(12-14-2012 11:22 AM)HerdZoned Wrote: Why are any of the Western schools going to leave. As of right now SMU, Houston, UCF, Memphis, SDSU, Boisie, Tulane and ECU are homeless. They have no conference to go to, no bowl contracts, no autobid, no TV Network, no TV revenue. The NCAA does not have to grant them a way to form a new conference. Tell me why that would look attractive to anyone...
What are you talking about?
1) the bb schools are leaving the conference
2) Katz reported the NCAA will allow fb schools to have a bb auto bid
3) The TV deal will still be more than the MWC
Yeah, as of right now, I thought we were in CUSA, we're headed to the New Orleans Bowl, CBSSports was our primary carrier (ESPN for the bowl), and we were making the some TV money as every other school in CUSA.
Screw ECWho and the pirate ship they rode in on. I hope ULL destroys you in the New Orleans Bowl.
(12-14-2012 11:22 AM)HerdZoned Wrote: Why are any of the Western schools going to leave. As of right now SMU, Houston, UCF, Memphis, SDSU, Boisie, Tulane and ECU are homeless. They have no conference to go to, no bowl contracts, no autobid, no TV Network, no TV revenue. The NCAA does not have to grant them a way to form a new conference. Tell me why that would look attractive to anyone...
What are you talking about?
1) the bb schools are leaving the conference
2) Katz reported the NCAA will allow fb schools to have a bb auto bid
3) The TV deal will still be more than the MWC
Yeah, as of right now, I thought we were in CUSA, we're headed to the New Orleans Bowl, CBSSports was our primary carrier (ESPN for the bowl), and we were making the some TV money as every other school in CUSA.
Screw ECWho and the pirate ship they rode in on. I hope ULL destroys you in the New Orleans Bowl.
HerdZoned Wrote:
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2012 12:42 PM by PGPirate.)
(12-14-2012 11:39 AM)cyc46 Wrote: I think we are just fine in CUSA ECU Tulane and one of UCF or USF will be back shortly.
i don't think it'll happen, but I'd tell USF to go fly a f'ing kite if they asked to come back in...
Yeah, the notion that anyone will come back to this is a pipe dream. USM needs to get out now if they expect actual humans to show up at MM Roberts. Nobody in CUSA is going to be "just fine " unless "just fine" is defined as "spending $25 million per year to impersonate the Southland Conference. "
And if people thought the numbers that came out a couple of days ago were a nasty surprise for the Big East, just imagine what CUSA's numbers will look like. Some of these teams are still at the point where they're happy just to get on TV at all.
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2012 12:43 PM by AndreWhere.)
ECU, SMU and UH will have to join the CUSA or the MWC, because what's about to happen is the UConn/Cincy schools are going to leave the Big East and if they do, there's nothing left, so you have four/five schools left out to dry...
(12-14-2012 12:45 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote: ECU, SMU and UH will have to join the CUSA or the MWC, because what's about to happen is the UConn/Cincy schools are going to leave the Big East and if they do, there's nothing left, so you have four/five schools left out to dry...
Personally, I aspire to bigger things in life than watching ECU slink back with its tail between its legs.
See, what's funny is after I said this exact thing would happen yesterday I was called an idiot. (New conference, everyone else leaving, ECU, SMU, UH and Tulane left out to dry)
People far overvalue ECU, UH and SMU's name appeal.
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2012 12:59 PM by TheNorthTexan.)
Nope. You have never seen me advocate Marshall to join the Blown up BE, you have never seen me post on the BE board, you have never seen me interact with BE posters. Hell our next basketball game is against Cincy and I haven't went over to their board. Haven't looked or posted on Memphis board since they moved, I used to post there at least once or twice a month.
Not hurt at all, as a matter of fact, just do as the music video says:
(12-14-2012 12:58 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote: See, what's funny is after I said this exact thing would happen yesterday I was called an idiot. (New conference, everyone else leaving, ECU, SMU, UH and Tulane left out to dry)
People far overvalue ECU, UH and SMU's name appeal.
SMU's 1939 NCAA national championship? 'Pert near closer to the era of Indian raids in Texas than present day.
Doak Walker Era: Closing in on close to 70 years ago now for the great "Doaker" who was a class act all the way from all I've read or heard.
The Pony Express: Do great teams with "proven" paid football players count among these conference commish' gurus, too?
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UH: I grew up in the Houston area and was a Coog fan as a youth. I celebrated the day the SWC voted UH in and cursed the day the Big 12 was born. Even as a UNT alum/fan, I was still a fan of the old Southwest Conference and all the state-wide traditions that came with it. Still miss that darn conference today truth be told.
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ECU? What is the state capital of East Carolina? Anyone?
