LOL...MAD!

If I were a Southern Miss fan I would be upset at the trend of college sports and where it's going and worry about their place in it going forward. However, USM would do exactly the same that ECU, UCF, and Houston if the opportunity presented itself. It's a shame that USM will likely suffer after setting a standard of excellence in their consecutive winning season streak that stands up with programs of far greater resources and stature. Still, get over the butt hurt and carry on.

(12-24-2012 03:14 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  That is the overall record in football USM has against the teams leaving for the Deceased East. Excuse me while I snicker......

What's your record this year????????????







wait.......














that's right.....................












0-fer...................

(12-31-2012 12:53 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  If I were a Southern Miss fan I would be upset at the trend of college sports and where it's going and worry about their place in it going forward. However, USM would do exactly the same that ECU, UCF, and Houston if the opportunity presented itself. It's a shame that USM will likely suffer after setting a standard of excellence in their consecutive winning season streak that stands up with programs of far greater resources and stature. Still, get over the butt hurt and carry on.

quit generalizing please. I have stated many many times that I wish ECU the best and hate to see our rivalry with them end, but I still feel like USM will be fine and ECU will be as well regardless. Frankly, I don't think EITHER school is going to move to the elite conferences and the new conference you are going in will have as tough a time as the other mid majors. I will tell you the hard cold truth of college football, and it is, if you don't have the rich alumni, if you don't have the more than 65,000 seat stadium, you have 2 or more of the top 4 conference like SEC, Big 10, Pac10, Big 12 you will be regulated to being a mid-major program. I have seen USM raise to the top 3 to 5 teams and the mid-major, be able to win against Ole Miss and Miss. State regularly, and challenge (even win) against Alabama, Auburn, LSU and the others, but NEVER did I see USM getting close to being a member of one the top conferences. ECU has the number 5 conference to deal with and that the ACC which is a conference that is the major level conference that will do fine. The Big East was doomed in football because it was the odd man out, and soon the big boys will expand again and the ACC will have to grab the few programs that the big boys will allow to join them. Most remaining programs in the Big East will find they aren't wanted in the majors and the BE isn't a major conference. USM and ECU will always be close but no cigar. Hard cold fact of life.

18 straight winning season, 10 consecutive bowl games, 5 conference championships

If we have to go 0-12 once every 19 years to get that, I'll gladly take it.

We all know who is better.

Yes, one winless season has established the new norm at Southern Miss. Never mind the coach that led us there is gone, we have altered our course for all eternity.

Just like the new norm at ECU is winning football championships, because they did it years ago so obviously that's what they do now every season.

It's logical really.

(12-31-2012 01:12 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  Yes, one winless season has established the new norm at Southern Miss. Never mind the coach that led us there is gone, we have altered our course for all eternity.

Just like the new norm at ECU is winning football championships, because they did it years ago so obviously that's what they do now every season.

It's logical really.

well I think the ECU fans trying to find fault with USM like this are the fans that are not the normal ECU fans. I have met and communicated with many ECU fans in my time and most are good fans with good football knowledge and a healthy respect for USM. I know most USM fans think well of ECU and respect them as well. These goofy fans however seem to at times think they represent the whole of the fans and they don't, but they will be like the drunk in the crowd who has no idea of how obnoxious and stupid they are, they just keep running off their mouths. It is the real ECU fans I pay attention to, not the idiotic ones.

(12-31-2012 01:00 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 03:14 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  That is the overall record in football USM has against the teams leaving for the Deceased East. Excuse me while I snicker......

What's your record this year????????????







wait.......














that's right.....................












0-fer...................

Now how many FBS winning teams has ECU beat the last two years??

6?







5?






4?






3?






2?






1?







0?






Surely in two years it has to be at least one.







Even USM has been ranked in the top 25 in the last two years.







Now when was ECU ranked in the top 25 at the end of they year?








This decade?







Surely the last decade?








And lest we foget the best part......

