(12-10-2012 11:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:56 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  This is a blessing in disguise- if they bail and the fb only schools become full members- BYU/AFA could reconsider- Fresno, UNLV, & New Mexico would definitely join. This is the best thing for the new Big East Schools.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I did not however think about this in regard to AFA and BYU. You might have a good point. At that point...I think a name change might be in order. Any ideas?

METRO

(12-10-2012 11:11 PM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Had they left a long time ago most of the original football schools would still be around. It would have been a football oriented conference with the member schools all with the same goals & interest.

This....and it could have truly been the BIG EAST..not the NSWEast.

(12-10-2012 11:14 PM)FULL_MONTY Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 11:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:56 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  This is a blessing in disguise- if they bail and the fb only schools become full members- BYU/AFA could reconsider- Fresno, UNLV, & New Mexico would definitely join. This is the best thing for the new Big East Schools.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I did not however think about this in regard to AFA and BYU. You might have a good point. At that point...I think a name change might be in order. Any ideas?

METRO

Nah...The second you do that everyone will ***** at ECU for not being Metro enough.

(12-10-2012 11:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  i will miss st johns, georgetown and villanova...the rest, not so much

This. If they choose that course, let them marginalize themselves.

If the divisional format was going to happen anyway, I don't see any more strength being aligned with the Catholics versus bringing in a some combo of either UNLV, Fresno St., New Mexico, BYU, etc, for a 16 team divisional conference, with a true Western division.

Our basketball would be fine (and certain posters around here would stop nagging). We'd get the added bonus of killing off the MWC.

I smell a power play right here...whether or not either side would like to admit it the basketball schools need the football schools and the football schools need the basketball schools to maximize TV revenue.

I suspect this was precipitated by information on the TV contract and the money split. They probably are not happy with their cut and are not happy with brand new football only schools getting considerably more money then they will get out of the deal so now they are bluffing and trying to act like they will blow up the entire deal if they do not get more money.

It will interesting to see how this plays out....I feel sorry for Aresco, it is one dumpster fire after another all of which is probably making it very difficult to get the TV deal done and hurting the value of the contract.

(12-10-2012 11:17 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 11:14 PM)FULL_MONTY Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 11:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:56 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  This is a blessing in disguise- if they bail and the fb only schools become full members- BYU/AFA could reconsider- Fresno, UNLV, & New Mexico would definitely join. This is the best thing for the new Big East Schools.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I did not however think about this in regard to AFA and BYU. You might have a good point. At that point...I think a name change might be in order. Any ideas?

METRO

Nah...The second you do that everyone will ***** at ECU for not being Metro enough.

I think you guys are good



just kidding of course

Just a question...now if a split occurs who gets the exit fees from Louisville & Rutgers...not trying to be a smart alek but just wondering...that is $20 Million minimum between the two schools for nBe Members

Well, now:

Quote:Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel

Big East BB schools meeting in NYC today wasn't secret. Commissioner Mike Aresco was there to answer questions, discuss future.

Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
Big East BB schools meeting in NYC today wasn't secret. Commissioner Mike Aresco was there to answer questions, discuss future.

(12-10-2012 11:23 PM)Maize Wrote:  Just a question...now if a split occurs who gets the exit fees from Louisville & Rutgers...not trying to be a smart alek but just wondering...that is $20 Million minimum between the two schools for nBe Members

Theoretically, if the conference dissolves, the fees go away for anyone who has yet to actually leave the conference. Those who have left, their debt is considered an obligation and the debt would be liquidated and distributed to the dissolving members.

(12-10-2012 11:25 PM)monty Wrote:  Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
Big East BB schools meeting in NYC today wasn't secret. Commissioner Mike Aresco was there to answer questions, discuss future.

Well damn...Don't let the facts get in the way of a Jerseyguy. Sometime I get the feeling that these media types like the chaos and just like to stir things up. Much different tone to it under those circumstances.

(12-10-2012 11:25 PM)monty Wrote:  Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
Big East BB schools meeting in NYC today wasn't secret. Commissioner Mike Aresco was there to answer questions, discuss future.

Aresco knows that football drives the revenue bus.

Jesus guys, they've got no practical plans on where to go from here if they dissolve.

(12-10-2012 11:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:56 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  This is a blessing in disguise- if they bail and the fb only schools become full members- BYU/AFA could reconsider- Fresno, UNLV, & New Mexico would definitely join. This is the best thing for the new Big East Schools.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I did not however think about this in regard to AFA and BYU. You might have a good point. At that point...I think a name change might be in order. Any ideas?

Thanks! Honestly the only thing I can think of is something like the "American Conference".

I don't blame them at all.

They aren't the type of schools to be partnering up with smu ucf and Houston

With nd Pitt & cuse gone they have no attachment to this league beyond uconn

They would pprob make about the same if they started their own new league, and it would be more in line with their values and history

(12-10-2012 11:30 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  I don't blame them at all.

They aren't the type of schools to be partnering up with smu ucf and Houston

What's the difference between partnering with UCF versus USF?

ummmm... NONE

Houston has more built in cred than most. Larry Brown @ SMU is GOD! Get over yourself, d*uche canoe.

(12-10-2012 11:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 11:25 PM)monty Wrote:  Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel
Big East BB schools meeting in NYC today wasn't secret. Commissioner Mike Aresco was there to answer questions, discuss future.

Well damn...Don't let the facts get in the way of a Jerseyguy. Sometime I get the feeling that these media types like the chaos and just like to stir things up. Much different tone to it under those circumstances.

And all this time I thought jerseyguy was legit.

(12-10-2012 11:30 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 11:13 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-10-2012 10:56 PM)SergiofromFresno Wrote:  This is a blessing in disguise- if they bail and the fb only schools become full members- BYU/AFA could reconsider- Fresno, UNLV, & New Mexico would definitely join. This is the best thing for the new Big East Schools.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I did not however think about this in regard to AFA and BYU. You might have a good point. At that point...I think a name change might be in order. Any ideas?

Thanks! Honestly the only thing I can think of is something like the "American Conference".

united states university conference
the usuc

A couple questions - completely serious:

1) If they (the Catholic 7) are intending to leave (and abandon the BigEast BB credits) and they would have the power to just disband the conference entirely (and again - lose the BB credits); then why would they leave instead of disband?

Either way, they lose the BB credits/exit fees etc - but the name of the conference would not go with the all-sports or FB-only schools (most of whom have never played in the BigEast) if they just disband the conference. Besides, if the 7 Catholic schools left, only 3 current BigEast schools would remain (UConn, Cincinnati and USF) with UConn and Cincinnati both rumored to be looking to bail, and only UConn being a pre-BigEast FB 2.0 member. Only those 3 schools would have been in BigEast BB to earn any of those credits, so why leave them to a group of schools that never earned any of them?

2) If a conference disbands, do the conference BB credits revert to the schools that earned them? If they do, that would make me believe that disbanding is the more likely course of action.

3) Do the 7 Catholic schools have to pay exit fees if they leave? Again - this would favor disbanding.