(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my hunch
1 Colorado St
2 New Mexico
3 Boise
4 BYU
5 San Diego St
6 UNLV
7 Air Force
8 Wyoming
9 Fresno

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then you get 1 more slot. Tulsa would have a shot, along with UTEP.

Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my hunch
1 Colorado St
2 New Mexico
3 Boise
4 BYU
5 San Diego St
6 UNLV
7 Air Force
8 Wyoming
9 Fresno

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then you get 1 more slot. Tulsa would have a shot, along with UTEP.

Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

Best scenario I have ever seen...

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my hunch
1 Colorado St
2 New Mexico
3 Boise
4 BYU
5 San Diego St
6 UNLV
7 Air Force
8 Wyoming
9 Fresno

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then you get 1 more slot. Tulsa would have a shot, along with UTEP.

Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

I doubt BYU will be joining any conference at this point and I do not see Houston and SMU going west. The bottom line is there is not going to be a conference outside of the "Big 5" that will get any kind of substantial TV revenue so you will see teams group together along previous conference affiliation lines.

Boise St and SDSU staying in the west with schools that they have already been associated with for years makes the most sense...I really do not think the Big East was that jazzed about a nationwide conference anyway...Clearly it was not a high priority for Aresco due to his inactions in trying to expand in the west and solidify Boise St and SDSU. I think it was always BYU or nothing for Aresco...The more I look back at the last few months the clearer this has become. If Aresco could have landed BYU then financially it probably would have made sense to try and build a nationwide conference with east and west divisions but if he could not get BYU there were no other schools or combination of schools available that would have made it financially viable.

We all know why Boise St was added to the Big East in the first place...It was done out of desperation to try and lock down the Big East's BCS AQ status...Once this was gone the value of Boise St was really non-existent for the Big East...SDSU was just a carrot for Boise St.

Now we will have the MWC keep Boise St and I would imagine that Boise St will not leave SDSU hanging and will probably make a taking SDSU back a condition of them coming back to the MWC.

I doubt Navy will join the Big East at this point so this puts the Big East with 11 members after Boise St and SDSU back out....They need to go out and add one additional team and make it a 12 team all sports conference.

(12-21-2012 06:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  They are regretting inviting USU and SJSU? That proposal is the MWC minus those two schools.

Ironically, both USU and SJSU had better seasons than anyone in that list above...

So if they trying to form a new conference they would not be the MWC. FYI, this chit has no chance of happening. The MWC name has clout and USU and SJSU does bring something to the table.

(12-21-2012 10:27 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my hunch
1 Colorado St
2 New Mexico
3 Boise
4 BYU
5 San Diego St
6 UNLV
7 Air Force
8 Wyoming
9 Fresno

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then you get 1 more slot. Tulsa would have a shot, along with UTEP.

Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

I doubt BYU will be joining any conference at this point and I do not see Houston and SMU going west. The bottom line is there is not going to be a conference outside of the "Big 5" that will get any kind of substantial TV revenue so you will see teams group together along previous conference affiliation lines.

Boise St and SDSU staying in the west with schools that they have already been associated with for years makes the most sense...I really do not think the Big East was that jazzed about a nationwide conference anyway...Clearly it was not a high priority for Aresco due to his inactions in trying to expand in the west and solidify Boise St and SDSU. I think it was always BYU or nothing for Aresco...The more I look back at the last few months the clearer this has become. If Aresco could have landed BYU then financially it probably would have made sense to try and build a nationwide conference with east and west divisions but if he could not get BYU there were no other schools or combination of schools available that would have made it financially viable.

We all know why Boise St was added to the Big East in the first place...It was done out of desperation to try and lock down the Big East's BCS AQ status...Once this was gone the value of Boise St was really non-existent for the Big East...SDSU was just a carrot for Boise St.

Now we will have the MWC keep Boise St and I would imagine that Boise St will not leave SDSU hanging and will probably make a taking SDSU back a condition of them coming back to the MWC.

