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Gotta wonder how many of these kids are being "pushed out" due to lack of fit with CTT's schemes... I'm surprised by the amount of JUCO players coming in as well. Perhaps Kempt wants to go somewhere where he's guaranteed to start right away? With Kay getting a 6th year and the quick pickup of the QB out of Tennessee, perhaps he saw too much competition on the roster.

Back on topic - glad to see Blair got another year!
 
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and we keep getting good news...what's wrong? What's going on in the world??? How can UC have THIS much great news?!?!?
 
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(12-18-2012 09:15 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  and we keep getting good news...what's wrong? What's going on in the world??? How can UC have THIS much great news?!?!?

Have you checked UC's conference affiliation lately?
 
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Blair's skill set will actually be a much better fit for what Tubberville likes to do defensively than what Jancek asked of him. When Jancek used Blair as an attacking defender it was something that Blair excelled at. But that didn't happen all the time, and there were games where he was consistently exploited in pass coverage. Delware State comes to mind, as does Miami and Fordham, teams that forced Blair to make plays in the small areas in coverage had some success.

Tubs blitzed WVU into submission, but his defenses are very much in the mold that Jimmy Johnson set. Rush and get pressure with four, cover everyone with tight and aggressive zone principals. Blair is a phenomenal cover 2 middle linebacker, but Jancek didn't ask that of him much. Cover two is the base scheme for Tubs. Blair is on scouts radar now, and he could have a monster season in 2013 with this incoming scheme.
 
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(12-19-2012 01:42 AM)Mopper Wrote:  Blair's skill set will actually be a much better fit for what Tubberville likes to do defensively than what Jancek asked of him. When Jancek used Blair as an attacking defender it was something that Blair excelled at. But that didn't happen all the time, and there were games where he was consistently exploited in pass coverage. Delware State comes to mind, as does Miami and Fordham, teams that forced Blair to make plays in the small areas in coverage had some success.

Tubs blitzed WVU into submission, but his defenses are very much in the mold that Jimmy Johnson set. Rush and get pressure with four, cover everyone with tight and aggressive zone principals. Blair is a phenomenal cover 2 middle linebacker, but Jancek didn't ask that of him much. Cover two is the base scheme for Tubs. Blair is on scouts radar now, and he could have a monster season in 2013 with this incoming scheme.

Mopper, do you think the Cats will have a better year defensively this upcoming year?
 
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I think the back 7 has a chance to be really special. But there are some issues with the front. When Walt went down, the pass rush went down with it. UC did close strong with 8 sacks over the final two weeks, though that was a little misleading; UConn had one of the worst offensive lines in the country and USF had obviously quit on their coach by the time that game rolled around.

I still like Beard, and he really came along towards the end of the year. He has the chance to be a really disruptive force going forward, and Jordan Stepp is serviceable stater. But UC has to press the reset button at end. Mills, Giordano and obviously Walt are gone. Silverberry Mouhon has a ton of potential, but he looked lost and timid at times. When his feel for the game catches up to his unreal athleticism he can be special. But UC will need him to be special next year.
 
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(12-19-2012 03:52 AM)Mopper Wrote:  I think the back 7 has a chance to be really special. But there are some issues with the front. When Walt went down, the pass rush went down with it. UC did close strong with 8 sacks over the final two weeks, though that was a little misleading; UConn had one of the worst offensive lines in the country and USF had obviously quit on their coach by the time that game rolled around.

I still like Beard, and he really came along towards the end of the year. He has the chance to be a really disruptive force going forward, and Jordan Stepp is serviceable stater. But UC has to press the reset button at end. Mills, Giordano and obviously Walt are gone. Silverberry Mouhon has a ton of potential, but he looked lost and timid at times. When his feel for the game catches up to his unreal athleticism he can be special. But UC will need him to be special next year.

Completely fair analysis, but I also believe DL is one of the quickest positions young players can impact. If we can pull in some talented freshmen, I think they will find snaps very soon.
 
