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Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
From Ohio State's home rag: an Ohio Tournament would be a great idea. I like how they admit it is OSU who is keeping this from happening. [/b]


http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...great.html
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
I would play a tournament at Nationwide Arena in Columbus. Ohio State, Ohio, Cincinnati, and Dayton. Play ever school once over a three day period or make it a true tournament each season.

I would love to see UC go up to Columbus and play the Buckeyes.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
I think it would be better to play in a neutral NBA arena, such as Cleveland - a lot more capacity, a lot more money. We thumb our noses at the city, but it is really not a bad visit at all.

Ain't happening anyway...
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 01:04 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  I would play a tournament at Nationwide Arena in Columbus. Ohio State, Ohio, Cincinnati, and Dayton. Play ever school once over a three day period or make it a true tournament each season.

I would love to see UC go up to Columbus and play the Buckeyes.

If there would ever be an OH tournament it needs to move around the state from venue to venue. Always hosting it at Nationwide is giving tOSU defacto home games every year, which would obviously not be fair.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
That would be cool, but it's not something that UC needs to be successful. It might finally get us some following in Cleveland, which would be a plus. Right now they barely even know we exist up there.

But games against similar quality opponents as OSU (like Purdue, Florida State, or Arizona) would probably have just as much, if not more benefit for UC than a tournament like this.
 
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I've been saying it for a few years. We need to emulate the Notre Dame, Purdue, Indiana and Butler tournament that they play at the Pacers arena. The same could be done at the Cavs arena in Ohio.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 01:07 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(12-20-2012 01:04 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  I would play a tournament at Nationwide Arena in Columbus. Ohio State, Ohio, Cincinnati, and Dayton. Play ever school once over a three day period or make it a true tournament each season.

I would love to see UC go up to Columbus and play the Buckeyes.

If there would ever be an OH tournament it needs to move around the state from venue to venue. Always hosting it at Nationwide is giving tOSU defacto home games every year, which would obviously not be fair.

I agree, plus it gives every city involved a chance to share in the economic activity.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
One more thing: on the front page of the sports section in the Dispatch today was a piece recapping the Shootout and the Oiler editorial in the OP. I have attached the article in the Dispatcha bout the game. The photo covered the front page.


http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...s-out.html
 
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Unlike a lot of UC fans, I'm not an Ohio State hater. But it's just laughable that anyone could view UC basketball as a "little brother" program.

In fact, the programs' respective profiles over the last 50 and 25 years are very comparable, with UC and OSU having periods of dominance running for up to 15 years. Late 70's? UC. Eighties? OSU, even though they weren't great, we were mired in Badger/Yates. 90s thru early 2000s? UC by a mile. 2005-present? OSUs best period since the early 60s, artificially enhanced by the destruction and rebuilding of UC.
 
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(12-20-2012 03:12 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Unlike a lot of UC fans, I'm not an Ohio State hater. But it's just laughable that anyone could view UC basketball as a "little brother" program.

In fact, the programs' respective profiles over the last 50 and 25 years are very comparable, with UC and OSU having periods of dominance running for up to 15 years. Late 70's? UC. Eighties? OSU, even though they weren't great, we were mired in Badger/Yates. 90s thru early 2000s? UC by a mile. 2005-present? OSUs best period since the early 60s, artificially enhanced by the destruction and rebuilding of UC.

Spot on
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  From Ohio State's home rag: an Ohio Tournament would be a great idea. I like how they admit it is OSU who is keeping this from happening. [/b]


http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...great.html

This guy obviously hasn't been in Columbus very long. He keeps writing this kind of stuff and he'll soon be looking for a job. Can't upset the powers that be in the O$U athletic department.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 04:47 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  
(12-20-2012 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  From Ohio State's home rag: an Ohio Tournament would be a great idea. I like how they admit it is OSU who is keeping this from happening. [/b]


http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/...great.html

This guy obviously hasn't been in Columbus very long. He keeps writing this kind of stuff and he'll soon be looking for a job. Can't upset the powers that be in the O$U athletic department.

Agreed. Look for his press credentials to be revoked.
Also, had to laugh at his line "It is hard to say where athletic directors from Ohio State, Cincinnati, Xavier and Dayton stand on the establishment of such a tournament, because none of the four responded to an interview request." Uh, no, Rob. It's fairly easy to say where three of those ADs would stand on this question, and super-mega-uber-easy to know where the other one would stand.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
^^^ When the Tressell saga unfolded last year, OSU had Bruce Hooley, one of the afternoon guys on 97.1 The Fan, fired for being overly critical of the university (on a related note, Kirk Herbstreit had one of the guys who replaced him fired this year for tweeting he wished Desmond Howard was dead).

There's definite precedent.
 
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(12-20-2012 05:30 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^^ When the Tressell saga unfolded last year, OSU had Bruce Hooley, one of the afternoon guys on 97.1 The Fan, fired for being overly critical of the university (on a related note, Kirk Herbstreit had one of the guys who replaced him fired this year for tweeting he wished Desmond Howard was dead).

There's definite precedent.

Make no mistake...the Dispatch writers are kept on a short leash, all reporting must reflect pro-OSU and pro-Columbus at the expense of all others in the state. Seems to be a Wolfe family paranoia.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 05:30 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^^ When the Tressell saga unfolded last year, OSU had Bruce Hooley, one of the afternoon guys on 97.1 The Fan, fired for being overly critical of the university (on a related note, Kirk Herbstreit had one of the guys who replaced him fired this year for tweeting he wished Desmond Howard was dead).

There's definite precedent.

Which was a shame. The Torg was a great cohost. He and The Common Man did a great show up here. They were O$U fans but they were honest and funny. They took The Buckeyes to task when needed and were always informative. They were by far the best 3 hour sports show I've ever listened to.
 
