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(10-30-2017 06:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 03:23 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 10:50 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  The Victory sour, the rep told me, was the same recipe as their Golden Monkey which I believe is a Belgian Tripel but different yeasts were added to make it "sour". He might have been full of it.

I think this is right. I'm a big fan of Sour Monkey. Probably my favorite sour.

Troegs is coming out with a "Mad Elf Grand Cru" in the next couple of weeks that I'm anxious to try. Belgian-style ale with Demerara sugar and tart Balaton cherries. I'm looking forward to it.

Not a huge fan of the Golden Monkey but really enjoyed the Sour Monkey. I was pouring so I wasn't allowed to "drink" but could "taste", I tasted my way to a decent buzz by the end of my shift.

Going to keep an eye out for that one; sounds delicious. Haven't had anything specifically with cherries since Adroit Theory's "All I See is Carrion".
10-31-2017 07:19 PM
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Today was a holy day for fans of Hardywood/Christmas beers/stouts: the debut of this year's Gingerbread Stout.

First impressions: Definitely more of a ginger bite than in years past. Not as sweet. It may also be a product of it being the first run and perhaps it'll mellow over the coming weeks. Bought a four-pack and will find them all a nice home (my belly) with a loving family (whatever I eat that day).

There's seven variants of GBS this season: bourbon barrel, rum barrel, apple brandy barrel (this was supposed to be used for the Trickery milk stout earlier in the year but they didn't have enough to do a good run), rye whisky barrel, double barrel (first rum, then bourbon), Christmas Morning (GBS + coffee) and Kentucky Christmas Morning (bourbon barrel). There was supposed to be a draft-only release of Christmas Pancakes (Christmas morning refermented with maple syrup) but that's been delayed.

I was one of 100 to win their lottery to purchase a complete set of the 2017 GBS, plus a goblet. Definitely looking forward to that, since driving back and forth to Richmond every week to pick up the latest variant isn't viable.
11-04-2017 11:27 PM
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A day later, I am still very jealous. I think I'm only going to be able to get my hands on 2-3 of that lineup. And you got a nice sampling glass as well. If you're good at getting it beer-clean after each use, you're in for a string of very interesting samplings.
11-06-2017 05:34 PM
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(11-06-2017 05:34 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  A day later, I am still very jealous. I think I'm only going to be able to get my hands on 2-3 of that lineup. And you got a nice sampling glass as well. If you're good at getting it beer-clean after each use, you're in for a string of very interesting samplings.

I'm looking forward to them all, of course, but I'm particularly interested in the double barrel GBS. I really liked this year's Black Butte XXIX, which was to the best of my knowledge my first encounter with double-barrel aging, as well as last year's rum GBS, plus most everything they do with bourbon is great, so expectations are sky high for that one.

The apple brandy GBS might be my sleeper pick based on the reviews from the last time they offered it, which brought to mind apple cinnamon rolls. That's in a very good spot for my palate.

The only one I'm not sure about is the rye GBS. Especially with this year's GBS having more bite than years past, I worry that it'll be a bit too much. But I'll definitely keep an open mind.

Oh, and while the GBS debut was the main attraction Saturday, I finally got a go at their rum barrel pumpkin farmhouse. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that they pulled me a regular pumpkin farmhouse, then floated a pour of dark rum. It was that intense. And it hung around for the duration. Good thing I like rum because if I was in it mostly for the pumpkin, I'd probably walk away a bit disappointed because it almost disappeared under the weight of the booziness.

I wonder if the Southern Tier rum Pumking was good? I saw it a couple of times and never pulled the trigger. I did get a four-pack of the cold-brew Pumking and was not impressed. Same issue with the Hardywood rum pumpkin — too much variant flavor, not enough pumpkin, and the coffee wasn't worth it. If you like strong coffee with a tinge of pumpkin, then this might have been OK to good for you, but despite liking both coffee and pumpkin, they didn't mesh well here for me.
11-06-2017 08:53 PM
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I've only had a handful of rum-aged beers, with the best being the semi-mainstream rum-barrel scottish ale that Innis & Gunn does. Not sure how well rum and pumpkin would mix, but I suppose if it wasn't over-the-top boozy (ie. somewhere in the range of 7.5-10% ABV) it could turn out well. It also depends on the kind of rum that the barrels housed (clear rum usually being lighter and sweeter, with brown/dark rum being heavy and complex). I always thought a brown ale or porter aged in Goslings Black Seal rum barrels would be quite tasty

**Edit: Also just had the bottle of Deschutes Black Butte XXIX that I had in the cellar since July. (50% aged in Bourbon and Rum barrels). I like the duality it has going between the sugary rum note and the deeper, more rounded sweetness of the bourbon note.
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11-07-2017 08:47 PM
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(11-07-2017 08:47 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  I've only had a handful of rum-aged beers, with the best being the semi-mainstream rum-barrel scottish ale that Innis & Gunn does. Not sure how well rum and pumpkin would mix, but I suppose if it wasn't over-the-top boozy (ie. somewhere in the range of 7.5-10% ABV) it could turn out well. It also depends on the kind of rum that the barrels housed (clear rum usually being lighter and sweeter, with brown/dark rum being heavy and complex). I always thought a brown ale or porter aged in Goslings Black Seal rum barrels would be quite tasty

I could see that. I'm surprised you don't see more big-name beer/liquor exclusive collaborations, or even bourbon and rum companies creating their own brews (they did this in reverse, but Lexington Brewing, makers of the always-good Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale, created Town Branch bourbon and started using that for their barrel aging — I think they used Wild Turkey before then?)

Quote:Also just had the bottle of Deschutes Black Butte XXIX that I had in the cellar since July. (50% aged in Bourbon and Rum barrels). I like the duality it has going between the sugary rum note and the deeper, more rounded sweetness of the bourbon note.

That what gives me such high hopes for the Double Barrel GBS. Do you know how they aged it? Was half the beer aged in rum barrels, half in bourbon and then combined, or was it everything in one barrel, then the other? Double Barrel GBS is, if I read right, started in a rum barrel, then moved to a bourbon barrel, so I don't know it that makes a big impact or if it's a distinction without a difference.
11-09-2017 05:02 PM
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I haven't been able to find anything conclusive, but I've heard "aged in bourbon and rum barrels" repeated so I would assume that the whole thing was moved from barrel to barrel instead of splitting and blending.
11-10-2017 06:47 PM
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A few interesting items I encountered today:

Long Trail Unearthed BA (BA American Stout)
- I remember the standard Unearthed being typical of the style, with that typical American hopping style evident in the deeper notes of the taste and a more pronounced lingering bitterness at the end of the finish. Might go for this one at some point

Jailbreak White Russian Cream Ale
- This sounds cool and that's, just, like, my opinion, man. I had COTU's El Duderino last year and I thought it was good, if lacking the bit of unrefined bite I like in stout. It was likely because of the lactose and vanilla, as those are two notes that I have found to be very forgiving in terms of what they can hide. I do like the idea of those coffee, vanilla, and cream notes with the consistency of a cream ale though.

Victory Storm King Imp Stout
- Storm King homer here. They changed the artwork and that automatically qualifies it for a re-review.
11-14-2017 10:20 PM
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