I guess if you look at the history in total you could easily come on the idea that USM is so likely to fall apart following the 2012 debacle. Let's do a history study real quick.
USM has won more than 550 games in it's history (many more than it has lost since it has lost less than 400)
USM has had only 9 losing seasons since 1935 (I think that would be just short of 80 seasons)
USM has had the longest string of winning seasons in it's history snapped in 2012 which was 18, the second longest was 17
USM has been to 20 bowls in Division 1 (10-10) and 4 in the college division (2-2) before that. Also 2 National Championships in the college division
USM has had 2 College Football Hall of Fame coaches in it's history.
and I could certainly find even more facts to add, but I think that is enough to show that USM will return to it's winning ways and it will be very soon. Anyone who thinks otherwise I would like to arrange a little bet with you because I have no doubt USM will return.

(12-31-2012 02:11 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  I guess if you look at the history in total you could easily come on the idea that USM is so likely to fall apart following the 2012 debacle. Let's do a history study real quick.
USM has won more than 550 games in it's history (many more than it has lost since it has lost less than 400)
USM has had only 9 losing seasons since 1935 (I think that would be just short of 80 seasons)
USM has had the longest string of winning seasons in it's history snapped in 2012 which was 18, the second longest was 17
USM has been to 20 bowls in Division 1 (10-10) and 4 in the college division (2-2) before that. Also 2 National Championships in the college division
USM has had 2 College Football Hall of Fame coaches in it's history.
and I could certainly find even more facts to add, but I think that is enough to show that USM will return to it's winning ways and it will be very soon. Anyone who thinks otherwise I would like to arrange a little bet with you because I have no doubt USM will return.

If I can add one more stat....

USM has not had back to back losing seasons since 1933-1934.

(12-31-2012 02:14 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:11 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  I guess if you look at the history in total you could easily come on the idea that USM is so likely to fall apart following the 2012 debacle. Let's do a history study real quick.
USM has won more than 550 games in it's history (many more than it has lost since it has lost less than 400)
USM has had only 9 losing seasons since 1935 (I think that would be just short of 80 seasons)
USM has had the longest string of winning seasons in it's history snapped in 2012 which was 18, the second longest was 17
USM has been to 20 bowls in Division 1 (10-10) and 4 in the college division (2-2) before that. Also 2 National Championships in the college division
USM has had 2 College Football Hall of Fame coaches in it's history.
and I could certainly find even more facts to add, but I think that is enough to show that USM will return to it's winning ways and it will be very soon. Anyone who thinks otherwise I would like to arrange a little bet with you because I have no doubt USM will return.

If I can add one more stat....

USM has not had back to back losing seasons since 1933-1934.

Wow that is unreal.

(12-31-2012 04:19 PM)knighthead1 Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:14 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:11 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  I guess if you look at the history in total you could easily come on the idea that USM is so likely to fall apart following the 2012 debacle. Let's do a history study real quick.
USM has won more than 550 games in it's history (many more than it has lost since it has lost less than 400)
USM has had only 9 losing seasons since 1935 (I think that would be just short of 80 seasons)
USM has had the longest string of winning seasons in it's history snapped in 2012 which was 18, the second longest was 17
USM has been to 20 bowls in Division 1 (10-10) and 4 in the college division (2-2) before that. Also 2 National Championships in the college division
USM has had 2 College Football Hall of Fame coaches in it's history.
and I could certainly find even more facts to add, but I think that is enough to show that USM will return to it's winning ways and it will be very soon. Anyone who thinks otherwise I would like to arrange a little bet with you because I have no doubt USM will return.

If I can add one more stat....

USM has not had back to back losing seasons since 1933-1934.

Wow that is unreal.

No kidding. Let Jonesing try and match that fact.

(12-24-2012 06:37 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 04:34 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 03:14 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  That is the overall record in football USM has against the teams leaving for the Deceased East. Excuse me while I snicker......

To bad you never capitalized on that success you once had. If you had built an actual fanbase representative of your consistent success you wouldn't now have to be trying to dig out of an 0-12 gutter with the worst resources in CUSA, and you'd have probably have punched your ticket a year ago. I hope the Big East or whatever the name of it is doesn't touch you at this point. You've already shown your ceiling is pretty low of what you can grow into even when you were winning every year. Really no excuse to not be able to draw 30k either as much success you you guys had, in a football state, with relative football weaklings like Miss and Miss State to boot.

well, I won't judge ECU by one fan because in the years that I have been aware of ECU/USM encounters I have found many great ECU fans and even had some thank USM for standing up for ECU when Louisville tried to keep the Pirates out of C-USA, but USM led the charge to include ECU. I am still proud that my alma mater took that stand and proud of ECU for it's relationship with USM. I would think we will see more of ECU on our schedule in the future and I am sure the fans will show the ECU class I have seen so often instead of this one who calls himself an ECU fan.

