Stephen Igoe
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
Just Tulane.
Maybe an argument could be made for ECU if it was an all-sports invite.
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firmbizzle
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
Yes! Tulane was the deathnell for the BE. It was over.
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12-24-2012 07:02 PM |
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SleepingGiantsFan
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
Congrats to RebelRob for getting on the plus side of the reputation ledger. It was monty's +3 that put Rob over the top - dripping with sarcasm though it may have been.
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12-24-2012 07:06 PM |
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SleepingGiantsFan
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 03:18 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote: (12-24-2012 02:52 PM)RebelRobert Wrote: The Big LEast has no choice but to try to build some sort of safety net. Bring in Tulane and ECU. Probably were hoping that might get Houston/SMU/Memphis to stick around and not bolt to the MWC with Boise/SDSU.
Really, it's about time some of you people remember what board you're on. A lot of posters have already had it with you guys.
Debate civilly or not at all.
Mea culpa for my part in the urinating contest. Please understand that RebelRob has a history of literally thousands of anti-SDSU posts on our board over the last decade which no Aztec who hasn't gotten banned from AztecMesa and the former Aztectalk will condone.
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12-24-2012 07:09 PM |
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Fo Shizzle
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 04:40 PM)Pelican Power Wrote: Can't we all get along?
I am afraid the awesomeness of Tulane has the rest of us jealous. It will take some time to get used to.
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12-24-2012 07:17 PM |
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Ring of Black
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 04:40 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote: (12-24-2012 04:34 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: I'm glad a program that will lead the entire league in FB attendance the day we get here is the reason this league is "doomed." It's nice to know that having fans that actually buy tickets is the worst thing possible.
You could argue that both ECU and Memphis were deserving of invites over USF. If this were 4-5 years ago I would have no issue with ECU being added, unfortunately I have lost complete interest in following this league.
It's interesting. If you felt that strongly, you would just leave the board and stop irritating new conference members. It is exactly what I did when we first left C-USA. Why do you post so much on here if you don't care?
I'm not wild about the new conference either, but I'm not going to post here, just to spite a new conference fan base that I don't like.
(This post was last modified: 12-24-2012 07:47 PM by Ring of Black.)
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12-24-2012 07:47 PM |
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BkGold
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
I don't think USF exactly excites the national college football crowd. If they don't make a big time conference there aren't many college football fans that will remember them.
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12-24-2012 09:20 PM |
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whitey
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 02:43 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote: As you all know, i have wanted out of the Big East since the real big east teams started leaving and the new wave started coming in.
That said, we're here and the best we can do is make the most of it.
With the additions of ECU and Tulane, we saw the Catholic schools bail, the western schools start looking elsewhere, and a drastic cut in our projected money.
Had those additions instead been Fresno & UNLV, or some other combination of western schools, i think its safe to assume SDSU and Boise wouldnt be looking elsewhere.
I'd like to have this thread to discuss how catestrophically bad the additions of ECU and Tulane were. Who made that call? Whos idea was this? Why did they not see this causing the backlash it did? Did Boise, SDSU, and the Catholics say anything before the invites went out? Why didnt USF, UC, and UConn listen? Many questions here.
OMG, what has USF done in the BE? NOTHING. The only reason you got in was so the BE could recruit Florida after they lost Miami. UCF or ECU should have gone ahead of you. You had a good coach that beat many ranked teams when he was with us & yet couldn't win squat at USF. You were the beginning of the many wrong steps the BE took. BE REAL & not a greater than thou. Your school is the one that doesn't belong in the BE, period.
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12-24-2012 09:43 PM |
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 09:43 PM)whitey Wrote: (12-24-2012 02:43 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote: As you all know, i have wanted out of the Big East since the real big east teams started leaving and the new wave started coming in.
That said, we're here and the best we can do is make the most of it.
With the additions of ECU and Tulane, we saw the Catholic schools bail, the western schools start looking elsewhere, and a drastic cut in our projected money.
Had those additions instead been Fresno & UNLV, or some other combination of western schools, i think its safe to assume SDSU and Boise wouldnt be looking elsewhere.
I'd like to have this thread to discuss how catestrophically bad the additions of ECU and Tulane were. Who made that call? Whos idea was this? Why did they not see this causing the backlash it did? Did Boise, SDSU, and the Catholics say anything before the invites went out? Why didnt USF, UC, and UConn listen? Many questions here.
OMG, what has USF done in the BE? NOTHING. The only reason you got in was so the BE could recruit Florida after they lost Miami. UCF or ECU should have gone ahead of you. You had a good coach that beat many ranked teams when he was with us & yet couldn't win squat at USF. You were the beginning of the many wrong steps the BE took. BE REAL & not a greater than thou. Your school is the one that doesn't belong in the BE, period.
The worst additions the BE has made were probably USF (no pedigree at all not deserving of any upgrade) and Temple (the first time around when they got kicked out). These two additions showed the conference brass was clueless. The football side of this conference was doomed when they let two guys with basketball backgrounds out of Providence run the league. Hopefully it's not too late with Aresco in charge now. The BE could've used him about 20 years ago. We are all here now and we must make the best of it. I think the league can still be pretty good (solid #6) if a contract can be secured.
