(12-21-2012 06:17 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Sensing a lot of bridesmaids on this board. Get over it, the conference is/was never going to work.

Tired of being a bridesmaid. Not over it. Freakin' cursed like the Cubs. I'll need a few days...

(12-21-2012 06:03 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  Thamel and Dodd are feeding this story . . . irresponsible journalism . . . gotta say Twitter has been the worst thing that happens to sports journalism . . . these guys think their Hollywood stars . . . what ever happened to get at least two sources? Now it's, who can be the first to tweet it; and forget about whether you get it right . . . just move on to the next story, rumor, tweet, etc. . .

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs
"New Mexico, Colorado St. showing prelim interest in coaxing BYU, Boise State to form new league." http://cbsprt.co/TcJudz

Full disclosure: who profits from this: CBSSports - keep Boise State, get BYU, keep the MWC from becoming a worthless conference if it loses Boise State, SDSU, Fresno State, and UNLV. . . of course, I don't see that spelled out anywhere in the story . . .

actually the opposite. CBS would be killed by them creating a new conference.

Kind of curious- the teams in this new league-
New Mexico
Colorado St
Boise
BYU
San Diego St
Fresno
UNLV
Air Force
Wyoming

WAC(err, MWC) would have left:
Nevada
Utah St
Hawaii(fb only)
San Jose St
Idaho
New Mexico State
would need to get 3 more all sports teams

Not having a contract is a good thing. Not having bowls is not a big deal, all bowl invites expire after next year and get redone. Only thing would be the auto bid. Looking, they can't get to 7 continuous members even. But, that conference should get a good bit of NCAA teams.

For the NBe, devastating. I'd guess probably UMass comes in along with Cincy, UConn, ECU, UCF, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Temple, and Memphis. Navy doesn't come, so need 1 more school to make 12....

Tulane and ECU probably make moves to get in for 2013 to be able to have CCG. Then would need 1 more for 2014 along with UMass.

(12-21-2012 06:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:03 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  Thamel and Dodd are feeding this story . . . irresponsible journalism . . . gotta say Twitter has been the worst thing that happens to sports journalism . . . these guys think their Hollywood stars . . . what ever happened to get at least two sources? Now it's, who can be the first to tweet it; and forget about whether you get it right . . . just move on to the next story, rumor, tweet, etc. . .

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs
"New Mexico, Colorado St. showing prelim interest in coaxing BYU, Boise State to form new league." http://cbsprt.co/TcJudz

Full disclosure: who profits from this: CBSSports - keep Boise State, get BYU, keep the MWC from becoming a worthless conference if it loses Boise State, SDSU, Fresno State, and UNLV. . . of course, I don't see that spelled out anywhere in the story . . .

actually the opposite. CBS would be killed by them creating a new conference.

Kind of curious- the teams in this new league-
New Mexico
Colorado St
Boise
BYU
San Diego St
Fresno
UNLV
Air Force
Wyoming

WAC(err, MWC) would have left:
Nevada
Utah St
Hawaii(fb only)
San Jose St
Idaho
New Mexico State
would need to get 3 more all sports teams

Not having a contract is a good thing. Not having bowls is not a big deal, all bowl invites expire after next year and get redone. Only thing would be the auto bid. Looking, they can't get to 7 continuous members even. But, that conference should get a good bit of NCAA teams.

For the NBe, devastating. I'd guess probably UMass comes in along with Cincy, UConn, ECU, UCF, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Temple, and Memphis. Navy doesn't come, so need 1 more school to make 12....

Tulane and ECU probably make moves to get in for 2013 to be able to have CCG. Then would need 1 more for 2014 along with UMass.

IF this is way we are going I am not sure if Wyoming would be there, although I know they have thing with CSU and Air Force. Personally, I could also do without CSU. Give me Houston and SMU instead, but I am still holding on to the nBE until its official.

(12-21-2012 06:30 PM)kellenmartin Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:03 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  Thamel and Dodd are feeding this story . . . irresponsible journalism . . . gotta say Twitter has been the worst thing that happens to sports journalism . . . these guys think their Hollywood stars . . . what ever happened to get at least two sources? Now it's, who can be the first to tweet it; and forget about whether you get it right . . . just move on to the next story, rumor, tweet, etc. . .