I doubt Navy will join the Big East at this point so this puts the Big East with 11 members after Boise St and SDSU back out....They need to go out and add one additional team and make it a 12 team all sports conference.

Houston and SMU would be interesting. Would they want to go to a conference with 4 former conference mates, Temple, and USF? Or go out west to what looks a far superior conference? I wonder what relationship Houston/SMU have with Boise/SDSU.....

(12-21-2012 10:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:27 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my hunch
1 Colorado St
2 New Mexico
3 Boise
4 BYU
5 San Diego St
6 UNLV
7 Air Force
8 Wyoming
9 Fresno

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then you get 1 more slot. Tulsa would have a shot, along with UTEP.

Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

I doubt BYU will be joining any conference at this point and I do not see Houston and SMU going west. The bottom line is there is not going to be a conference outside of the "Big 5" that will get any kind of substantial TV revenue so you will see teams group together along previous conference affiliation lines.

Boise St and SDSU staying in the west with schools that they have already been associated with for years makes the most sense...I really do not think the Big East was that jazzed about a nationwide conference anyway...Clearly it was not a high priority for Aresco due to his inactions in trying to expand in the west and solidify Boise St and SDSU. I think it was always BYU or nothing for Aresco...The more I look back at the last few months the clearer this has become. If Aresco could have landed BYU then financially it probably would have made sense to try and build a nationwide conference with east and west divisions but if he could not get BYU there were no other schools or combination of schools available that would have made it financially viable.

We all know why Boise St was added to the Big East in the first place...It was done out of desperation to try and lock down the Big East's BCS AQ status...Once this was gone the value of Boise St was really non-existent for the Big East...SDSU was just a carrot for Boise St.

Now we will have the MWC keep Boise St and I would imagine that Boise St will not leave SDSU hanging and will probably make a taking SDSU back a condition of them coming back to the MWC.

I doubt Navy will join the Big East at this point so this puts the Big East with 11 members after Boise St and SDSU back out....They need to go out and add one additional team and make it a 12 team all sports conference.

Houston and SMU would be interesting. Would they want to go to a conference with 4 former conference mates, Temple, and USF? Or go out west to what looks a far superior conference? I wonder what relationship Houston/SMU have with Boise/SDSU.....

How about the fact that they are on the same side of the country....

(12-21-2012 10:53 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:27 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Looks like a good solid list...

If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

I doubt BYU will be joining any conference at this point and I do not see Houston and SMU going west. The bottom line is there is not going to be a conference outside of the "Big 5" that will get any kind of substantial TV revenue so you will see teams group together along previous conference affiliation lines.

Boise St and SDSU staying in the west with schools that they have already been associated with for years makes the most sense...I really do not think the Big East was that jazzed about a nationwide conference anyway...Clearly it was not a high priority for Aresco due to his inactions in trying to expand in the west and solidify Boise St and SDSU. I think it was always BYU or nothing for Aresco...The more I look back at the last few months the clearer this has become. If Aresco could have landed BYU then financially it probably would have made sense to try and build a nationwide conference with east and west divisions but if he could not get BYU there were no other schools or combination of schools available that would have made it financially viable.

We all know why Boise St was added to the Big East in the first place...It was done out of desperation to try and lock down the Big East's BCS AQ status...Once this was gone the value of Boise St was really non-existent for the Big East...SDSU was just a carrot for Boise St.

Now we will have the MWC keep Boise St and I would imagine that Boise St will not leave SDSU hanging and will probably make a taking SDSU back a condition of them coming back to the MWC.

I doubt Navy will join the Big East at this point so this puts the Big East with 11 members after Boise St and SDSU back out....They need to go out and add one additional team and make it a 12 team all sports conference.