Ok folks, this is all fun, but let's put in a touch of reality. ECU, Southern Miss, Houston, Tulane, and those teams talked about here will start 2013 in the same place as each other when it comes to National Championship chances, ZERO chance even if they win every game. I don't like it, and unless you are in the "chosen" conference (I live close to Arizona State so yeah the local team does have a chance, but my alma mater doesn't) even if USM beats Nebraska, Arkansas, Boise State and all the other games on the schedule, it won't get them there. It is what we can do to get it where we can have a real shot at the NC when we show we should be considered. Meanwhile we can sit and snap at each other like we are accomplishing things, but unless we work together to find a way to be a factor, the gap of the haves and have nots will widen in the FBS.
(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote: Ok folks, this is all fun, but let's put in a touch of reality. ECU, Southern Miss, Houston, Tulane, and those teams talked about here will start 2013 in the same place as each other when it comes to National Championship chances, ZERO chance even if they win every game. I don't like it, and unless you are in the "chosen" conference (I live close to Arizona State so yeah the local team does have a chance, but my alma mater doesn't) even if USM beats Nebraska, Arkansas, Boise State and all the other games on the schedule, it won't get them there. It is what we can do to get it where we can have a real shot at the NC when we show we should be considered. Meanwhile we can sit and snap at each other like we are accomplishing things, but unless we work together to find a way to be a factor, the gap of the haves and have nots will widen in the FBS.
There are goals in life that are less than a NC but more than a CUSA championship. I've always said USM needs to think about how to get to the Sugar Bowl. There is a certain category of self-proclaimed fan who thinks that's heresy, though... just force as many semi-acceptable teams into CUSA as possible, laugh at anyon who tries to get out, and manufacture succes in front of 18,000 ill-informed small thinkers. No thanks. I'd rather listen to LSU on the radio.
So Tulane hasn't had those kind of "crowds"? UAB has been the 2nd best basketball program in C-USA 2.0. NCAA appearances in men's basketball, baseball, and men's soccer (2) in the last two seasons. Not to mention being in a top-50 television market considered one of the best for college football in the country. Academically UAB is right behind the private schools in C-USA.
Overall UAB brings just as much to the table as Tulane. In basketball it's not even close.
Don't get the UAB hatred by some folks.
2012 USM saw such crowds at the Small Rock of Southern Miss. True we don't see them often at USM but then we don't have many losing seasons. UAB is a mystery to me because they play USM like they are champions but most of their games they get beat. Beating a close by foe is fine but you need to hang your season on the season, not a single game.
Gee, thanks. I don't think anybody at UAB has ever had this thought cross their mind. I'll be sure to let Coach McGee know that our crowds would look better if we won more often than not. You sir, may have just solved all of UAB's problems.
(12-14-2012 11:22 AM)HerdZoned Wrote: Why are any of the Western schools going to leave. As of right now SMU, Houston, UCF, Memphis, SDSU, Boisie, Tulane and ECU are homeless. They have no conference to go to, no bowl contracts, no autobid, no TV Network, no TV revenue. The NCAA does not have to grant them a way to form a new conference. Tell me why that would look attractive to anyone...
What are you talking about?
1) the bb schools are leaving the conference
2) Katz reported the NCAA will allow fb schools to have a bb auto bid
3) The TV deal will still be more than the MWC
Yeah, as of right now, I thought we were in CUSA, we're headed to the New Orleans Bowl, CBSSports was our primary carrier (ESPN for the bowl), and we were making the some TV money as every other school in CUSA.
Yep, as of right now, we're full fledged founding members of CUSA currently working through issues.
All the barbs being thrown don't earn a single penny for any of the programs staying or leaving. Not do they earn any posters credibility on a message board despite what they may think.
Rage and rant all any one wants to, but it doesn't change a darned thing regarding what is or isn't going to happen. The truth is that all current CUSA members are going to end up in a healthy place to conduct athletic programs. Some programs and fans will be happier than others depending on expectations, but that's no different than today.
Finally, to adapt the thread title another way: The new CUSA will survive and be fine......
Civility time over......may the chest pumping continue. :)
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2012 03:58 PM by oldtiger.)
Nope. You have never seen me advocate Marshall to join the Blown up BE, you have never seen me post on the BE board, you have never seen me interact with BE posters. Hell our next basketball game is against Cincy and I haven't went over to their board. Haven't looked or posted on Memphis board since they moved, I used to post there at least once or twice a month.
Not hurt at all, as a matter of fact, just do as the music video says:
(12-14-2012 12:45 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote: ECU, SMU and UH will have to join the CUSA or the MWC, because what's about to happen is the UConn/Cincy schools are going to leave the Big East and if they do, there's nothing left, so you have four/five schools left out to dry...
I dont see cincy going anywhere because, well they just arnt attractive or they would have followed uwv or ul. Uconn on the other hand will be in the acc probably before santa climbs his fat ass down the chimney.
There wont be a million per team difference in the tv money between the sun belt and the new and improved conference of the universe
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