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I can't see that tournament every happening for Ohio State. They would only play UC when 1 scholly player is left and a new coach. That's the only reason they played UC in Mick's first year. Screw O$U.
 
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From an Ohio State perspective, it's not about avoiding playing other Ohio schools so much as it's avoiding hurting themselves. Ohio State is uniquely positioned to have a statewide fanbase even if it is bigger in some areas than others. It does not help the Buckeye athletic department if fans in Dayton, Cincinnati, etc get extra reasons to root against the Buckeyes. Maybe in basketball alone it would be fine (Ohio State's support is more centered and less statewide than in football), but it likely would spill over to football too. There are a lot Dayton/Xavier basketball fans who are also Ohio State football fans (I don't think there are as many who would follow both Ohio State and Cincinnati). What OSU doesn't want is for fans of other major Ohio basketball schools to feel Ohio State is rival and start rooting against them in other areas.

Example: I went to the Ohio State/Dayton game in the NIT a few years ago. There were people there with both Ohio State and Dayton gear on. Generally they rooted for both even if they did have a preference. If you turn that kind of game into an annual event, it's a lot harder to root for both. Dayton being good and followed well doesn't hurt Ohio State. Dayton being good and a rival of Ohio State would (if not in basketball, indirectly it would in football)
 
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(12-20-2012 09:00 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  From an Ohio State perspective, it's not about avoiding playing other Ohio schools so much as it's avoiding hurting themselves. Ohio State is uniquely positioned to have a statewide fanbase even if it is bigger in some areas than others. It does not help the Buckeye athletic department if fans in Dayton, Cincinnati, etc get extra reasons to root against the Buckeyes. Maybe in basketball alone it would be fine (Ohio State's support is more centered and less statewide than in football), but it likely would spill over to football too. There are a lot Dayton/Xavier basketball fans who are also Ohio State football fans (I don't think there are as many who would follow both Ohio State and Cincinnati). What OSU doesn't want is for fans of other major Ohio basketball schools to feel Ohio State is rival and start rooting against them in other areas.

Example: I went to the Ohio State/Dayton game in the NIT a few years ago. There were people there with both Ohio State and Dayton gear on. Generally they rooted for both even if they did have a preference. If you turn that kind of game into an annual event, it's a lot harder to root for both. Dayton being good and followed well doesn't hurt Ohio State. Dayton being good and a rival of Ohio State would (if not in basketball, indirectly it would in football)

Is it always necessary for you to come on here and be an tO$U apologist?
 
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(12-20-2012 09:00 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  From an Ohio State perspective, it's not about avoiding playing other Ohio schools so much as it's avoiding hurting themselves. Ohio State is uniquely positioned to have a statewide fanbase even if it is bigger in some areas than others. It does not help the Buckeye athletic department if fans in Dayton, Cincinnati, etc get extra reasons to root against the Buckeyes. Maybe in basketball alone it would be fine (Ohio State's support is more centered and less statewide than in football), but it likely would spill over to football too. There are a lot Dayton/Xavier basketball fans who are also Ohio State football fans (I don't think there are as many who would follow both Ohio State and Cincinnati). What OSU doesn't want is for fans of other major Ohio basketball schools to feel Ohio State is rival and start rooting against them in other areas.

Example: I went to the Ohio State/Dayton game in the NIT a few years ago. There were people there with both Ohio State and Dayton gear on. Generally they rooted for both even if they did have a preference. If you turn that kind of game into an annual event, it's a lot harder to root for both. Dayton being good and followed well doesn't hurt Ohio State. Dayton being good and a rival of Ohio State would (if not in basketball, indirectly it would in football)

This isn't the 1970's boys. I am sorry if Ohio State is afraid to become a rival to another state school. Take a guess what Michigan and Michigan State play each other. Butler, IU, Purdue, and Notre Dame play each other and are rivals. Buckeyes need to man up and me honest with themselves.
 
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RE: Columbus Dispatch: Ohio Tournament Would be Great
(12-20-2012 09:00 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  From an Ohio State perspective, it's not about avoiding playing other Ohio schools so much as it's avoiding hurting themselves. Ohio State is uniquely positioned to have a statewide fanbase even if it is bigger in some areas than others. It does not help the Buckeye athletic department if fans in Dayton, Cincinnati, etc get extra reasons to root against the Buckeyes. Maybe in basketball alone it would be fine (Ohio State's support is more centered and less statewide than in football), but it likely would spill over to football too. There are a lot Dayton/Xavier basketball fans who are also Ohio State football fans (I don't think there are as many who would follow both Ohio State and Cincinnati). What OSU doesn't want is for fans of other major Ohio basketball schools to feel Ohio State is rival and start rooting against them in other areas.

Example: I went to the Ohio State/Dayton game in the NIT a few years ago. There were people there with both Ohio State and Dayton gear on. Generally they rooted for both even if they did have a preference. If you turn that kind of game into an annual event, it's a lot harder to root for both. Dayton being good and followed well doesn't hurt Ohio State. Dayton being good and a rival of Ohio State would (if not in basketball, indirectly it would in football)

This is the kind of flawed reasoning I would expect of an OSU fan. Only Ohio State has this kind of mentality that it can't stoop to play other universities in its own state, including one (UC) with nearly 40,000 students and a basketball history at least as illustrious, if not more so, than O$U's. Indiana doesn't think this way when they play Butler and Notre Dame regularly. Tennessee doesn't think this way when they play Memphis annually. Wisconsin doesn't think this way when they play Marquette annually. Penn State doesn't think this way when they play Temple regularly. Nebraska doesn't think this way when it plays Creighton annually. Has everyone in Columbus flunked Logic 101?
 
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