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(12-18-2012 05:59 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 05:31 PM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:52 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:44 PM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:32 PM)Nellie Wrote:  From reading his twitter....sounds like their are some people trying to get him to declare for the draft after this season. Let's hope not...Blair and Luc would be awesome at LB next season.

Wouldn't blame him if he left. Lost some time to a knee injury before, iirc. There are no guarantees in the draft or should he stay but he showed himself to be a hell of a play maker this season and if he is rated well enough, i would be more then happy to wish him well in his pursuit of professional footballing endeavors.

Trying to be objective I would think there is more to gain by returning and proving he isn't a one year wonder and that he can be effective in different systems. And not that I've done any research, but I haven't heard anyone talk about him as a likely early round (say R1-3) pick; actually I haven't heard him mentioned anywhere wrt to the draft.

On the other hand, he had a great year and there's probably a lot more room to go down than to go up especially with all new coaches along with the injury risk. Hopefully he gets great advice either way and takes it very seriously. I suspect he will.

BHawk;

The draft stuff hasn't started to surface just yet. Looking at it objectively, i feel that there is a higher element of risk in coming back. New coach, new system, heavy losses on the DL and secondary, and the omnipresent injury risk. if he was in Derek Wolfe's situation, where the defense, as a unit, was able to absorb the scheme for a season and get blooded in, it would be a no brainer. i think he would have trouble replicating his productivity given those circumstances.

Let me be clear, though. i would welcome him back with open arms, should he stay. i'm just not sure, given his situation, that he should if a pro op opens up for him.

Not that I am suggesting I know the "right" answer, but a "pro op" doesn't just open up. He's got to make a decision well before the draft, and (at least realistically) before the Combine assuming he can wrangle an invite. Maybe somebody has the exact timeline details, but the bottom line is that he doesn't get the luxury of seeing what happens in the draft or even what free agent opportunities he might have. In other words, there is no actual "pro op" to pop up much less actually accept before making his decision. The best he has is an educated guess - which is why I said I hope he gets good accurate advice.

With all the usual caveats, I decided to do a quick check on his draft prospects. nfldraftscout.com lists him as the #10 ILB although I'm not sure if that takes underclassmen into account. I think somebody mentioned pass coverage as his major weakness; that probably has a huge relation to his listed 40 speed of 4.86 which is the highest of any ILB in their top 25. It's probably an open question whether he can improve that, and by how much, with another year at UC.

For reference, last year, the 10th ILB drafted (as classsified by the same source), didn't go until late in Round 6; #189 overall.

i'm fresh out of p!ss. congrats Bearhawkeye, you caught me using the English language too loosely.
 
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(12-19-2012 03:52 AM)Mopper Wrote:  I think the back 7 has a chance to be really special. But there are some issues with the front. When Walt went down, the pass rush went down with it. UC did close strong with 8 sacks over the final two weeks, though that was a little misleading; UConn had one of the worst offensive lines in the country and USF had obviously quit on their coach by the time that game rolled around.

I still like Beard, and he really came along towards the end of the year. He has the chance to be a really disruptive force going forward, and Jordan Stepp is serviceable stater. But UC has to press the reset button at end. Mills, Giordano and obviously Walt are gone. Silverberry Mouhon has a ton of potential, but he looked lost and timid at times. When his feel for the game catches up to his unreal athleticism he can be special. But UC will need him to be special next year.

Thanks Mopper. Good news is we just pulled in two JUCO DE's, including one, Hartsfield, who was pretty highly rated by scouting services.
 
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(12-19-2012 10:31 AM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 05:59 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 05:31 PM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:52 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:44 PM)eroc Wrote:  Wouldn't blame him if he left. Lost some time to a knee injury before, iirc. There are no guarantees in the draft or should he stay but he showed himself to be a hell of a play maker this season and if he is rated well enough, i would be more then happy to wish him well in his pursuit of professional footballing endeavors.