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12-24-2012 09:56 PM |
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b0ndsj0ns
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
I'm not going to get into insulting USF. I want ECU to be in a league with UCF and USF. Those are probably the 2 most appealing teams in the league for me. However some USF fans are making it hard for me to have a shred of respect for your program.
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12-24-2012 10:03 PM |
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
I would not have invited them, but they're not going to "doom" the Big East. ECU will be competitive. Tulane has the potential to be competitive.
We'll see.
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12-24-2012 10:03 PM |
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
I'm guessing there are some longer term advantages to having Tulane athletics on board. The New Orleans market is far reaching in a very good recruiting area. I know it isn't what it used to be, and it is definitely LSU country, but how far is it to the next major market? A ways...
The potential is there, and like it or not, this league has to look for potential.
Selfishly, it is a GREAT road trip (I know, not that it matters...) I'll be there next weekend for the Saints/Panthers game.
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12-24-2012 10:25 PM |
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
You guys act like we acomplished nothing in the Big East. We didnt WIN the big east, and we didnt finish strong any season. Short of that we accomplished a lot.
We were in the top half of the attendance rankings every year of the big east since we arrived. As ECU fans surely you are impressed by that.
We have more big wins over big BCS teams than probably any other school in the league since we arrived.
We reached a BCS ranking of #2, higher than anyone else but WVU.
Were part of many highly TV rated games. Media darlings a couple of seasons.
Won 2 games in the NCAAT last year and made the NIT a few years ago. We werent brought on to be competitive in basketball, but were consistently better than Providence, DePaul and Rutgers during our stay, and had a couple of very strong years.
One of the better Soccer and Baseball teams.
Won a few championships in minor sports.
Don't act like we accomplished nothing just because we never made a BCS bowl. Rutgers never made a bcs bowl either and i doubt they care right now.
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12-24-2012 10:29 PM |
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whitey
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 10:25 PM)TigerLogic Wrote: I'm guessing there are some longer term advantages to having Tulane athletics on board. The New Orleans market is far reaching in a very good recruiting area. I know it isn't what it used to be, and it is definitely LSU country, but how far is it to the next major market? A ways...
The potential is there, and like it or not, this league has to look for potential.
Selfishly, it is a GREAT road trip (I know, not that it matters...) I'll be there next weekend for the Saints/Panthers game.
Just left New Orleans & I will be back. I still don't have a voice. Had more fun than any bowl I've been to.
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12-24-2012 10:41 PM |
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
this is a quote from BULLSBEAST!!!
"You guys act like we acomplished nothing in the Big East. We didnt WIN the big east, and we didnt finish strong any season. Short of that we accomplished a lot."
this sums up his credibility!!! he is a little high on his crystal meth this week.
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12-24-2012 10:49 PM |
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pablowow
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BULLSBEAST QUOTE!!
this is a quote from BULLSBEAST!!!
"You guys act like we acomplished nothing in the Big East. We didnt WIN the big east, and we didnt finish strong any season. Short of that we accomplished a lot."
(This post was last modified: 12-24-2012 10:56 PM by pablowow.)
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12-24-2012 10:50 PM |
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whitey
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RE: Did the additions of ECU & Tulane doom the Big East?
(12-24-2012 10:29 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote: You guys act like we acomplished nothing in the Big East. We didnt WIN the big east, and we didnt finish strong any season. Short of that we accomplished a lot.
We were in the top half of the attendance rankings every year of the big east since we arrived. As ECU fans surely you are impressed by that.
We have more big wins over big BCS teams than probably any other school in the league since we arrived.
We reached a BCS ranking of #2, higher than anyone else but WVU.
Were part of many highly TV rated games. Media darlings a couple of seasons.
Won 2 games in the NCAAT last year and made the NIT a few years ago. We werent brought on to be competitive in basketball, but were consistently better than Providence, DePaul and Rutgers during our stay, and had a couple of very strong years.
One of the better Soccer and Baseball teams.
Won a few championships in minor sports.
Don't act like we accomplished nothing just because we never made a BCS bowl. Rutgers never made a bcs bowl either and i doubt they care right now.
You don't think ECU can accomplish what you have & you had BcS $$$$, What are you going to do now. You never deserved a BcS invite, you got there because of location only. ECU has beaten more ranked schools than you ever have. By the way ECU was ranked AT THE END of the season 9th as an indy before you even had as FB team. We were the only team other than ND that had our on national TV contract with ESPN that the new BE commish put together. He knows what we have and trust me we will win a few Oly sports trophies too. When you were ranked #2 where did you end up. ONE MORE time BE REAL. geez
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12-24-2012 10:52 PM |
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TampaKnight
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RE: BULLSBEAST QUOTE!!
Accomplishment seems to suggest a tangible award or title given to the one achieving something.
So, essentially, USF didn't accomplish anything.
But may I point to their NCAA tournament wins last year.
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12-24-2012 11:07 PM |
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