(12-27-2012 08:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 07:58 AM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 02:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm going to say it right now. UCF will have the best QB in the conference next year. And no I didn't forget about bridgewater or southwick.

Oh....so your QB is going to be a Heisman contender as well? Teddy B may very well be the best QB in the nation next year.

The Heisman has nothing to do with who is the best.

Let me throw in an objective opinion. Bridgewater is the real deal! I've watched UCF and your QB is not the talent that TB is. TB's got one of the most accurate arms I've seen, great pocket presence and a lot of zip. Oh, and some wheels to boot. TB won the BE for 'Ville almost entirely by himself. And, next year those young players are all coming back for 'Ville and TB will be even that much better with a much better supporting cast. 'Ville will be very dangerous next year. Unfortunately RU will be rebuilding on D next year, although we have more depth than we've ever had so we'll see what happens. We do return almost everyone on O, but we'll need a lot of improvement on O in order to contend since it was a relatively anemic O this year.

(12-27-2012 08:34 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 07:58 AM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 02:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm going to say it right now. UCF will have the best QB in the conference next year. And no I didn't forget about bridgewater or southwick.

Oh....so your QB is going to be a Heisman contender as well? Teddy B may very well be the best QB in the nation next year.

Thanks to Clint Butt Hurt's illegal recruiting antics? He is the dirtest coach of all time. It will be interesting what the NCAA has to say about him soon.

Can' t speak for Miami, But since Clint's been in Louisville He has been clean as a whistle and the Staff,Players and the Fans have nothing but respect for Him.

Next year will be fun, especially since about half of the teams in 2013 have never been a part of "divisional" races for Conf Championship Game spots.

Having divisional races makes soooo many more games have meaning (i.e. fans have more games to follow, need other teams to win or lose, especially in regards to divisional races and even for the #1 overall seed so that team can host the Championship Game).

(12-27-2012 09:10 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 08:34 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 07:58 AM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 02:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm going to say it right now. UCF will have the best QB in the conference next year. And no I didn't forget about bridgewater or southwick.

Oh....so your QB is going to be a Heisman contender as well? Teddy B may very well be the best QB in the nation next year.

Thanks to Clint Butt Hurt's illegal recruiting antics? He is the dirtest coach of all time. It will be interesting what the NCAA has to say about him soon.

Can' t speak for Miami, But since Clint's been in Louisville He has been clean as a whistle and the Staff,Players and the Fans have nothing but respect for Him.

I can't buy that he is all of a sudden clean. We was proven with verified documents to be involved with the ponzi scammer and recruits. The 1st year he gets to UL he gets recruiter of the year. It doesn't take much to put this together. Hurtt might have cut the cheating down now b/c eyes are watching him. It will be interesting what the NCAA does to him. They have yet to release their findings.

Nevin was involved with Bridgewater and Clint Hurtt. When Hurtt went to UL Bridgewater followed him. He should be ineligible for at least 1 season due to the benefits of Hurtt and Nevin.

Bridgewater isn't the only player on the UL roster to be involved with Hurt and Nevin either.

Glass houses. You should let it go.

Hurtt will likely be let go once the NCAA makes it's decision. For now, Strong is standing by his guy because he's done nothing wrong here.

Bridgewater is eligible at UofL. He would be ineligible at Miami. Simple as that. You may not like it. It may not be fair. That's how the ncaa works. Enjoy your probation.

(12-27-2012 10:03 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  Glass houses. You should let it go.

Hurtt will likely be let go once the NCAA makes it's decision. For now, Strong is standing by his guy because he's done nothing wrong here.

Bridgewater is eligible at UofL. He would be ineligible at Miami. Simple as that. You may not like it. It may not be fair. That's how the ncaa works. Enjoy your probation.

We are already on probation. The only item that we are appealing is the bowl. We need to take our punishment and move on. I'm not talking about UCF though.

As far as Hurtt goes he has no business coaching in the NCAA with his years of documented cheating that is really unprecedented in athletics. I think the NCAA will give him a no show which they should. It also shows that Strong is lacking ethics having a guy like Hurtt around.

It's not officially documented until the NCAA makes a decision. Only then will Strong act on Hurtt. He may be fired, he may not be allowed to recruit off campus, he may be barred from any contact with recruits. It's not Louisville's nor your decision in regards to what is fair punishment. What he did at Miami is inconsequential to his time at Louisville.

(12-27-2012 10:27 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  It's not officially documented until the NCAA makes a decision. Only then will Strong act on Hurtt. He may be fired, he may not be allowed to recruit off campus, he may be barred from any contact with recruits. It's not Louisville's nor your decision in regards to what is fair punishment. What he did at Miami is inconsequential to his time at Louisville.

It is officially documented. There are pics, signed checks, receipts, etc

(12-27-2012 09:09 AM)RMSko Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 08:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 07:58 AM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 02:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm going to say it right now. UCF will have the best QB in the conference next year. And no I didn't forget about bridgewater or southwick.