Trying to be objective I would think there is more to gain by returning and proving he isn't a one year wonder and that he can be effective in different systems. And not that I've done any research, but I haven't heard anyone talk about him as a likely early round (say R1-3) pick; actually I haven't heard him mentioned anywhere wrt to the draft.

On the other hand, he had a great year and there's probably a lot more room to go down than to go up especially with all new coaches along with the injury risk. Hopefully he gets great advice either way and takes it very seriously. I suspect he will.

BHawk;

The draft stuff hasn't started to surface just yet. Looking at it objectively, i feel that there is a higher element of risk in coming back. New coach, new system, heavy losses on the DL and secondary, and the omnipresent injury risk. if he was in Derek Wolfe's situation, where the defense, as a unit, was able to absorb the scheme for a season and get blooded in, it would be a no brainer. i think he would have trouble replicating his productivity given those circumstances.

Let me be clear, though. i would welcome him back with open arms, should he stay. i'm just not sure, given his situation, that he should if a pro op opens up for him.

Not that I am suggesting I know the "right" answer, but a "pro op" doesn't just open up. He's got to make a decision well before the draft, and (at least realistically) before the Combine assuming he can wrangle an invite. Maybe somebody has the exact timeline details, but the bottom line is that he doesn't get the luxury of seeing what happens in the draft or even what free agent opportunities he might have. In other words, there is no actual "pro op" to pop up much less actually accept before making his decision. The best he has is an educated guess - which is why I said I hope he gets good accurate advice.

With all the usual caveats, I decided to do a quick check on his draft prospects. nfldraftscout.com lists him as the #10 ILB although I'm not sure if that takes underclassmen into account. I think somebody mentioned pass coverage as his major weakness; that probably has a huge relation to his listed 40 speed of 4.86 which is the highest of any ILB in their top 25. It's probably an open question whether he can improve that, and by how much, with another year at UC.

For reference, last year, the 10th ILB drafted (as classsified by the same source), didn't go until late in Round 6; #189 overall.

i'm fresh out of p!ss. congrats Bearhawkeye, you caught me using the English language too loosely.

I wasn't playing a word game with you. My point is these guys need to get the best advice and projections they can and then make a decision assessing the risks, pro's and con's for their situation. FWIW, here's another projection from an SI writer:

Quote:Blair, Drane among Belk Bowl NFL Draft prospects
12/24/12 at 3:16pm by dclark

Bearcats linebacker Greg Blair and safety Deven Drane are two players preparing for the Belk Bowl who SI.com’s Tony Pauline expects will be drafted.

Pauline went bowl by bowl in his feature examining NFL Draft prospects to watch in bowl games. Here’s analysis of his three draft prospects from the Belk Bowl:

Conner Vernon, WR, Duke: Vernon is neither big or fast, but he is incredibly productive and reliable. He plays smart, tough football and always finds a way to make the reception. Vernon has the skills and substance to be a third receiver at the next level and should lend a hand on special teams. 4th Round

Greg Blair, LB, Cincinnati: Blair did not register on the scouting radar at the start of the season but has turned heads after a dominant senior campaign. He ended the year topping the Cincinnati defense in tackles, tackles for loss and was among the leaders in pass defenses. He’s a complete linebacker who plays with infectious intensity and will be a steal on the draft’s final day. 5th Round

Deven Drane, S, Cincinnati: Drane has been a consistent player in the Bearcats secondary the past two seasons. The junior is well-versed in all areas of the game, displaying ball skills in coverage as well as toughness defending the run. 6th Round

If this ends up being the consensus, R5 (or R6 in the case of Drane) probably isn't high enough to come out early for most, but of course every situation is different. On the other hand, as somebody noted in the comments, credibility might be in question as Kelce didn't even rate a mention.
 
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(12-25-2012 05:36 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-19-2012 10:31 AM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 05:59 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 05:31 PM)eroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2012 04:52 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Trying to be objective I would think there is more to gain by returning and proving he isn't a one year wonder and that he can be effective in different systems. And not that I've done any research, but I haven't heard anyone talk about him as a likely early round (say R1-3) pick; actually I haven't heard him mentioned anywhere wrt to the draft.

