(12-04-2012 07:49 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:52 AM)eltigre Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:08 AM)TxTiger79 Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:03 AM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote:  Claw,

I think there is a line.

So are you arguing that anyone who breaks into another person's home deserves a bullet in their head?

Is there no subjectivity? Does a 16-year-old looking for pain killers deserve to die for breaking into your house?

So you know that when he is breaking in? Don't have time to ask about their social up bringing or problems. He is trying to let people know who the bad guys are. If you have the time and the police can be called, call them, otherwise defend your home

Well, if hiding does not work out well for you then what? What about if you don't make it to the hiding stage? Someone breaks into a home it is way beyond the "reason to fear for you life" point and said home owner can and SHOULD take every action to protect themselves and their family.

Exactly. You should not own a gun if you would hesitate to use it against someone who invades your home. It can easily be turned against you. And do not think for an instant someone who has the ---- to invade your home would not kill you without a second thought.

Whether they are a young, "soft" criminal or a hardened, done-time-already, badazz thug is not a decision you should spend half a second making; it is, rather, their possibly fatal decision they make when they invade your home and threaten your family.

Spot on. If he is crazy enough to enter your home, he is crazy enough to harm you. If he is old enough to break into your home, he is old enough to suffer the consequences.

Especially if they are looking for painkillers, you can assume they are not in their right mind, to begin with.

Jails are full of teenage murderers.

All I need to think about is that doctor's wife and two daughters in that most heinous of crimes a few years ago. It should be ASSUMED if someone is in your home, they will do all of that to you and more.

And I have been advised by a good friend and martial arts/Marine, in his advice for females, if you are ever attacked physically, and cannot run away immediately, assume they are going to kill you and do everything in your power to not only fight them off, but kill them.

If someone enters my home, they will be dealing with my big and bad dogs first, and if I come home and am not greeted at my door by my big and bad dogs, I do not enter my home.

(12-04-2012 10:34 AM)Friendly John Wrote:  On Halloween night, four kids from Hamilton came by the house accompanied by an adult(they were 13 themselves), no costumes, and baskpacks for treat bags. We were getting ready to go out trick or treating ourselves so I hadn't put a bowl of candy out yet so I walked inside and returned to them with four Tootsie Roll Pops. They said thanks. As they walked away my neighbor and I commented on their age, the backpacks and the one kid's Hamilton High School basketball shirt. This was at like 5 pm(kind of earlt, right). We also talked about how they drove into the neighborhood and parked at the end of the street. My neighbor told me when we returned from trick or treating that those same four kids still accompanied by the adult(may have been Dad, uncle, cousin). He said they hit the bowl on my front porch for the second time and that the "adult" told them to just dump it in. My neighbor spoke up and said hey don't do that. The guy was nice enough to set candy out, don't take it all(it was a lot and the good stuff too). The adult hand motioned to dump it in and the kid with the basketball shirt did just that. They were the only trick or treaters we had all night. There will be no tolerance on my part going forward.

I long ago learned not to open my door to anyone on Halloween, esp. those in masks. Just the Midtown area I live in. What a perfect opportunity for a masked home invasion of unsuspecting homeowners.

I am especially wary of those 20-year-old males who come around 10:30. One Halloween, I had a knock on my door at 11:00. Uh uh. Another year, about 20 years ago, I opened the door to take my garbage out on Halloween night around 11:00, with husband and kids in the house. That time, my dog ran two 20-something males away from my door and up onto my car. Now, THAT was funny, in a way.

It's a sad world we live in and certainly not the city I grew up in in the 1950's and 1960's. But you have to learn to live smart.

And another thing, my family is the same way. Even I DO NOT go around their home unannounced.

Over and out....

(12-04-2012 06:45 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 01:40 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 12:15 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 10:21 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  BANDIT, in reference to your "teen in your house" argument...I assume that any unwanted guest in my house is not there to do anything nice to me. At the point that, I or my wife are home, someone enters our house it becomes a threat to me. I will shoot. There isn't time for me to sort out the "are you here for some pain meds". And CBHS said "shoot at the knees"...if you've ever gone through a permit class you are, normally, taught that if you have to use your weapon that you shoot to kill.

Your not gonna shoot anyone. You rant and raved in the other post about a criminal having rights. Now you say you will shoot to kill. Make up your mind.

Don't try and twist those two situations. I fully will shoot someone. Unlike your twisted mind I will not line up individuals grasping for air and put a gun to their head to make a good clean kill shot. If I shoot them and they die...so be it. If I shoot them and disable them to where they are lying in the floor and I can get to another room to call the cops...so be it. I will not drag their bodies and place them next to each other so I can execute them.

The fact that you can't see the difference in mindset is just twisted.

What a load of crap you hypocrite. You have the nerve to lecture Bandit on your macho crap how you "shoot to kill" Then you complain that criminals are human and deserve compassion and they are not animals. If they deserve compassion, why don't you get rid of the 357, 9mm or whatever you have and shoot the burglar with a 22 short. That will scare them and your compassion will allow them to leave your home.

I haven't twisted anything. Everyone said what that other fella did was wrong, but we all knew why he did it. He was fed up with being a victim and overacted. You complain that he hunted them people like an animal, yet you brag that you shoot to kill. If you shot someone and they were on your floor, alive but barely, would you administer CPR to them? If they made a move to escape, would you shot again or would you open a door and show compassion and allow them to escape?