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs
"New Mexico, Colorado St. showing prelim interest in coaxing BYU, Boise State to form new league." http://cbsprt.co/TcJudz

Full disclosure: who profits from this: CBSSports - keep Boise State, get BYU, keep the MWC from becoming a worthless conference if it loses Boise State, SDSU, Fresno State, and UNLV. . . of course, I don't see that spelled out anywhere in the story . . .

actually the opposite. CBS would be killed by them creating a new conference.

Kind of curious- the teams in this new league-
New Mexico
Colorado St
Boise
BYU
San Diego St
Fresno
UNLV
Air Force
Wyoming

WAC(err, MWC) would have left:
Nevada
Utah St
Hawaii(fb only)
San Jose St
Idaho
New Mexico State
would need to get 3 more all sports teams

Not having a contract is a good thing. Not having bowls is not a big deal, all bowl invites expire after next year and get redone. Only thing would be the auto bid. Looking, they can't get to 7 continuous members even. But, that conference should get a good bit of NCAA teams.

For the NBe, devastating. I'd guess probably UMass comes in along with Cincy, UConn, ECU, UCF, USF, Tulane, Houston, SMU, Temple, and Memphis. Navy doesn't come, so need 1 more school to make 12....

Tulane and ECU probably make moves to get in for 2013 to be able to have CCG. Then would need 1 more for 2014 along with UMass.

IF this is way we are going I am not sure if Wyoming would be there, although I know they have thing with CSU and Air Force. Personally, I could also do without CSU. Give me Houston and SMU instead, but I am still holding on to the nBE until its official.

It'd be similar to the old MWC, but upgraded. Also better TV deal of course, most likely with ESPN...

If Houston and SMU come aboard, then 1 more slot, probably UTEP or Tulsa for #12.

(12-21-2012 06:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  . . . actually the opposite. CBS would be killed by them creating a new conference.

Killing them (the MWC) . . . yep . . .the only hope that CBSSports has to protect is only really valuable football property, the MWC, is to keep the core teams together by creating some new conference as described by Dodd . . . CBS Sports fingerprints are all over this . . . that is a fact.

(12-21-2012 06:37 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  . . . actually the opposite. CBS would be killed by them creating a new conference.

Killing them (the MWC) . . . yep . . .the only hope that CBSSports has to protect is only really valuable football property, the MWC, is to keep the core teams together by creating some new conference as described by Dodd . . . CBS Sports fingerprints are all over this . . . that is a fact.

But, if it's a new conference, they go out on open bid, which hurts CBS.

(12-21-2012 05:39 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:36 PM)MickMack Wrote:  Just wild speculation, but with rumors of BYU and the B12 talking, could this portend a B12 expansion?

Doubt it. BSU would be about 4th or 5th in line IMO for the B12 right now.

This. With the BCS going away, and the Boise tv market ranking outside the top 100, I can't imagine why the B12 would want Boise. Personally I'd still love to see Boise in a true nationwide conference like what the BE is trying to do. Unless the Pac comes calling, which is also very doubtful!!!

This is hilarious. NM and CSU have absolutely zero clout.

(12-21-2012 06:42 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:39 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:36 PM)MickMack Wrote:  Just wild speculation, but with rumors of BYU and the B12 talking, could this portend a B12 expansion?

Doubt it. BSU would be about 4th or 5th in line IMO for the B12 right now.

This. With the BCS going away, and the Boise tv market ranking outside the top 100, I can't imagine why the B12 would want Boise. Personally I'd still love to see Boise in a true nationwide conference like what the BE is trying to do. Unless the Pac comes calling, which is also very doubtful!!!

The other night, at the awards banquet, Kustra talked about the future of Boise St. and he mentioned the PAC 12 as the ultimate goal. He never mentioned the Big 12. FWIW.

(12-21-2012 06:44 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  This is hilarious. NM and CSU have absolutely zero clout.

Yep. I would not be suprised to see a new league with ESPN, BYU, and BSU at its heart, but I would be suprised if NM and CSU were on top of the list to join. Perhaps, NM for basketball.

(12-21-2012 06:48 PM)kellenmartin Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:42 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:39 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:36 PM)MickMack Wrote:  Just wild speculation, but with rumors of BYU and the B12 talking, could this portend a B12 expansion?