On the other hand, he had a great year and there's probably a lot more room to go down than to go up especially with all new coaches along with the injury risk. Hopefully he gets great advice either way and takes it very seriously. I suspect he will.

BHawk;

The draft stuff hasn't started to surface just yet. Looking at it objectively, i feel that there is a higher element of risk in coming back. New coach, new system, heavy losses on the DL and secondary, and the omnipresent injury risk. if he was in Derek Wolfe's situation, where the defense, as a unit, was able to absorb the scheme for a season and get blooded in, it would be a no brainer. i think he would have trouble replicating his productivity given those circumstances.

Let me be clear, though. i would welcome him back with open arms, should he stay. i'm just not sure, given his situation, that he should if a pro op opens up for him.

Not that I am suggesting I know the "right" answer, but a "pro op" doesn't just open up. He's got to make a decision well before the draft, and (at least realistically) before the Combine assuming he can wrangle an invite. Maybe somebody has the exact timeline details, but the bottom line is that he doesn't get the luxury of seeing what happens in the draft or even what free agent opportunities he might have. In other words, there is no actual "pro op" to pop up much less actually accept before making his decision. The best he has is an educated guess - which is why I said I hope he gets good accurate advice.

With all the usual caveats, I decided to do a quick check on his draft prospects. nfldraftscout.com lists him as the #10 ILB although I'm not sure if that takes underclassmen into account. I think somebody mentioned pass coverage as his major weakness; that probably has a huge relation to his listed 40 speed of 4.86 which is the highest of any ILB in their top 25. It's probably an open question whether he can improve that, and by how much, with another year at UC.

For reference, last year, the 10th ILB drafted (as classsified by the same source), didn't go until late in Round 6; #189 overall.

i'm fresh out of p!ss. congrats Bearhawkeye, you caught me using the English language too loosely.

I wasn't playing a word game with you. My point is these guys need to get the best advice and projections they can and then make a decision assessing the risks, pro's and con's for their situation. FWIW, here's another projection from an SI writer:

Quote:Blair, Drane among Belk Bowl NFL Draft prospects
12/24/12 at 3:16pm by dclark

Bearcats linebacker Greg Blair and safety Deven Drane are two players preparing for the Belk Bowl who SI.com’s Tony Pauline expects will be drafted.

Pauline went bowl by bowl in his feature examining NFL Draft prospects to watch in bowl games. Here’s analysis of his three draft prospects from the Belk Bowl:

Conner Vernon, WR, Duke: Vernon is neither big or fast, but he is incredibly productive and reliable. He plays smart, tough football and always finds a way to make the reception. Vernon has the skills and substance to be a third receiver at the next level and should lend a hand on special teams. 4th Round

Greg Blair, LB, Cincinnati: Blair did not register on the scouting radar at the start of the season but has turned heads after a dominant senior campaign. He ended the year topping the Cincinnati defense in tackles, tackles for loss and was among the leaders in pass defenses. He’s a complete linebacker who plays with infectious intensity and will be a steal on the draft’s final day. 5th Round

Deven Drane, S, Cincinnati: Drane has been a consistent player in the Bearcats secondary the past two seasons. The junior is well-versed in all areas of the game, displaying ball skills in coverage as well as toughness defending the run. 6th Round

If this ends up being the consensus, R5 (or R6 in the case of Drane) probably isn't high enough to come out early for most, but of course every situation is different. On the other hand, as somebody noted in the comments, credibility might be in question as Kelce didn't even rate a mention.

Not mentioning Kelce doesn't mean anything other than the guy left him out of the conversation....There is still a lot of time left as teams are just getting there boards in order...Things always change right up until draft day as more information becomes available on each potential pick...UC will have another surprise like A. Rob going in the 4th to NYG last year...Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.
Not that this was unique to UC, it just will prove it's self a factor in who the NFL evaluates as worthy talent vs. Jones's, and identified by those players who will go unsigned vs. those who will....Right now Teams are developing their own evaluations vs. the scouting services who have already submitted their's. All teams subscribe. But the final analysis is always done internally. This will be adjusted by pro day workouts/combine, and personal visits. Last year for instance neither John Hughes, or A. Robinson had a national draft grade prior to this period...It's easy to see how confusing, and or misleading the process is...FWIW Tubbs , and the D corrd. Will influence this decision more than anything else....Well see ?
 