Oh....so your QB is going to be a Heisman contender as well? Teddy B may very well be the best QB in the nation next year.

The Heisman has nothing to do with who is the best.

Let me throw in an objective opinion. Bridgewater is the real deal! I've watched UCF and your QB is not the talent that TB is. TB's got one of the most accurate arms I've seen, great pocket presence and a lot of zip. Oh, and some wheels to boot. TB won the BE for 'Ville almost entirely by himself. And, next year those young players are all coming back for 'Ville and TB will be even that much better with a much better supporting cast. 'Ville will be very dangerous next year. Unfortunately RU will be rebuilding on D next year, although we have more depth than we've ever had so we'll see what happens. We do return almost everyone on O, but we'll need a lot of improvement on O in order to contend since it was a relatively anemic O this year.

Have to agree.

I thought we had established about 47 threads ago that Knighttime stays up at night with his obsession over Hurtt and UofL. Apparentely he felt the need to continue that obsession with 6 more posts here, but who am I to say what people be obsessed with!

(12-27-2012 12:08 PM)TigerLogic Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 09:09 AM)RMSko Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 08:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 07:58 AM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 02:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I'm going to say it right now. UCF will have the best QB in the conference next year. And no I didn't forget about bridgewater or southwick.

Oh....so your QB is going to be a Heisman contender as well? Teddy B may very well be the best QB in the nation next year.

The Heisman has nothing to do with who is the best.

Let me throw in an objective opinion. Bridgewater is the real deal! I've watched UCF and your QB is not the talent that TB is. TB's got one of the most accurate arms I've seen, great pocket presence and a lot of zip. Oh, and some wheels to boot. TB won the BE for 'Ville almost entirely by himself. And, next year those young players are all coming back for 'Ville and TB will be even that much better with a much better supporting cast. 'Ville will be very dangerous next year. Unfortunately RU will be rebuilding on D next year, although we have more depth than we've ever had so we'll see what happens. We do return almost everyone on O, but we'll need a lot of improvement on O in order to contend since it was a relatively anemic O this year.

Have to agree.

Several things I have an issue with.

First off, TB didn't win the BE for 'ville, in fact 'ville didn't just win the BE for 'ville. Louisville shares the title with half the conference. Call it what you want, but that is precisely not the definition of champion. Sure, they're going to the Sugar Bowl, but they share 25% of the Big East championship.

Second, what do you mean by pocket presence and "wheels to boot"? TB was sacked 3 more times than UCF (with UCF having already played 14 games to Louisvilles 12, meaning UCF has allowed 23 sacks at 1.64 sacks / game, and Louisville allowed 26 sacks at 2.166 sacks / game. If you allow the average in an additional 2 games, that's more than 30 sacks in a season). In addition, Bortles has 285 rushing yards this season to TB's meager 43.

TB has a higher completion percentage and passing yard number, I will grant him that. But he has the same number of passing TD's and interceptions as Blake (in less games, which is good for TD's and bad for INTs). But then again, Bortles also has 7 rushing TD's to TB's 1.

Given the progression Bortles has made from Freshman to Sophomore, that is my reasoning and confidence in saying that:

Bortles will be the best QB in the conference next year. And he'll prove it in Louisville.

Glad to see some angst going for next year....will make it all the more fun!

Another interesting fact. In opponents that UCF shares with Louisville (USM, FIU) we have beat those teams a combined 71-51, to Louisvilles 49-38.

UCF has victories over 3 teams with winning records (as well as bowl eligible), losing to undefeated Ohio State, non-Bowl eligible Mizzou, and twice to CUSA champions Tulsa. Louisville has 3 wins over teams with winning records as well, with one loss to a non-bowl eligible team, UConn, with Florida yet to have their way with you.

I agree! What everyone needs to just keep remembering is they can't change realignment by the BIG, ACC, Big XII, etc. Whatever happens; happens . . . but this is BY FAR the best conference outside the Power 5 . . .

THE FUTURE BIG EAST:
UConn
Cincinnati
Temple
South Florida
Boise State
SDSU
Houston
SMU
UCF
Memphis
East Carolina
Tulane
Navy
* TBD

. . . nothing else is even close! . . . I can't wait to get this conference going . . .

(12-27-2012 02:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Given the progression Bortles has made from Freshman to Sophomore, that is my reasoning and confidence in saying that:

Bortles will be the best QB in the conference next year. And he'll prove it in Louisville.

I think a large improvment from Fr to Soph year is normal. Bridgewater had a massive improvement as well from 14TD/12INT to 25TD/7INT.

You aren't going to find many outside Orlando that agree with you, but I'm glad you have confidence in your QB. Somebody will need to fill that 2nd team all-conference QB spot next season with Nassib graduating!