Houston and SMU would be interesting. Would they want to go to a conference with 4 former conference mates, Temple, and USF? Or go out west to what looks a far superior conference? I wonder what relationship Houston/SMU have with Boise/SDSU.....

How about the fact that they are on the same side of the country....

The problem with going east is that the two current mainstays will be short timers. At most, UConn and Cinci will have a cup of coffee in the nBE before getting thier ACC invites. I also doubt Navy joins at this point. So you have CUSA 2.0, which will lose a team every time the ACC gets raided, becoming progressively weaker when compared to the MW. If there is no national conference, the BE loses most of its appeal for me.

(12-21-2012 06:46 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:42 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  They are regretting inviting USU and SJSU? That proposal is the MWC minus those two schools.

Ironically, both USU and SJSU had better seasons than anyone in that list above...

Don't forget Hawaii & Nevada.

By the way, who says the Boise/BYU/New Mexico/Colo St league has to be 12 teams?

If you added Houston, SMU, UNLV, SDSU and Air Force to it, you'd have a strong 9-team league in both football and basketball.

Invite us (Southern Miss). Even if we say no, I just want to be wanted by someone.

I'm sure we in the MAC would love to have SoMiss and LaTech. Then we'll grab UConn and Cincinnati for FB-only so they can play BB with the old BigEast Catholic schools until the ACC calls. A win-win-win (mostly the second one).

(12-21-2012 11:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:53 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 10:27 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

I doubt BYU will be joining any conference at this point and I do not see Houston and SMU going west. The bottom line is there is not going to be a conference outside of the "Big 5" that will get any kind of substantial TV revenue so you will see teams group together along previous conference affiliation lines.

Boise St and SDSU staying in the west with schools that they have already been associated with for years makes the most sense...I really do not think the Big East was that jazzed about a nationwide conference anyway...Clearly it was not a high priority for Aresco due to his inactions in trying to expand in the west and solidify Boise St and SDSU. I think it was always BYU or nothing for Aresco...The more I look back at the last few months the clearer this has become. If Aresco could have landed BYU then financially it probably would have made sense to try and build a nationwide conference with east and west divisions but if he could not get BYU there were no other schools or combination of schools available that would have made it financially viable.

We all know why Boise St was added to the Big East in the first place...It was done out of desperation to try and lock down the Big East's BCS AQ status...Once this was gone the value of Boise St was really non-existent for the Big East...SDSU was just a carrot for Boise St.

Now we will have the MWC keep Boise St and I would imagine that Boise St will not leave SDSU hanging and will probably make a taking SDSU back a condition of them coming back to the MWC.

I doubt Navy will join the Big East at this point so this puts the Big East with 11 members after Boise St and SDSU back out....They need to go out and add one additional team and make it a 12 team all sports conference.

Houston and SMU would be interesting. Would they want to go to a conference with 4 former conference mates, Temple, and USF? Or go out west to what looks a far superior conference? I wonder what relationship Houston/SMU have with Boise/SDSU.....

How about the fact that they are on the same side of the country....

The problem with going east is that the two current mainstays will be short timers. At most, UConn and Cinci will have a cup of coffee in the nBE before getting thier ACC invites. I also doubt Navy joins at this point. So you have CUSA 2.0, which will lose a team every time the ACC gets raided, becoming progressively weaker when compared to the MW. If there is no national conference, the BE loses most of its appeal for me.

I just started a new thread about comparing vulnerabilities between the two conferences. My point here exactly. Geography completely makes the MWC a better long term bet. I think the BE needs to just keep reloading as needed from east schools, til the big boys have taken all they want.

(12-21-2012 09:49 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  If they all stay in the MWC then it could end up as

Pod/Division 1
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Hawaii

Pod/Division 2
BYU
Utah State
Nevada
UNLV

Pod/Division 3
Colorado State
Air Force
Wyoming
Boise State

Pod/Division 4
Houston
SMU
UTEP
New Mexico

Pretty nice too.

Looks good to me too.