Doubt it. BSU would be about 4th or 5th in line IMO for the B12 right now.

This. With the BCS going away, and the Boise tv market ranking outside the top 100, I can't imagine why the B12 would want Boise. Personally I'd still love to see Boise in a true nationwide conference like what the BE is trying to do. Unless the Pac comes calling, which is also very doubtful!!!

The other night, at the awards banquet, Kustra talked about the future of Boise St. and he mentioned the PAC 12 as the ultimate goal. He never mentioned the Big 12. FWIW.

Kustra has never been shy about the fact that his ultimate goal is get Boise into the PAC. That is why all of the major moves by the Uni have been towards meeting the PAC requirements of post-graduate programs, research, academics, etc.

I wonder if this is in some way's ESPN's end game...
break up Big East

get CYO's for hoops
get new western all sports conference.

remember, back when they had the MWC, they aired quite a bit of their games. This would be similar.

Which ever conference ends up with Boise State, BYU & SDSU will have a great shot at being the 6th best conference. Man, that sounds bad... 6th best conference. It is what it is.

jibber jabber

Cincinnati anf UConn will find their ACC home as soon as the B1G makes its next move.

Boise, SDSU, Houston, SMU heading West.

No, UNLV, AFA, etc are NOT joining the No-name conference under any circumstance.

The no-name conference never gets off the ground with all the defections and no name.

UCF, ECU, Temple, Memphis need to fall back in line in an existing conference.

The Big East has gone the way of the WAC.

5 power conference and "Group of 4" for now.

4 power conference and 4 mid-major conferences by next BCS contract re-write.

Sun-Belt and CUSA have a lot to discuss and divide.
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I just posted this on the other thread, but it fits here also:

Brian Murphy‏@murphsturph
Before Boise State joined Big East, it commissioned a study on its options. Forming own league was No. 2 option behind joining Big East

Lots of overreaction and pouring of assumptions into concrete, as usual.

(12-21-2012 07:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Lots of overreaction and pouring of assumptions into concrete, as usual.

Agree, Pete Thamel could have asked anyone for an opinion on Boise State. If there was a story here he would have written one. He is new at Sports Illustrated having left the NY Times. These guys feel pressure to get there name in the game. Is there something here, maybe. I doubt it though.

(12-21-2012 06:17 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 06:15 PM)Yoda Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:44 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Like I have been saying all along, the all-sports conference idea never will work. Boise State has to do what is best for their school, which is probably go back to the MWC or seek other options. As usual, I turn out to be correct.

Actually, no, you're wrong. An all sport conference will work fine. The problem is that both the nBE and the MWC have too many weak sisters to put together a strong one.

What we really need is the 6-8 best eastern football schools and the top 6-8 football schools from the west. Without the weak sisters.
Yoda out...

Thought that was where this was going. There was a chance after RU and Ville took off.

Well, as a reminder, the original original plan was
West: Houston, SMU, Boise State, BYU, Air Force, Navy?
East: Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, Rutgers, USF, UCF

2 of those never got on board, and the NBE lost 2 more along the way. [/b]

Brian Murphy (@murphsturph)
12/21/12 7:59 PM
.@ESPNAndyKatz reports Boise State discussing staying in Mountain West: es.pn/WvNwNs


http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...g-big-east

The source said that current and scheduled 2013 Mountain West members New Mexico, Colorado State, UNLV, Air Force, Wyoming, Nevada, Fresno State and incoming Utah State and San Jose State -- and Hawaii in just football -- have pledged a commitment to the Mountain West. The hope is Boise State will reconsider and come back to the Mountain West.

Multiple sources said the Big East is having a hard time putting together a long-term television contract with the membership in flux for 2014 and beyond.

The remaining Mountain West members are attempting to convince Boise State that it would have more security staying put rather than going to a conference that could still lose two key members in Cincinnati and UConn if there is more movement by the Big Ten and ACC. Cincinnati and UConn were public about the desire to join the ACC, but Louisville was chosen over the two rivals.

At this point, both schools have to stay in the Big East, but sources at Cincinnati and UConn are under the impression -- even if it's not known to be true yet -- the Big Ten will raid the ACC for two more schools -- North Carolina and Georgia Tech.

Both Cincinnati and UConn sources have said they ultimately think they will be in the ACC and it's a case of not if but when.