief that Houston would have been told, and expected to keep it secret from SMU and the other new members.

Not that anyone cares anymore, but I just found it.

EDIT: Also, Houston had to have been told about the Tulane/ECU membership vote. In section 6, it specifies that UH will receive notice of and will attend but not vote at, meetings about the TV contract, new members, and changes to the bylaws/constitution. The Conference will give "due regard" to Houston's views before voting--I have no idea what that means legally.

Bump bump bump. Read it fellas

OK.... so where's the part about the C7 keeping the Big East name?

(01-28-2013 02:03 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=611361

Quote:This one has become clear. Citing a “departure document” drawn up in 2005 by the Big East staff, the basketball group is able to “act in concert” and withdraw from the Big East without paying a withdrawal fee. The football schools and Notre Dame own the same flexibility. The catch is that the group is obligated to remain together for 27 months, although that can be negotiated down. The withdrawal means the schools left behind — Cincinnati, Connecticut, South Florida and a host of incoming members — become the Big East. Getting that name back from the football side will be negotiated.

Source

So assuming this document holds legal authority over the Big East by-laws...it looks like the Big East will remain the Big East as long as they want the name, which Aresco clearly stated that they do. Perhaps if the Boise St., SDSU, and a full western division had come to fruition than the remaining Big East schools would have negotiated a hefty fee to let the C7 take the name with them, but alas it did not.

(01-28-2013 02:12 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 02:03 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=611361

Quote:This one has become clear. Citing a “departure document” drawn up in 2005 by the Big East staff, the basketball group is able to “act in concert” and withdraw from the Big East without paying a withdrawal fee. The football schools and Notre Dame own the same flexibility. The catch is that the group is obligated to remain together for 27 months, although that can be negotiated down. The withdrawal means the schools left behind — Cincinnati, Connecticut, South Florida and a host of incoming members — become the Big East. Getting that name back from the football side will be negotiated.

Source

So assuming this document holds legal authority over the Big East by-laws...it looks like the Big East will remain the Big East as long as they want the name, which Aresco clearly stated that they do. Perhaps if the Boise St., SDSU, and a full western division had come to fruition than the remaining Big East schools would have negotiated a hefty fee to let the C7 take the name with them, but alas it did not.

But I proved the prenup existed. We don't know exactly what is in it though.

(01-28-2013 02:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 02:12 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(01-28-2013 02:03 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=611361

Quote:This one has become clear. Citing a “departure document” drawn up in 2005 by the Big East staff, the basketball group is able to “act in concert” and withdraw from the Big East without paying a withdrawal fee. The football schools and Notre Dame own the same flexibility. The catch is that the group is obligated to remain together for 27 months, although that can be negotiated down. The withdrawal means the schools left behind — Cincinnati, Connecticut, South Florida and a host of incoming members — become the Big East. Getting that name back from the football side will be negotiated.

Source

So assuming this document holds legal authority over the Big East by-laws...it looks like the Big East will remain the Big East as long as they want the name, which Aresco clearly stated that they do. Perhaps if the Boise St., SDSU, and a full western division had come to fruition than the remaining Big East schools would have negotiated a hefty fee to let the C7 take the name with them, but alas it did not.

But I proved the prenup existed. We don't know exactly what is in it though.

Clearly you suffer from selective reading comprehension...

Quote:The withdrawal means the schools left behind — Cincinnati, Connecticut, South Florida and a host of incoming members — become the Big East. Getting that name back from the football side will be negotiated.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/coll..._East.html

Is the link to the first confirmation that the pre-nup exists and is still in effect. Key quote:

Quote:The sub-agreement apparently called for the conference "to equitably distribute the [financial] assets," the source with knowledge of the sub-agreement said. Any distribution of assets is crucial, involving millions in NCAA basketball tournament revenue and exit fees from schools that already left.

I think the name is an asset, or we wouldn't be arguing about it.

From the Providence Journal piece:

Quote: Getting that name back from the football side will be negotiated.

What does that mean, exactly? Does the football side HAVE to negotiate? Maybe. Or is that a prediction by the PJ writer and/or his source? Maybe.

(01-04-2013 11:50 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  http://www.cougarinsurance.com/blog/wp-c...ntract.pdf

"3. The University agrees that it shall....
© accept, execute, become party to and abide by ...
(ii) all other governing agreements, to the extent allowed by law (including the mutual commitment agreement among the Conference's members, the substantive terms of which have been described to the University)...."

The "mutual commitment agreement" is the technical name of the Pre-Nup. So Houston knew. Which means that SMU and UCF knew--it defies belief that Houston would have been told, and expected to keep it secret from SMU and the other new members.

Not that anyone cares anymore, but I just found it.

EDIT: Also, Houston had to have been told about the Tulane/ECU membership vote. In section 6, it specifies that UH will receive notice of and will attend but not vote at, meetings about the TV contract, new members, and changes to the bylaws/constitution. The Conference will give "due regard" to Houston's views before voting--I have no idea what that means legally.

I know this is an old post but Houston wouldn't have had to tell SMU, UCF or Memphis anything. I'm pretty sure the Big East didn't let Houston in on the conference secrets while keeping the others out. The language about the MCA as well as the portion in Section 6 would most likely have appeared in all of their contracts. They all knew about it and ECU/Tulane vote. USF and UCF were actually playing active roles in getting ECU aboard.