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(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie
 
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(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-25-2012 05:36 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  On the other hand, as somebody noted in the comments, credibility might be in question as Kelce didn't even rate a mention.

Not mentioning Kelce doesn't mean anything other than the guy left him out of the conversation.

Of course something could have been lost in translation, but when the article describes itself as being about his three draft prospects from the Belk Bowl and Kelce doesn't merit even a comment, I think it is very fair to question the credibility of his opinion.
 
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(12-26-2012 03:18 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie

Sure no problem...Sean Hooey should have been the starter after returning. Just watch the replays. He will be a guy who signs with a team for sure. Schloemer should have been starting as well.
You will see a definite change in the Oline after this spring.No way it stays intact...Period! The new staff is already telling guys to bulk up.
Malcom Murray had the best camp of all the DB's this year and never saw much of the field except on special teams...And finally Have you watched the play at QB???? Just saying , and agreeing with most of the other people on this board. as far as Meddling is concerned. Whenever Jones was asked about position changes, and or personnel decisions..He always had the same answer "Those are made by the position coaches"..I know for a fact that this was never the case !
There were several agents in the lobby area after the bowl game, and I know for a fact that 3 guys have signed already...2 of which I was told have a really solid chance at making a roster this fall.
 
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(12-26-2012 03:55 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-25-2012 05:36 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  On the other hand, as somebody noted in the comments, credibility might be in question as Kelce didn't even rate a mention.

Not mentioning Kelce doesn't mean anything other than the guy left him out of the conversation.

Of course something could have been lost in translation, but when the article describes itself as being about his three draft prospects from the Belk Bowl and Kelce doesn't merit even a comment, I think it is very fair to question the credibility of his opinion.

Travis is totally going to get drafted ! It's now up to his agent, and how he handles his interviews at the combine as to how far he climbs up the boards til draft day...But he will most likely go up rather than down. But like I said earlier....Things will change a ton before April. It will be fun to see how many Bearcats get taken, and or sign.
 
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If Kelce works out/runs well...I wouldn't be shocked to see him taken in the 3rd rd or so.

People are looking for the next Gronk/Hernandez/Jimmy Graham/ etc.
 
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(12-29-2012 01:03 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 03:18 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie

Sure no problem...Sean Hooey should have been the starter after returning. Just watch the replays. He will be a guy who signs with a team for sure. Schloemer should have been starting as well.
You will see a definite change in the Oline after this spring.No way it stays intact...Period! The new staff is already telling guys to bulk up.
Malcom Murray had the best camp of all the DB's this year and never saw much of the field except on special teams...And finally Have you watched the play at QB???? Just saying , and agreeing with most of the other people on this board. as far as Meddling is concerned. Whenever Jones was asked about position changes, and or personnel decisions..He always had the same answer "Those are made by the position coaches"..I know for a fact that this was never the case !
There were several agents in the lobby area after the bowl game, and I know for a fact that 3 guys have signed already...2 of which I was told have a really solid chance at making a roster this fall.

I though Hooey was a difference maker in 2010. I never understood his fall from grace. I guess I figured that his injury affected his play.
 
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(12-29-2012 01:03 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 03:18 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie

Sure no problem...Sean Hooey should have been the starter after returning. Just watch the replays. He will be a guy who signs with a team for sure. Schloemer should have been starting as well.
You will see a definite change in the Oline after this spring.No way it stays intact...Period! The new staff is already telling guys to bulk up.
Malcom Murray had the best camp of all the DB's this year and never saw much of the field except on special teams...And finally Have you watched the play at QB???? Just saying , and agreeing with most of the other people on this board. as far as Meddling is concerned. Whenever Jones was asked about position changes, and or personnel decisions..He always had the same answer "Those are made by the position coaches"..I know for a fact that this was never the case !
There were several agents in the lobby area after the bowl game, and I know for a fact that 3 guys have signed already...2 of which I was told have a really solid chance at making a roster this fall.

