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2016 & 2018 at Pitt, 2017 & 2019 at Penn St. Was originally just a two year series for 2016 & 2017.

won't be long till this is extended 2 more years after this. wouldn't surprise me if a long term deal was set before the first game in 2016

Joe always insisted that they didn't stop playing because of him though? Now he's maggot food six feet under and we are suddenly playing again...

I think we all know why this was extended. We're going to be helping PSU out while it languishes with its sanctions and negative perceptions. Most likely, the assumption is that Pitt will make significant gains in recruiting PA - at PSU's demise - and PSU will want to try to reconnect. No better way to reconnect than to renew a bitter rivalry within the keystone state.

It's very, very unlikely, I could see a scenario where Pitt and Penn State could be season ending again (even under the right circumstances though, I don't see it likely to happen).

No one knows what the divisions will end up looking like, but if the Big Ten ends up putting Ohio State and Michigan together this time and decides it doesn't want to end the year with any crossover games, then 2 teams could have non-conference to end the year. Generally speaking, I don't think the conference would do that, but if you could find a school or two that wanted to do that, it might be a different story. If Penn State wanted to end the year with Pitt, you could either find another school to end the year with an out of conference game or you could rotate the teams that end that way (anyone who doesn't have to have a locked crossover). I think the ACC would go for it as they are already used to ending the year with those type of games, but think the Big Ten would be reluctant ( 1% is better than it's been in a long time though).

(12-07-2012 02:04 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's very, very unlikely, I could see a scenario where Pitt and Penn State could be season ending again (even under the right circumstances though, I don't see it likely to happen).

No one knows what the divisions will end up looking like, but if the Big Ten ends up putting Ohio State and Michigan together this time and decides it doesn't want to end the year with any crossover games, then 2 teams could have non-conference to end the year. Generally speaking, I don't think the conference would do that, but if you could find a school or two that wanted to do that, it might be a different story. If Penn State wanted to end the year with Pitt, you could either find another school to end the year with an out of conference game or you could rotate the teams that end that way (anyone who doesn't have to have a locked crossover). I think the ACC would go for it as they are already used to ending the year with those type of games, but think the Big Ten would be reluctant ( 1% is better than it's been in a long time though).

It seems like the B1G is the only conference where this is a problem. Two SEC/ACC schools end the season and the PAC when USC/Stanford ends with ND.

As a college football fan I am glad to see this happen. I do wish you guys could continue the Backyard Brawl as well.

Everything seems to be a problem for the Big 10. They have goofy rules about things - no night games after a certain date, etc. etc.

(12-07-2012 02:04 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's very, very unlikely, I could see a scenario where Pitt and Penn State could be season ending again (even under the right circumstances though, I don't see it likely to happen).

No one knows what the divisions will end up looking like, but if the Big Ten ends up putting Ohio State and Michigan together this time and decides it doesn't want to end the year with any crossover games, then 2 teams could have non-conference to end the year. Generally speaking, I don't think the conference would do that, but if you could find a school or two that wanted to do that, it might be a different story. If Penn State wanted to end the year with Pitt, you could either find another school to end the year with an out of conference game or you could rotate the teams that end that way (anyone who doesn't have to have a locked crossover). I think the ACC would go for it as they are already used to ending the year with those type of games, but think the Big Ten would be reluctant ( 1% is better than it's been in a long time though).

I'd love to see Pitt-Penn State played annually once more. Its good for college football to see this series even get extended to a 4 game set. I'd be surprised to see it annually again, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it played 4 to 6 years out of 10.

I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs from PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game doesn't merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

(12-08-2012 12:00 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs form PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game does merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

And that right there is why its a rivalry, a very big rivalry that should be played every year.

(12-08-2012 12:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:00 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs form PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game does merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

And that right there is why its a rivalry, a very big rivalry that should be played every year.

Then America is now Penn State's rival.

(12-08-2012 12:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:00 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs form PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game does merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

And that right there is why its a rivalry, a very big rivalry that should be played every year.

I was thinking the same thing. Usually when there is dislike for another school it helps get the rivalry going. Most other states have a game between the top two schools so it might be something to consider. Perhaps the state's governments may do this as a way of getting Pittsburgh to help out PSU. Now wouldn't that be a way to get the rivalry going....

(12-09-2012 11:11 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:00 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs form PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game does merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

And that right there is why its a rivalry, a very big rivalry that should be played every year.