^This^
in spite of jonesy

So this next season is a chance to save one important USM tradition. No back to back losing seasons since 33-34 is a great achievement for the program. Now Monken can preserve that achievement.

(12-31-2012 05:34 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  So this next season is a chance to save one important USM tradition. No back to back losing seasons since 33-34 is a great achievement for the program. Now Monken can preserve that achievement.

I am wondering what would have been if we had taken Monken instead of Johnson. I think it would still have been no more than a 6 or 7 win season, but 2013 would be back to challenging for the conference lead and 8 or 9 wins. Maybe we will get the 8 or 9 wins in 2013, but I am more of the opinion it will be 6-6 to 7-5 due to the damage inflicted by Johnson and his old time philosophy.

(12-31-2012 05:40 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 05:34 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  So this next season is a chance to save one important USM tradition. No back to back losing seasons since 33-34 is a great achievement for the program. Now Monken can preserve that achievement.

I am wondering what would have been if we had taken Monken instead of Johnson. I think it would still have been no more than a 6 or 7 win season, but 2013 would be back to challenging for the conference lead and 8 or 9 wins. Maybe we will get the 8 or 9 wins in 2013, but I am more of the opinion it will be 6-6 to 7-5 due to the damage inflicted by Johnson and his old time philosophy.

My guess would have been 6-8 wins, but no way of knowing. Next year I would predict the same.

(12-31-2012 05:40 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 05:34 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  So this next season is a chance to save one important USM tradition. No back to back losing seasons since 33-34 is a great achievement for the program. Now Monken can preserve that achievement.

I am wondering what would have been if we had taken Monken instead of Johnson. I think it would still have been no more than a 6 or 7 win season,

I disagree.. with all the weapons that would have been at Monkin's disposal? I'm thinking a 9-10 win season was an easy get.

Next year we may be fighting to be a 6-7 win team.

Personally, I'll be glad when ECU and their obnoxious fan base is gone. They whined like babies to get Charlotte and ODU added, and then bolted at the first chance, screw them.

(01-01-2013 11:20 AM)LR Eagle Wrote:  Personally, I'll be glad when ECU and their obnoxious fan base is gone. They whined like babies to get Charlotte and ODU added, and then bolted at the first chance, screw them.

Yeah, you just showed us.

(12-30-2012 07:41 PM)Usm_13 Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 06:05 PM)TTT Wrote:  No way in hell Jackson st avg'a 23k a game, don't know where they got that number from. Maybe total amount of tix GIVEN AWAY...

Sep 03, 2011 (H) CONCORDIA (SELMA) W 42-2 4911
Sep 10, 2011 at Tennessee State W 35-29 43532
*Sep 17, 2011 at Southern U. W 28-24 21734
*Sep 24, 2011 (H) ALST L 14-21 16286
*Sep 29, 2011 (H) TEXAS SOUTHERN W 58-13 26000
*Oct 08, 2011 ARKANSAS PINE BLUFF (HC) W 48-10 38722
*Oct 15, 2011 at Mississippi Valley W 17-16 9420
*Oct 29, 2011 (H) Prairie View A&M W 44-14 17743
*Nov 05, 2011 (H) GRAMBLING ST. L 23-26 21576
*Nov 12, 2011 at Alabama A&M W 34-6 5831


Homecoming inflates the numbers a bit..otherwise its what we said..about 17k a game..again travel proximity further inflates the "home" attendance..the guy is an idiot..and thats not inflated at all..

As my buddy memphis fan pointed out:

Jackson State's "attendance" is propped up by the annual Heritage Classic at the Liberty Bowl which draws about 45K each year. Looking at the numbers that they use to claim that they are one of the top draws in FCS annually, they include that game in their attendance numbers.