Take your macho John Wayne story somewhere else. Bragging you shoot to kill? Not hardly. Your too busy worrying about the welfare of the criminal. LOL

I say shoot to kill, don't worry about his feelings, his welfare or showing compassion. That bum is in your house, do whatever you have to do to make sure you get him before he gets you.

I never showed compassion. I said a man was wrong for executing two criminals. And he is/was. And yes I shoot to kill if someone is in my house. But if I hit them and they are laying on the ground I don't think I would drag them, lean them against the wall, and then stick my gun against their head and off them. I think that is where we see different. I wouldn't do CPR....I wouldn't get near them. I'm not worried about their welfare but I sure as hell am not going out of my way to try and off them if they are injured and incapacitated. None of this is hypocritical one bit.

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

Oh we know what a bad ass you are. You would shoot someone and drag them in to the perfect spot for their last shot. You'd walk calmly to their crippled bodies and hold the gun up to their head...probably tell them what scum they were, and then off them.


I'm not saying that you should keep a criminal alive once you've shot them but I sure as hell don't think you should execute them. That is where our difference comes from....but you refuse to see that there is a difference in these scenarios.

(12-04-2012 09:24 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

Oh we know what a bad ass you are. You would shoot someone and drag them in to the perfect spot for their last shot. You'd walk calmly to their crippled bodies and hold the gun up to their head...probably tell them what scum they were, and then off them.


I'm not saying that you should keep a criminal alive once you've shot them but I sure as hell don't think you should execute them. That is where our difference comes from....but you refuse to see that there is a difference in these scenarios.

Come on John Wayne, read my post before you get out your big gun. I said the guy was wrong, but I understood his reasoning. I believe pretty much everyone agreed with that opinion. You seemed so worried about the criminals feelings you failed to read.my post properly. The man took care of business but went overboard. I hope you don't have to get your cap gun out to stop a burglar. You might damage the burglars eardrum when you shoot it. You wouldn't want that.

(12-04-2012 09:24 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

Oh we know what a bad ass you are. You would shoot someone and drag them in to the perfect spot for their last shot. You'd walk calmly to their crippled bodies and hold the gun up to their head...probably tell them what scum they were, and then off them.


I'm not saying that you should keep a criminal alive once you've shot them but I sure as hell don't think you should execute them. That is where our difference comes from....but you refuse to see that there is a difference in these scenarios.

Sorry for the double.

(12-04-2012 09:45 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 09:24 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

Oh we know what a bad ass you are. You would shoot someone and drag them in to the perfect spot for their last shot. You'd walk calmly to their crippled bodies and hold the gun up to their head...probably tell them what scum they were, and then off them.


I'm not saying that you should keep a criminal alive once you've shot them but I sure as hell don't think you should execute them. That is where our difference comes from....but you refuse to see that there is a difference in these scenarios.

Come on John Wayne, read my post before you get out your big gun. I said the guy was wrong, but I understood his reasoning. I believe pretty much everyone agreed with that opinion. You seemed so worried about the criminals feelings you failed to read.my post properly. The man took care of business but went overboard. I hope you don't have to get your cap gun out to stop a burglar. You might damage the burglars eardrum when you shoot it. You wouldn't want that.

Your argument in that thread made it seem very much like you would be ok with the home owner facing no charges. Am I incorrect that is your stance?

And FTR, I agreed with you in that thread. I stated something along the lines of the phrase "play with fire and get burned". The kids played with fire...were burned. But you seemed to have no issue with the guy doing what he did. You almost wanted to make it seem as if it was a necessary deal to kill them. Shooting them...fine. They die...fine. Shooting them to the point that they can't move and then you line them up, stick a gun to their head, and off them...not fine. I think you even said he went to far in several posts. You also said you wanted to donate to his legal fund.

(12-04-2012 12:31 AM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote:  Here's a hypothetical question.

What would you do?

1) A burgler could take all of your possesions, but you would be safe and fine.

2) You could shoot a burgler and have all your c. But the burgler would be dead.

What would you do?

Easy, shoot first...ask questions later. How would you know if it was just your things they were after. And I was also told in fire arms class to shoot to kill. If you don't, they may come back to harm you and your family.

PS: I hope I never have to find out.

Jammamy gone again?

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

Hope you don't have any kids in the house.

(12-05-2012 03:58 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Jammamy gone again?

(12-05-2012 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 03:58 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Jammamy gone again?

BOOM OUTTA HERE!!!!

TigerBandit AND FriendlyJohn BOH? Wow

(12-05-2012 08:24 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:26 PM)Elvis Lives Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 06:57 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Lmao Elvis Lives, taking no prisoners....

Not when you enter my house uninvited. The camaro fella talks tough, but I have my doubts that his actions would follow his words. I have no doubts about my actions. You step in my house, the next sound you will hear is the Velcro holding my pistol on my headboard, followed by lead in your butt. If my first shot don't do the job, the next 3 or 4 will. Camaro will be too busy worrying about the well being of the burglar and offering compassion. Oh well, to each his own.

w

Hope you don't have any kids in the house.

No kids and an awsome safe.from Hidden Safes that makes my pistol nearly impossible to find.

(12-05-2012 10:55 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  TigerBandit AND FriendlyJohn BOH? Wow

I think there may be a connection.