I was thinking the same thing. Usually when there is dislike for another school it helps get the rivalry going. Most other states have a game between the top two schools so it might be something to consider. Perhaps the state's governments may do this as a way of getting Pittsburgh to help out PSU. Now wouldn't that be a way to get the rivalry going....

Exactly. The two schools' fanbases already hate each other as it is. I understand it won't happen annually especially if one or both of the Big Ten and ACC go back to the 9 game conference schedule ideas. But it'd be nice if it was at least played 4 to 6 times out of 10.

We don't need Harrisburg to be involved to get this game to happen on a yearly basis. Pitt has wanted to play PSU on a yearly basis every year since the rivalry ended. I think if that deal were on the table it would be signed tomorrow by the Pitt athletic department.

Also, this is not the place for politics. The fact that state legislatures get involved in this stuff is an embarrassment to the people.

(12-09-2012 11:18 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-09-2012 11:11 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:43 PM)brista21 Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:00 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 11:53 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  I would like to see Pittsburgh and PSU play annually. Why don't the fans lobby the State government to force them to play each other every year. Now is the opportunity to do it as PSU is very weak right now. Sell it as a way of showcasing the state. Once that is done the B1G and ACC will be forced to accomodate the series.

Absolutely not. I'm not even sure it is a good idea to be associated with Tickle Valley High.

Pitt is a privately governed institution. The state has no business putting its nose in there. The legislature is also dominated by PSU grads, and as you can imagine from the scandal, it gets a lot perks and kick backs form PSU in the form of game-day amenities. The state pulls some garbage like that, Pitt will be playing "neutral" site home games in Hershey or Philadelphia. If the game does merit being played on its own, it shouldn't be played. The truth is, the only reason it wasn't played for the last 12 years is now being eaten by worms. That reason alone is why it has reemerged, just as everyone that didn't have their head up JoePed's ass predicted.

And that right there is why its a rivalry, a very big rivalry that should be played every year.

I was thinking the same thing. Usually when there is dislike for another school it helps get the rivalry going. Most other states have a game between the top two schools so it might be something to consider. Perhaps the state's governments may do this as a way of getting Pittsburgh to help out PSU. Now wouldn't that be a way to get the rivalry going....

Exactly. The two schools' fanbases already hate each other as it is. I understand it won't happen annually especially if one or both of the Big Ten and ACC go back to the 9 game conference schedule ideas. But it'd be nice if it was at least played 4 to 6 times out of 10.

I disliked the fan base because they had been, in general, holier-than-thou types who have sanctimoniously trumpeted their "Grand Experiment" and "Success with Honor" for decades. It was the tough to stomach "We are....and you're not culture". People from Central PA, like myself, that weren't assimilated were well aware of how things were done behind the scenes; not that anyone could have imagined the lengths that the coverups and media suppression actually went to. But how their house of cards has fallen, at least for those living outside the cult, has been well documented.

However, I hate the cult because it continues to duck culpability at all costs and to play themselves as the victims, ignoring how the deification of a megalomaniac enabled the systematic institutional cover up 100s, or perhaps 1000s, of child rapes in the name of football. Until you've lived inside the cult, you wouldn't understand how truly twisted it is. Before the scandal, I would have been fine playing them as a rival with the typical, generally goodnatured dislikes that encompasses. Now, it is way beyond that, and I'm not ok with it because I don't want the University of Pittsburgh to be associated with a school that continues to thumb its nose at the attempted rectification of its deeply ingrained issues...such as was demonstrated by it hanging stadium banners alongside historic championship teams in order to celebrate the "heroism" of a then 7-4 team braving such unwarranted calamities as bowl ineligibility. Frankly, Pitt should not be making the statement that all is well, what's done is done, or that things are normal there. They're not.

But I'm likely in the minority and I'm not the athletic director. Most want the game to be played. Me, I am well aware how Penn State University has acted as an institutional partner for the last several decades, not just towards Pitt, but to higher educational institutions throughout the state. At least WVU conducted itself as an honest partner in its athletic relationship with Pitt, and in my opinion, Pitt would be better off valuing that relationship.

How do you top a PACO hate state rant? Answer? You don't.

(12-10-2012 07:45 PM)7fielder Wrote:  How do you top a PACO hate state rant? Answer? You don't.

They're very good and very funny as well. It's a rivalry no doubt.

Flush the Shittany Lions! I have an old game day button of that in script. I'll need to get it out of storage ... lol