As you all know, i have wanted out of the Big East since the real big east teams started leaving and the new wave started coming in.

That said, we're here and the best we can do is make the most of it.

With the additions of ECU and Tulane, we saw the Catholic schools bail, the western schools start looking elsewhere, and a drastic cut in our projected money.

Had those additions instead been Fresno & UNLV, or some other combination of western schools, i think its safe to assume SDSU and Boise wouldnt be looking elsewhere.

I'd like to have this thread to discuss how catestrophically bad the additions of ECU and Tulane were. Who made that call? Whos idea was this? Why did they not see this causing the backlash it did? Did Boise, SDSU, and the Catholics say anything before the invites went out? Why didnt USF, UC, and UConn listen? Many questions here.

Tulane - Yes

ECU for fb only - No

no....not coming to grips that college football is vastly bigger than college basketball quick enough is what doomed the BE

Should have been after UNLV/Fresno all sports. Then you could offer ECU All Sports and wait for the next defection before Tulane.

No, the Big East was doomed regardless of those invites. The invite of ECU was deserving, the invite of Tulane showed the true failure of BE leadership.

Tulane, in my opinion, hurt you badly. It drove off the basketball schools and it was a beacon to Boise that something was very wrong; the people running the show clearly didn't get it. They desperately needed to build a western division and instead were focusing on the east. And worse, they dumped two crappy football programs in the western division -- three if you count Temple, which was there for awhile, I believe. In my opinion, I think that is why Boise got more serious with their MWC talks.

If Boise wanted to play WAC level football programs, they would never have come to the MWC -- much less left it for the nBE.

Yoda out...

The additions of Tulane and ECU are the only thing that saved Conference America.

The Big East struck out on Western additions and quickly realized all they were going to have was:

Memphis
USF
UCF
Houston
SMU
Temple

This was what was going to be left when the C7 bolted, Boise/SDSU left and UConn/Cincy left.

The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.

In reality, East Carolina and Tulane probably will be the ones who saved Conference America not the ones that destroyed it. Without Tulane and East Carolina committed, you would have alot more schools scrambling to find a home right now!

Boise/SDSU will return to the MWC. Houston/SMU/Memphis are still likely to follow them.

Conference America may be able to add more CUSA scraps now that you have Tulane/ECU. Maybe bring in Southern Miss, Rice, Tulsa, etc.

Merry Christmas!

(12-24-2012 02:52 PM)RebelRobert Wrote:  The additions of Tulane and ECU are the only thing that saved Conference America.

The Big East struck out on Western additions and quickly realized all they were going to have was:

Memphis
USF
UCF
Houston
SMU
Temple

This was what was going to be left when the C7 bolted, Boise/SDSU left and UConn/Cincy left.

The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.

In reality, East Carolina and Tulane probably will be the ones who saved Conference America not the ones that destroyed it. Without Tulane and East Carolina committed, you would have alot more schools scrambling to find a home right now!

Boise/SDSU will return to the MWC. Houston/SMU/Memphis are still likely to follow them.

Conference America may be able to add more CUSA scraps now that you have Tulane/ECU. Maybe bring in Southern Miss, Rice, Tulsa, etc.
Merry Christmas!

gawd....this thing just keep getting better all the time. I hope not man...

(12-24-2012 02:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  no....not coming to grips that college football is vastly bigger than college basketball quick enough is what doomed the BE

Nail meet hammer...

Finally. The one thing this board lacked was a thread dedicated the proposition that Tulane ruined this conference.

Merry Christmas everyone.

(12-24-2012 02:52 PM)RebelRobert Wrote:  The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.

Really, it's about time some of you people remember what board you're on. A lot of posters have already had it with you guys.

Debate civilly or not at all.

Perhaps hastened it, but it was heading towards separation for some time. Since last dec to this dec really needed to strengthen the west, didn't, and so this is the end result.

(12-24-2012 03:18 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 02:52 PM)RebelRobert Wrote:  The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.

Really, it's about time some of you people remember what board you're on. A lot of posters have already had it with you guys.

Debate civilly or not at all.

That boise st thought they byu or nd
They counted potatoes as part of their viewership

IMHO I think ECU deserved an invite. I don't know much about Tulane, but I do think there is plenty of potential there. Will have to wait and see on that one. The big mistake made though was not going after true Western teams in the first place. Without a true (all sports) Western Division, and the oBE teams bailing, cause Boise to rethink its stance. THOUGH, I still think Boise to the nBE is the right move!!!

I have the utmost respect for Tulane as an academic institution, but I've been to a Tulane/UH game in New Orleans where UH fans outnumbered Tulane fans at least 10/1.

Inviting them to the BE made absolutely no sense.

(12-24-2012 02:43 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  As you all know, i have wanted out of the Big East since the real big east teams started leaving and the new wave started coming in.

That said, we're here and the best we can do is make the most of it.

With the additions of ECU and Tulane, we saw the Catholic schools bail, the western schools start looking elsewhere, and a drastic cut in our projected money.

Had those additions instead been Fresno & UNLV, or some other combination of western schools, i think its safe to assume SDSU and Boise wouldnt be looking elsewhere.

I'd like to have this thread to discuss how catestrophically bad the additions of ECU and Tulane were. Who made that call? Whos idea was this? Why did they not see this causing the backlash it did? Did Boise, SDSU, and the Catholics say anything before the invites went out? Why didnt USF, UC, and UConn listen? Many questions here.

Not at all. You stated in your first paragraph. You have been wanting to get out since the first teams were leaving. Just so you know. They wanted out as soon as USF was added. You are no Miami in their eyes. As the cycle churns.

(12-24-2012 03:23 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 03:18 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 02:52 PM)RebelRobert Wrote:  The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.

Really, it's about time some of you people remember what board you're on. A lot of posters have already had it with you guys.

Debate civilly or not at all.

That boise st thought they byu or nd
They counted potatoes as part of their viewership

Please use complete sentances. It's hard to understand your posts.

i do not accept the proposition that it is doomed.

Losing West Virginia, Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Louisville hurt the Big East. The League voted unaminously for both schools.

If any of the Big East schools really believe that the TV dollars would have been there before the defections then please share your Kool Aid.

Each school in the Big East wants out, even Tulane. To think that anyone is satisfied being out of the BCS is like saying that you like to come in second place. So, we are all bridesmaids and we may as well stick together to be successful and try and make as much money as we can and take that leap.

All this talk of Tulane and ECU breaking up the Big East is a bunch of Cr@@ and everyone knows it. If you don't believe this then look up the term scapegoat in the dictionary.

There are many great fans on this forum, but many play the blame game.

Merry Christmas and I will be pulling for Louisville against Florida from the dome.....

The basketball schools voted for Tulane. I'm not sure how the ruined anything.