That will be a huge indictment of CBJ's coaching skills, if it happens.
 
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RE: Greg Blair gets another year also!
(12-29-2012 01:03 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 03:18 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie

Sure no problem...Sean Hooey should have been the starter after returning. Just watch the replays. He will be a guy who signs with a team for sure. Schloemer should have been starting as well.
You will see a definite change in the Oline after this spring.No way it stays intact...Period! The new staff is already telling guys to bulk up.
Malcom Murray had the best camp of all the DB's this year and never saw much of the field except on special teams...And finally Have you watched the play at QB???? Just saying , and agreeing with most of the other people on this board. as far as Meddling is concerned. Whenever Jones was asked about position changes, and or personnel decisions..He always had the same answer "Those are made by the position coaches"..I know for a fact that this was never the case !
There were several agents in the lobby area after the bowl game, and I know for a fact that 3 guys have signed already...2 of which I was told have a really solid chance at making a roster this fall.

I'm not sure on Hooey. I agree he is talented, but I disagree that he is better than either of the guys who finished the season starting at LT and RT.

I always wondered why Murray didn't see the field more.
 
12-29-2012 04:00 PM
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RE: Greg Blair gets another year also!
(12-29-2012 04:00 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-29-2012 01:03 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 03:18 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(12-26-2012 02:08 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  Jones did not play the best talent by a long shot !
As well as meddling way to much in position coaches decision making processes.

Care to elaborate about these two points?

We all know about Munchie

Sure no problem...Sean Hooey should have been the starter after returning. Just watch the replays. He will be a guy who signs with a team for sure. Schloemer should have been starting as well.
You will see a definite change in the Oline after this spring.No way it stays intact...Period! The new staff is already telling guys to bulk up.
Malcom Murray had the best camp of all the DB's this year and never saw much of the field except on special teams...And finally Have you watched the play at QB???? Just saying , and agreeing with most of the other people on this board. as far as Meddling is concerned. Whenever Jones was asked about position changes, and or personnel decisions..He always had the same answer "Those are made by the position coaches"..I know for a fact that this was never the case !
There were several agents in the lobby area after the bowl game, and I know for a fact that 3 guys have signed already...2 of which I was told have a really solid chance at making a roster this fall.

I'm not sure on Hooey. I agree he is talented, but I disagree that he is better than either of the guys who finished the season starting at LT and RT.

I always wondered why Murray didn't see the field more.

I totally disagree with Hooey not being better than the other two Tackles...A huge difference. Like I said if you watch the replays of the games it is absolutely unreal the difference in play! Hooey had several knockdown blocks even in the games he did get to play in after returning from injury..Way more physical, and knew the offensive plays better as well. First few games Ehrnger was coming off of the ball & not even touching anyone by virtue of not knowing where to go, or who his assignment was? He got better, but no where near Hooey's ability to lock a guy up and finish..Lefeld was constantly getting bullrushed and put on his rear right up to the Belk Bowl..Guy from Temple/Rutgers blew him off the LOS multiple times ..Watch it! They will both be better, as well as bigger next year, But Lefeld will have to put more weight on bigtime to keep his job. The new staff will want them all over 300lbs. by next fall...Not their fault by any means, but more of a philosophy change. They will not be required to run 8-10 110 yard dashes!
Sounds nuts for an Olineman to have to do that, but that's what Lawson demanded...Hooey was the only one near that size as well as Shloemer, and Cureton. I'll bet those two will be in the mix in a big way come spring! Getting back to the draft Hooey will definitely sign with someone, and has a good chance to get drafted if he can put up some good numbers at his pro day...Bank It !
 
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