The old staff were idiots married to a guy they recruited over a guy the old regime recruited. That is it.

The crappy Toledo game alone probably cost us a BCS bid.

(12-28-2012 11:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The old staff were idiots married to a guy they recruited over a guy the old regime recruited. That is it.

The crappy Toledo game alone probably cost us a BCS bid.

ooc loss to Toledo didn't cost us a BCS bid...losing to UofL and RU did.

but I hear ya

Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

(12-29-2012 11:17 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

All that has been said is tat CTT and BK have the same approach, and share the same philosophies.

I miss BK's offense. And I thought for sure Tony Pike would have a decent NFL career. I know he's battled some injuries but he was in a crappy situation in Carolina.

We were 5-0 with Munchie going into the Toledo game. The offense had scored 34, 23, 27, 52 and 49 points. Only an idiot would've benched him going into that game. It becomes debateable after the Toledo loss. But this conjecture that he went with munchie and was favoring his recruit over another is baseless. These coaches want to win and make a bcs game more than you or I even do. They'll play a guy who beat up their mother if it meant having the best chance to win. Was Kelly an idiot for ignoring Pike until forced to play him? Idiots don't win 10 games in back to back seasons. I ain't happy he left for UT but I get it and I won't rip the staff for what they accomplished here. To call them idiots or rip them after the season we just had is bush league stuff.

(12-30-2012 09:49 AM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:17 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

All that has been said is tat CTT and BK have the same approach, and share the same philosophies.

Based on what though? TT emphasized defense and control on offense and BK was quite the opposite.

(12-30-2012 10:10 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  We were 5-0 with Munchie going into the Toledo game. The offense had scored 34, 23, 27, 52 and 49 points. Only an idiot would've benched him going into that game. It becomes debateable after the Toledo loss. But this conjecture that he went with munchie and was favoring his recruit over another is baseless. These coaches want to win and make a bcs game more than you or I even do. They'll play a guy who beat up their mother if it meant having the best chance to win. Was Kelly an idiot for ignoring Pike until forced to play him? Idiots don't win 10 games in back to back seasons. I ain't happy he left for UT but I get it and I won't rip the staff for what they accomplished here. To call them idiots or rip them after the season we just had is bush league stuff.

Are we really going to rehash this?

Looking at only the points produced is ridiculous. Two of those games were against FCS teams and one was against Miami. Go back and count all the poorly thrown balls and the amount of drives Munchie killed because he couldn't complete a simple pass to an open target. Hell, go back through the game threads and reread all the complaints about Munchie.

Save the "only an idiot" crap

I thought I read somewhere (maybe on this site) that Gran was gonna spend some time with Noel Mazzone (was OC for TT at Auburn). So I would look to UCLA's offense to get a sense of what we may see next year.

(12-30-2012 10:27 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:49 AM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:17 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

All that has been said is tat CTT and BK have the same approach, and share the same philosophies.

Based on what though? TT emphasized defense and control on offense and BK was quite the opposite.

Don't know?...It's just what a coach told me

(12-30-2012 11:30 AM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 10:27 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 09:49 AM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 11:17 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

All that has been said is tat CTT and BK have the same approach, and share the same philosophies.

Based on what though? TT emphasized defense and control on offense and BK was quite the opposite.

Don't know?...It's just what a coach told me

Gotcha. I wonder why he thinks that. Would be interesting how it meshes with TT's defense.

(12-30-2012 10:41 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  I thought I read somewhere (maybe on this site) that Gran was gonna spend some time with Noel Mazzone (was OC for TT at Auburn). So I would look to UCLA's offense to get a sense of what we may see next year.

Cool didn't know Mazzone was an OC with Tuberville in his first years at Auburn.

Looks like at Auburn a decade ago Mazzone ran out of the 1-back, 2-TE Ace package and quite a bit out of the shotgun. At UCLA it looks like he's running it mostly out of the shotgun with some zone-read schemes similar to what Cincinnati has done the past few seasons.

(12-29-2012 11:17 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(12-29-2012 10:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Looking forward to the team going back to some of the vertical passing concepts that made them so great 2007-2009. I was watching some highlights on Youtube and got excited. God, were Mardy, Goody, Bones and co. something special..

Just curious, has it been revealed that Gran intends to bring a similar offense as Brian Kelly's to Cincinnati?

Thanks a lot for the memories! What a great game that was, I still remember going INSANE when the clock hit 0:00.

And are we ever going to wear red on black again? That's by far our best uniform combo... red on red looks ridiculous (in fact, get rid of the red pants all together).

(12-30-2012 10:35 AM)cpawfan Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 10:10 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  We were 5-0 with Munchie going into the Toledo game. The offense had scored 34, 23, 27, 52 and 49 points. Only an idiot would've benched him going into that game. It becomes debateable after the Toledo loss. But this conjecture that he went with munchie and was favoring his recruit over another is baseless. These coaches want to win and make a bcs game more than you or I even do. They'll play a guy who beat up their mother if it meant having the best chance to win. Was Kelly an idiot for ignoring Pike until forced to play him? Idiots don't win 10 games in back to back seasons. I ain't happy he left for UT but I get it and I won't rip the staff for what they accomplished here. To call them idiots or rip them after the season we just had is bush league stuff.

Are we really going to rehash this?

Looking at only the points produced is ridiculous. Two of those games were against FCS teams and one was against Miami. Go back and count all the poorly thrown balls and the amount of drives Munchie killed because he couldn't complete a simple pass to an open target. Hell, go back through the game threads and reread all the complaints about Munchie.

Save the "only an idiot" crap

THIS ^^^

I'll add one ^ as well. Good for a chuckle, though.

(12-30-2012 04:52 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Thanks a lot for the memories! What a great game that was, I still remember going INSANE when the clock hit 0:00.

And are we ever going to wear red on black again? That's by far our best uniform combo... red on red looks ridiculous (in fact, get rid of the red pants all together).

not a fan of red pants. the combo we worse against vt and uofl (black jersey red pants) looks like something from the mac conference.

(12-30-2012 05:44 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(12-30-2012 04:52 PM)pat5775 Wrote:  Thanks a lot for the memories! What a great game that was, I still remember going INSANE when the clock hit 0:00.

And are we ever going to wear red on black again? That's by far our best uniform combo... red on red looks ridiculous (in fact, get rid of the red pants all together).

No thanks