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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-06-2012 06:58 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  So we're going from "ACC money" to $60 million a year which still is more than C-USA and the MWC but it's not the home run TV deal some of the nBE fans were telling us.

Don't forget the elimination of contractually mandated BCS bowl bids. They'll have to earn them. For all of their bluster about 'we'll own it most of the time'--not if they (and other leagues) continue to field low-ranked conference champions. Northern Illinois would still have its Orange/BCS Bowl bid under the revised 2014 playoff rules.
12-07-2012 01:32 AM
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-07-2012 01:32 AM)BlazerUnit Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 06:58 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  So we're going from "ACC money" to $60 million a year which still is more than C-USA and the MWC but it's not the home run TV deal some of the nBE fans were telling us.

Don't forget the elimination of contractually mandated BCS bowl bids. They'll have to earn them. For all of their bluster about 'we'll own it most of the time'--not if they (and other leagues) continue to field low-ranked conference champions. Northern Illinois would still have its Orange/BCS Bowl bid under the revised 2014 playoff rules.


That is not necessarily true...The new system is going to factor SOS and that would have hurt NIU this year. There is going to be a selection committee making the decisions on which Conference Champion of the "Group of 5" conferences gets the bid. I am not saying for certain that it would not have been NIU because we do not know the exact model they are going to use for ranking but there is no doubt that NIU's SOS this year would have hurt their chances.
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-07-2012 07:12 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  
(12-07-2012 01:32 AM)BlazerUnit Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 06:58 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  So we're going from "ACC money" to $60 million a year which still is more than C-USA and the MWC but it's not the home run TV deal some of the nBE fans were telling us.

Don't forget the elimination of contractually mandated BCS bowl bids. They'll have to earn them. For all of their bluster about 'we'll own it most of the time'--not if they (and other leagues) continue to field low-ranked conference champions. Northern Illinois would still have its Orange/BCS Bowl bid under the revised 2014 playoff rules.


That is not necessarily true...The new system is going to factor SOS and that would have hurt NIU this year. There is going to be a selection committee making the decisions on which Conference Champion of the "Group of 5" conferences gets the bid. I am not saying for certain that it would not have been NIU because we do not know the exact model they are going to use for ranking but there is no doubt that NIU's SOS this year would have hurt their chances.

no more than the NBE teams would have hurt their champions SOS sure you got Boise but both Kent State and NIU were ranked also. Other than Boise was any other NBE team ranked?
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
New reports $7-8 M per all sports team which is only 6-7 times what cusAA pays. No brainier
12-07-2012 07:52 AM
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-07-2012 07:12 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  
(12-07-2012 01:32 AM)BlazerUnit Wrote:  
(12-06-2012 06:58 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  So we're going from "ACC money" to $60 million a year which still is more than C-USA and the MWC but it's not the home run TV deal some of the nBE fans were telling us.

Don't forget the elimination of contractually mandated BCS bowl bids. They'll have to earn them. For all of their bluster about 'we'll own it most of the time'--not if they (and other leagues) continue to field low-ranked conference champions. Northern Illinois would still have its Orange/BCS Bowl bid under the revised 2014 playoff rules.


That is not necessarily true...The new system is going to factor SOS and that would have hurt NIU this year. There is going to be a selection committee making the decisions on which Conference Champion of the "Group of 5" conferences gets the bid. I am not saying for certain that it would not have been NIU because we do not know the exact model they are going to use for ranking but there is no doubt that NIU's SOS this year would have hurt their chances.

Quote:"Northern Illinois only did what it was told. BCS rules state that if a non-BCS champion finishes in the top 12 it is automatically in. The threshold becomes top 16 if it finishes in front of a BCS-league champion. The Huskies finished ahead of two -- Wisconsin and Louisville.

And if you think this is an anomaly, think again. If this had been 2014, NIU would have been guaranteed a spot in a playoff bowl as the highest-ranked non-BCS champion. There would be no top-12, top-16 standard to meet.

In other words, get used to it."
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...al-with-it
I added the qualifier "low ranked conference champions elsewhere" for a reason.

The Big East's best teams losing OOC/beating up on each other to harm their rankings late 'won't necessarily happen' in 2014, either--but we just witnessed it again in 2012 after seeing it in 2010. IIRC, 2009 Cincinnati was the last Big East team to enter/finish a BCS bowl in the Top 15.
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-06-2012 10:34 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  The Nbe teams can no longer claim that CUSA is "holding them back." They went to the free market unhindered and received their answer.

The have not yet received an answer, just a few reporters best (tainted) guess as to what the answer is going to be.
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
These guys have been spewing these low numbers like clockwork. The numbers haven't even been contracted out or offered, yet, per Aresco. It's business and both CBS and ESPN are throwing out these numbers.
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
Long term C-USA needs to hope the model the Big East has gone with is worth money to networks since they followed it almost to the letter. That's the big issue with hoping it fails. I could understand it if C-USA decided we are going to add teams based on a different formula than what the Big East valued, maybe focusing on schools with proven history, fans in the stands, and not really worrying about what market they are in. However C-USA just went out and aside from La Tech added large market schools with questionable to no on the field accolades. So if the Big East TV deal fails C-USA is screwed to epic levels. Conversely if the Big East surprises and still manages to pull a deal where some of those early rumors/hopes were then that is good for C-USA because it shows the markets only matter plan actually works.
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RE: Dennis Dodd: Big East deal could be worth as little as $60 million per year
(12-07-2012 07:52 AM)bignow Wrote:  New reports $7-8 M per all sports team which is only 6-7 times what cusAA pays. No brainier

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